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What is your choice?

Hello Everyone,
Haven"t been out for 2 weeks and kind of bored.I'm digging for your personal  preference in your choice of bait:
1-live.....be it pinfish,mullet,shrimp,crabs
2-any type of artifical lures,plastics or jigs
3-dead bait
A short reason for choice would be appreciated.          Thanks .....Mike
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  • nicknick Crystal RiverPosts: 4,910 Captain
    1. Shrimp. Everything eats it. 
    2. DOA paddle tail on a 1/8 oz jig. Color? Can’t go wrong with white. Almost everything eats it!
    3. Ladyfish less than an hour old. After 6hrs+ on ice it’s mush and doesn’t hold up. 
  • jadman69jadman69 Posts: 146 Deckhand
    Live Shrimp= Everything inshore and most offshore     Pinfish= Everything offshore some inshore
    Gold spoon (when cloudy)+ gulp new penny= Reds + Trout     X-rap 20, 30, 40= Grouper + Kings + Cobia
    Frozen shrimp or fresh dead + Fresh Ladyfish = Most inshore   Frozen Threadfin, Makerel or Sardines = Offshore
  • ANUMBER1ANUMBER1 Posts: 10,961 AG
    300 yards of monofiliment gill net (sized for the season)
    I am glad to only be a bird hunter with bird dogs...being a shooter or dog handler or whatever other niche exists to separate appears to generate far too much about which to worry.
  • BillyBilly ChassahowitzkaPosts: 2,729 Captain
    edited January 2019 #5
    ANUMBER1 said:
    300 yards of monofiliment gill net (sized for the season)

    I thought you were only allowed 250 yards?

    Billy
    "And the ocean is howling for the things that might have been..."
  • SlackerSlacker Posts: 1,584 Captain
    1  offshore pinfish for gags
         inshore shrimp sheepshead, trout, pinkmouth, mangroves

    2  white gulps for trout

    3  sardines offshore for gags
        squid  offshore for grunts
  • bunkerboy222bunkerboy222 Posts: 68 Deckhand
    dead shrimp seem like a waste of time.Seems like I lose 10 for every 1 fish caught.Most just fall off the hook.Someone told me if they are frozen fresh they stay on better.Is that so?
    Pinfish live(small) work great for just about everything......but do you prefer hooking in the lips,above the eyes or tail.  
    Gold spoons seem to be a favorite I have not fished much with dead baits and have had to spend a lot of time unhooking catfish with dead bait.

    Thanks for the responses.....Lets keep it going            Mike
  • nicknick Crystal RiverPosts: 4,910 Captain
    edited January 2019 #8
    Other than targeting sheepshead when it’s too cold to get live shrimp I’d completely avoid dead shrimp.

    They’re trashfsh magnets. 

    In regards to where to hook pinfish it depends on how you want the baitfish to swim giving the application. I remember Vic Dunaway had a diagram in one of the old FS books. 
  • Jim311Jim311 Posts: 4,956 Captain
    edited January 2019 #9
    I hook pinfish either thru their nostrils or near their buthole. Sometimes thru the top of their back. Frozen shrimp suck, live are way better, cut ladyfish is redfish candy. For artificials I either throw doa jerk shads or mirrolure lil Jon’s.
  • Widespread PanicWidespread Panic Posts: 215 Deckhand
    1- Fiddler crab, fun to catch and everything will eat them.
    2- Mirrodine 14mr/17mr
    3- Crown conch, a pain to fish with but worth the hassle.  
  • ANUMBER1ANUMBER1 Posts: 10,961 AG
    and for the record, unless I am taking kids fishing it;s artifical only for me..
    I am glad to only be a bird hunter with bird dogs...being a shooter or dog handler or whatever other niche exists to separate appears to generate far too much about which to worry.
  • bunkerboy222bunkerboy222 Posts: 68 Deckhand
    So from everyones input fresh shrimp seems like the go to bait and maybe saving the leftovers for chum that is if anchored up.I have never seen or heard of a crown conch but if it is in the mollusk family I know it will work.
    Artificial only seems like a narrow field to me......I am one to believe having a choice can make a difference in a good day and a great day. To me:fishing with only artificials takes more skill than I have......but learn I will.
  • AC ManAC Man Posts: 5,713 Admiral
    Correct me if I'm wrong, nasty frozen shrimp is just that. However to me, live shrimp purchased and placed on a bed of ice works just as good as a frisky one. I tried it both ways. Live well or on ice. Same results. 
  • Gator4LifeGator4Life Gainesville,FlPosts: 576 Officer
    Inshore 
    1- (live) Dead shrimp are for tourists. 😁 Live shrimp only or fresh enough where they're not pink for trout. Small live pinfish will catch some big trout.
    2- (artificial) 10-15 years ago I would say white grub/ pink tail for trout. While that still catches fish white Gulp/ chartreuse tail works better. Why does chartreuse work when no bait looks like that I don't understand but it does.
    3- (dead) Fresh caught mullet for reds. I used to net but found freshly caught bait store mullet does just as good if it is still fresh and not mushy. Fresh caught cut pinfish works good for trout sometimes. 
    Grasshopper
  • ANUMBER1ANUMBER1 Posts: 10,961 AG
    Throw that nasty red back and eat the fresh mullet.
    I am glad to only be a bird hunter with bird dogs...being a shooter or dog handler or whatever other niche exists to separate appears to generate far too much about which to worry.
  • bunkerboy222bunkerboy222 Posts: 68 Deckhand
    Gulp with any type of wiggle tail works good for me. Seems like the bigger trout go for the smaller pins and the smaller trout go for the bigger pins? Never used fresh mullet and I will give it a go.
    I never ate mullet.....the wife loves mullet dip.How long will fresh mullet last before it becomes a crabs dinner?
  • SaltygatorvetSaltygatorvet TallahasseePosts: 4,378 Captain
    ANUMBER1 said:
    and for the record, unless I am taking kids fishing it;s artifical only for me..
    Offshore? Bottom fishing?
    You should have been here yesterday
  • ANUMBER1ANUMBER1 Posts: 10,961 AG
    ANUMBER1 said:
    and for the record, unless I am taking kids fishing it;s artifical only for me..
    Offshore? Bottom fishing?
    inshore, arti and 90% topwater.
    Really don't do offshore anymore, had my fill of 7-10 day trips commercial, mostly just troll plugs, spoons, or large tailed jigs for gags inside of 50'
    I am glad to only be a bird hunter with bird dogs...being a shooter or dog handler or whatever other niche exists to separate appears to generate far too much about which to worry.
  • JonsredfishinJonsredfishin Posts: 1,944 Captain
    If it’s cool enough, I’ll keep my live shrimp in my livewell for 2-3 days instead of initially putting them on ice. They’re nice and frisky in the livewell and will pull around a Cajun thunder or an 1/8th ounce jig head on their own. 
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    Another president put a man in the Lady's bathroom.
  • VertigoVertigo Yankeetown, FLPosts: 617 Officer
    1. Johnson gold spoon for reds, snook, jack 
    2. Rapala skitterwalk for reds, snook, jack
    3. DOA shrimp for trout and everything else.

    I've had just as good results with DOA shrimp as with live shrimp, and they're much easier to keep fresh.  Live bait is for subsistence fishing, kids, and the truly desperate.
  • 4WARD4WARD Cross Creek,FLPosts: 1,676 Captain
    Vertigo said:
      Live bait is for subsistence fishing, kids, and the truly desperate.
    PHOOEY!
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    For they always bring me tears
    I can't forgive the way they rob me
    Of my childhood souvenirs"... John Prine
  • bunkerboy222bunkerboy222 Posts: 68 Deckhand
    Hey Vertigo,which one of your 3 do you use for grouper.Seems like quite a few use live bait for grouper.
    The only thing I can figure is that you are an Accomplished Fisherman and the rest of us are just subsistent peons.
                            just my opinion.                        Mike          
  • ANUMBER1ANUMBER1 Posts: 10,961 AG
    IMO, when using bait on a grouper stop, cut bait first then live.
    I am glad to only be a bird hunter with bird dogs...being a shooter or dog handler or whatever other niche exists to separate appears to generate far too much about which to worry.
  • bunkerboy222bunkerboy222 Posts: 68 Deckhand
    Hey ANumber 1,
    Are you using the dead baits to catch the smaller grouper and get them out of the way,so then use the live bait for the bigger fish.I would hate to use pinfish to catch undersized grouper. Thanks for the insight.
  • Doc StressorDoc Stressor Homosassa, FLPosts: 2,582 Captain
    Cut bait gets it going by attracting a lot of action from smaller fish.  If everybody is fishing live bait, you need to drop the baits right on their heads in order to get them to hit.  I always have at least one guy fishing cut bait ladyfish, mullet, or sardines to keep the bite going when folks are fishing live pinfish. 
  • ANUMBER1ANUMBER1 Posts: 10,961 AG
    Cut bait gets it going by attracting a lot of action from smaller fish.  If everybody is fishing live bait, you need to drop the baits right on their heads in order to get them to hit.  I always have at least one guy fishing cut bait ladyfish, mullet, or sardines to keep the bite going when folks are fishing live pinfish. 
    what Doc said and if you start with live bait and the bite drops off, you won't get them going again with cut bait.
    But you can vice/versa
    I am glad to only be a bird hunter with bird dogs...being a shooter or dog handler or whatever other niche exists to separate appears to generate far too much about which to worry.
  • DownYonderDownYonder SteinhatcheePosts: 7 Greenhorn
    Vertigo said:

    3. DOA shrimp for trout and everything else.

    How do you work them?
  • MRichardsonMRichardson Posts: 10,105 AG
    Hello Everyone,
    Haven"t been out for 2 weeks and kind of bored.I'm digging for your personal  preference in your choice of bait:
    1-live.....be it pinfish,mullet,shrimp,crabs
    2-any type of artifical lures,plastics or jigs
    3-dead bait
    A short reason for choice would be appreciated.          Thanks .....Mike
    2.  I like the challenge, i don't fish for sustenance and it's a lot less hassle.  Not that i don't use bait sometimes, like for crappie or catfish.
    I have never seen live bones, but I know that they are often used by rich people to decorate the interior.
  • livebaitlivebait Posts: 793 Officer
    Don't care what you call me. Use pinfish, live shrimp, finger mullet and fiddlers.Constant casting interferes with my cold ones.
  • HammerheadTedHammerheadTed Posts: 1,256 Officer
    edited February 2019 #30
    What! People fish with bait inshore?  Doesn’t seem fair. If you like to cast and retrieve, a Mirrodine would be #1 choice. About anything you want to catch will hit it, from a Pinfish to a monster Snook. Top water is the most fun, but you are fishing for the most aggressive fish in the pile and as the fishing pressure increases, like it’s doing dramatically right now, there are fewer aggressive fish since they have been eaten by one of the above contributors. Sometime you just end up practicing your ‘walk the dog” retrieve. If you’re more patient, but still like to actively cast and retrieve, but with more finesse, jigs and the various soft plastics mentioned above work great, except that the Puffer’s love them. 
  • 4WARD4WARD Cross Creek,FLPosts: 1,676 Captain
    Catching bait is all part of the experience for me. First light with a castnet, filling the livewell.  I most enjoy freelining and finding the right place and bait and time to make that happen. Just my preference.
    Raising 2 boys that know no different. Try it this way (with a 5 and 6 year old) and get back to me with your thoughts on Patience, Sustenance and Desperation. LOL
    They are 13 and 15 now by the way, they know no different and are awesome fisherman.
    I keep a spook and a mirrodine rigged at all times too.
    "I hate graveyards and old pawn shops
    For they always bring me tears
    I can't forgive the way they rob me
    Of my childhood souvenirs"... John Prine
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