10mm pistols?

Soda Popinski

Are they worth owning vs a 9mm or something else?  I've seen a 1911 10mm that i think looks kind of cool, might be cheaper than owning a .45 ammunition wise but i'm not sure.   Anyone own one?   Opinions?   

Big Battery

.40

PROFINITY

Yep. I have a Sig 10mm. I like it.  I like the round as well the .45. 

mindyabiness

You you say it looks "kind of cool"?
Why don't you wait until you see one that is "totally cool" and buy that one?
Hope this helps
Best of luck in your endeavor....sincerely
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Soda Popinski

looks being secondary to performance, it looks good enough to inquire about.    I like the look of 1911s very much that is the kind of pistol I want.   But not if the caliber doesn't shoot well or the brand is garbage.   I've looked at dozens of 1911 and they all have varying details to them.   

brand is rock island.  I am not familiar with that brand either. 

Saltygatorvet

If you want a 1911 get a .45 acp. 10mm ammo is more expensive and harder to find. Not much better balistics. 

Soda Popinski

Saltygatorvet said:

If you want a 1911 get a .45 acp. 10mm ammo is more expensive and harder to find. Not much better balistics. 

Thanks man that's the info I was looking for

treemanjohn

I have several 10mm and carry a Glock 20 everyday. It's a horse of a cartridge and Buffalo Bore makes some very nasty ammo for it. I use the heavy stuff for hiking. 

10mm offers much higher capacity and better feed control that a 45

Drifting_By

10mm is a fantastic round, especially if you hand load. Factory 10mm tends to be on the weak side but hand loading really brings out the beast in this caliber. And if you already load .40 you can use the same bullets and powders, but 10mm uses large pistol primers.

Someday I would love a 10mm carbine, just not that fugly Hi-Point one!

lilwoody

10mm is the most powerful cartridge for of the standard size auto pistols that has ammo easily available. I personally prefer revolvers for a pistol that is going to deliver over 500 ft/lbs of energy. If I were to get a auto that is in the standard magnum revolver power range I'd go with either 10mm or my first choice would be the 460 Rowland.  I also wouldn't consider either if I did not reload.  

FlatsMatt96

10mm is a bad*** round. So is .45acp. 10mm is incredibly powerful for a handgun round. However it is much harder to find and it is more expensive. It is slowly gaining popularity but IMO it isnt worth getting until ammo is much more widely available. 

Turner River Terror

Remember , A 10 pound every day Carry ends up staying in the Truck most of the time.....just sayin..

Saltygatorvet

Turner River Terror said:

Remember , A 10 pound every day Carry ends up staying in the Truck most of the time.....just sayin..

The op asked about a full size 1911 and 10 mm vs a .45. I’m sure he is aware carry guns are available, but he’s asking about a full size combat or target pistol. No one wants to protect their home or shoot at the range with a .380 or 38...just sayin’

FlatsMatt96

This isnt a 10mm buuut

Saltygatorvet

That looks a little like my freedom arms 454 casull 

Big Battery

I like my Ruger .480

Tarponator

I found the recoil of the 10mm to be too snappy.

Scoutboat

The .45 ACP was proven to be the best man stopper before most if not all of us were born.

Scoutboat

Tarponator said:

I found the recoil of the 10mm to be too snappy.

You don't know snappy.

Tarponator

Perhaps.

But compared to 9mm, 45 cal, 40 cal, 357 Sig, I do.

10mm is snapper than them all, quite similar to 357 sig, another round I don't like.

Was simply too hard for me at least to control shooting rapidly.

What did you mean, Scout?

dave44

Snappier. Or Red Snapper. I thought my wife’s .357 was pretty mild.

pottydoc

Scoutboat said:

The .45 ACP was proven to be the best man stopper before most if not all of us were born.

Actually, no. I’ve seen a number of studies done on it, and the 357 mag is at the top of the list for one stop shots. They don’t include stuff like the Casull, or Smith 500. Probably because very few people have been shot by either. 

Saltygatorvet

Tarponator said:

I found the recoil of the 10mm to be too snappy.

I agree. .45 is more of a push than a snap. And if a few extra rounds makes you feel better, you can get a hi cap 1911 like a para ordinance. Or go to the range and practice. I’ve never felt unprepared with a single stack 1911

johnpowers

Wasn’t the 10mm and .40 originally designed for the FBI and other federal law enforcement?
 But neither one was popular with them?

mara5

You'll love the 10. Ballistically it is slightly above 357 mag. It is considerably more powerful then 45 acp. Underwood, Buffalo Bore, and a few others are easily available on the net. These manufacturers bring out the real potential of the 10. It packs a hellava wallop. Enjoy.

mara5

johnpowers; you are somewhat correct. The 10 has been around for a long time. The FBI began to use it as there main weapon, BUT the females had trouble with recoil, and some of the men. ERGO the .40 was developed and became the FBI's weapon of choice.

Drifting_By

Yes, .40 was developed as a "10mm short" round. It's just a shorter 10mm case that uses a small pistol primer instead of a large pistol primer. 

That's also the reason most factory 10mm rounds are so weak compared to what they could be, when the FBI used it they demanded it be loaded that way to make it more manageable. Then they realized "hey why not just shorten the case so we can use smaller frame pistols" and the .40 S&W was born. But the legacy lives on in weak 10mm factory ammo.

If you want to shoot 10mm it's really worth it to load your own ammo, otherwise you're basically shooting .40 S&W rounds.

Scoutboat

For many years, the 45 ACP was the standard issue cartridge for our military.  For good reason, as displayed in the Philippines.  As we progressed in the NATO alliance, the 9 MM gained popularity, along with the fact that female soldiers could not deal  with the recoil of the .45. ACP.
The .45 ACP remains as the best "man stopper" due to the large frontal area of the bullet, despite its lower velocity.

 

FlatsMatt96

Orange county sheriffs department carries Glocks chambered in .45, at least last time I talked to one it was.

pottydoc

Scoutboat said:

For many years, the 45 ACP was the standard issue cartridge for our military.  For good reason, as displayed in the Philippines.  As we progressed in the NATO alliance, the 9 MM gained popularity, along with the fact that female soldiers could not deal  with the recoil of the .45. ACP.
The .45 ACP remains as the best "man stopper" due to the large frontal area of the bullet, despite its lower velocity.

 

Scout, when the 45 was our military’s side arm, we didn’t have 10mm and .40 cal rounds. And .357’s didn’t come in semi auto. Do a search, there are a number of rounds that are better “one shot stop” other than .45 acp. The .357 is usually the best. However none of them consistently have rach even 50% in stopping someone with a single shot to center mass. So ya need to double tap the bad guy no matter what you’re shooting. The best for one stop shots was a shot gun. No suprise there. Most of the stuff I read didn’t take bullet selection into account. The results could easily change with switching the type of round used. 

stc1993

I read an article a while back about the phlilipinos hand making the .45 pistols.  No serial numbers or no trace.