2018/2019 Miami Shrimp Report

Couldnt find a thread on this so I created one myself. Any report on the shrimp run with this cold front coming in? 
If I dont answer my phone call, either Im fishing or riding my motorcycle. -Salty Bike Life

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  • lemaymiamilemaymiami Posts: 3,238 Captain
    Just a bit early for Biscayne... Maybe six weeks...
    Tight Lines
    Bob LeMay
    (954) 435-5666
  • Wra22Wra22 Posts: 147 Deckhand
    Do you guys think the absence of sea grass in north bbay will affect the shrimp?
  • lemaymiamilemaymiami Posts: 3,238 Captain
    Yes — and badly...

    I run night charters every winter and worry about it.
    Tight Lines
    Bob LeMay
    (954) 435-5666
  • eareeyeseeeareeyesee Posts: 36 Greenhorn
    The grass TOTALLY disappeared in less than 2 years time. Practically the entire flats between Tuttle and 79th is a sandbar now.
  • Wra22Wra22 Posts: 147 Deckhand
    The Herald had an asrticle that they want to dredge again for even bigger ships. 
  • lemaymiamilemaymiami Posts: 3,238 Captain
    It’s not dredging that messed up the upper Bay... It’s where they dumped the spoil (the mud and muck they dredged off the bottom) on the north side of the Julia Tuttle Causeway that’s caused the problem.
    Tight Lines
    Bob LeMay
    (954) 435-5666
  • northbiscaynebay1northbiscaynebay1 Posts: 65 Greenhorn
    Remel,  I try not to get involved in controversial topics, but this one is close to my heart. I have been fishing and guiding in North Bay for a long time. I have watched the bay go up and down for the last 60 years. Over 10 years ago our sea grasses started to disappear. It was most noticeable on the west side of the bay especial in the areas of Miami Shores and the **** Club. Both areas that was home to loads of sea trout, snapper, tarpon, snook, jacks, barracudas, ladyfish and more. Today there is 0 grass on the bottom in both of those areas as well as a good part of South Bay. Back then there had been no dredging at the Port of Miami and no muck being placed anywhere in our bays. The only somewhat healthy manatee grass that you will find in our bays is near an ocean inlet including the areas near Government Cut. That I believe is due to clean ocean water flushing these grasses twice a day. The turtle grass flats south of Key Biscayne are as healthy as ever, even with a million pleasure boaters trimming their tops every weekend. The flats south of 79th street and on the south side of the Julia Tulle Causeway are virtually void of grasses. This had started after Wilma and Katrina passed through our neighborhood. Sea trout is one of my targeted species for my inshore clients and we have caught less than a half dozen in the past few weeks. So bad that I have stopped fishing for them. As far as the shrimp runs they often bury themselves in the sand, silt and mud especially during the day so they may be alright. Judging by the size of a normal bait shrimp that you buy at the bait shops I'd say that the shrimp are in trouble. Its been a long time since I have bought shrimp that were of size unless you shell out the cost of hand picked shrimp that are of the size of what we used to get when we ordered 12 dozen shrimp. In today's world you need to use smaller hooks because the shrimp are so tiny. 
    So whats killing the grasses? Read what the scientists are saying. It had nothing to do with dredging or laying tons of clean filtered fill on the bottom near the Julia Tuttle. 
    Capt. Alan Sherman
    GetEm Sportfishing Charters
  • CaptJCaptJ Posts: 763 Officer
    As Thomas Wolfe said, you can never go home. I remember catching grouper from the seawall next to Mike Gordons Restaurant by the 79th st causeway. A friend's dad worked at the radio station on 79th st causeway and we would catch seatrout till our arms fell off behind the station. I ran the bay Monday and saw zero signs of bait or birds (aside from gulls) which does not portend well for the future of North Bisc Bay. The developers (and politicians) have taken over and we will now reap the benefit of their actions. The party's over sad to say.
  • xeniaxenia Posts: 452 Deckhand
    There were always huge schools of bait in the bay this time of year.  Mostly pilchards, but also Spanish sardines.  Catching bait was simply a matter of locating diving pelicans or royal terns and throwing the net.  Many times one throw and the bait well was full.  I so rarely see birds diving on bait in the bay these days.
  • lemaymiamilemaymiami Posts: 3,238 Captain
    Came off the water at 2Am this morning... We weren't looking for shrimp - pretty good thing since we never saw a single shrimp in any docklight or on the approach to a couple of different bridge shadow areas.  The birds that will be working all night long when the shrimp run (whatever it is this year...) were sitting on anything they could find and went hungry last night... When the run finally does get going, even if it's poor, those same birds will be on the down tide side of the bridge feeding all night long -along with the usual ocean run ladyfish, small jacks, etc.

    At least there were a few small tarpon around - we hooked seven but only got two to my skiff last night - all on the fly, using 8 and a 9wt rods... I'll post up a regular report later today with a photo or two...

    Be a hero - take a kid fishing....
    Tight Lines
    Bob LeMay
    (954) 435-5666
  • CaptJCaptJ Posts: 763 Officer
    Getting it done!
  • BibijawaBibijawa Posts: 43 Greenhorn
    Anyone think the shrimp might run this weekend? Full moon and a cold front comming.
  • loligopelailoligopelai Posts: 7 Greenhorn
    Any updates? 
    Fish are food not toys...
  • Flight RiskFlight Risk Posts: 2,474 Captain
    In the late 70's, I lived in South Dade. Used to go 'Shrimping' around the Rickenbacker causeway, Key Biscayne around the Bear Cut bridege and into the ICW near the mouth of the Miami River. We dragged nets behind the boat like a big sock. We'd have good nights (to us) when we'd fill a couple 5 gallon buckets.
    Used to be able to slay Mackerel in the Bay near Matheson... And. I've seen schools of mullet several acres in size with the mullet splashing and gulping air in the south end of the bay. All you needed was a treble hook and you could snag them. The 'Bay' was so alilve! 
    I guess things have changed over the years....  (been in West Palm for 26 years now... )

    Pura Vida!
  • loligopelailoligopelai Posts: 7 Greenhorn
    Thx.
    Anything recently ? Does anyone know if they ran on the December moon?
    Fish are food not toys...
  • CaptJCaptJ Posts: 763 Officer
    The wholesalers aren't getting them yet. Not a good season.
  • xeniaxenia Posts: 452 Deckhand
    They haven't run yet.
  • PoplinFabricationPoplinFabrication Posts: 303 Deckhand
    Heard they started running last night in Miami, go get em! I'm going on a overnight trip in Flamingo and going to see if there is a run out there by shark river as I can't seem to find any good information about it online. Will post a detailed report about the new house boats as well as if there are any shrimp around.
  • loligopelailoligopelai Posts: 7 Greenhorn
    Thx for the updates . Standing by. 
    Fish are food not toys...
  • PoplinFabricationPoplinFabrication Posts: 303 Deckhand
    Went out last night (1/21) to catch the late tide in Miami. We put in at Watson Marine Park which is apparently back open again. I am not sure how long it has been but very happy to see that it is cleaned up.

    I thought we would still have a North wind and started right around the old Herald building but my cheap old fluke style anchor couldn't hold in the chop and wind as it shifted to north east and really picked up through the night. Moved around a little, and even though the shrimp were clearly running due to bird activity and commercial guys, we only got around 1 gallon. Here is what was left after I used a bunch trying to catch the tarpon which were pretty thick chasing shrimp. I'd imagine for the guys who are strictly fishing the tarpon bite would be on fire right now with the outgoing.





    First "shrimp" of the day is below and was a big one! Caught this little lobster hanging around a bridge piling while scouting a different area looking for a break from the wind. 




    Tide didn't really get going until a little after 10 but the area we were in was just so blown out that it was hard to really get them good. The anchor pulling every 30 minutes or so didn't help either. We couldn't get enough scope out with the commercial guys around so I think I'll be buying a new anchor to help in the sandy/grassy bottom.

     I'm sure if we were on the east side of the bay or blind casting nets we could have done pretty well but it was a fun night! Now time to get to posting the report about shrimping in Shark River and the houseboats...
  • evernicevernic Posts: 777 Officer
    I usually drift anyway...found it more productive than anchoring...just sayin'
    2802 Trophy WA, 2x225Merc EFI's...sunk unamed storm 12-09looking for boat #10
  • remel1993remel1993 Posts: 528 Officer
    Nice, thanks for the report. Did you see the guys on the bridge cast netting? 
    If I dont answer my phone call, either Im fishing or riding my motorcycle. -Salty Bike Life
  • PoplinFabricationPoplinFabrication Posts: 303 Deckhand
    Yes we drove by on our way to check out bear cut but that was blown out too, looked like it was packed. 

    As for drifting, we deploy 2-3 lights and shrimp like the guys up in central florida do which requires anchoring. It is more work but when set up right you can really slay them pretty quick. I just choose a bad spot with the conditions we had. 
  • seasport2040seasport2040 Hollywood Posts: 2 Greenhorn
    Building a new 2nd light this weekend. Wind is dying down. Hope the shrimp are still in the area. Conditions look good.
    Anyone know if security is still good at Pelican Harbor Marina?
  • lemaymiamilemaymiami Posts: 3,238 Captain
    Depends on what you mean by "security"... I've been launching and retrieving off of the 79th st ramp for longer than 40 years (and the last 23 years as a full time guide...).  I never want my customers meeting me there since it's just a bit too colorful... I launch there and pick them up down the Bay at another locaton...

    Me, I've only had one problem there - and I was the one who was at least half responsible (some guy standing in front of an empty spot said I couldn't park my trailer there "he was holding it for his buddy"  - and I was foolish enough to contest that...). I should have known better... It ended up in a three on one situation (and one of them had a knife) all on a busy Sunday afternoon.  The street trash (young guys, lots of gold jewelry and a "go-fast" boat..) dumped the blade and accused me of starting the problem when I yelled for nearby cops assistance... Nothing happened to the young men but I did get my trailer lights kicked in that night... Like  I said, I should have known better... 

    At any rate, I come and go there at all hours of the night (and when you come in late at night (or really early in the morning don't be surprised to get stopped and questioned by either City of Miami, Dade county, or believe it or not Border Patrol...),   Just another night in paradise...   Yes the county does have someone monitoring the parking lot all night long - but only intermittently....

    I make a point of never leaving anything in the cab of my truck for anyone to see - and I always chain up my trailer - so take a hint....
    Tight Lines
    Bob LeMay
    (954) 435-5666
  • loligopelailoligopelai Posts: 7 Greenhorn
    Any size to the shrimp? 
    Fish are food not toys...
  • lemaymiamilemaymiami Posts: 3,238 Captain
    Was on the water until about 1Am this morning in the area of Government Cut north to 79th Street... Fishing was slow (we only jumped one tarpon on fly.

    More to the point, we never saw a single shrimp....
    Tight Lines
    Bob LeMay
    (954) 435-5666
  • PoplinFabricationPoplinFabrication Posts: 303 Deckhand
    Saw one report of good shrimping last night, anyone else go out? Most spots we normally go to are where the boat show is going on so a little hesitant to get out and give it a shot.
  • xeniaxenia Posts: 452 Deckhand
    Talked to a wing-netter that went out last night.  They didn't run.
  • Plastered2850Plastered2850 Posts: 1,729 Captain
    A commercial guy i buy from did not get any Sunday.
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