Global cooling

sailfish2

Don't Tell Anyone, But We Just Had Two Years Of Record-Breaking Global Coolingnconvenient Science: NASA data show that global temperatures dropped sharply over the past two years. Not that you'd know it, since that wasn't deemed news. Does that make NASA a global warming denier?

 Writing in Real Clear Markets, Aaron Brown looked at the official NASA global temperature data and noticed something surprising. From February 2016 to February 2018, "global average temperatures dropped by 0.56 degrees Celsius." That, he notes, is the biggest two-year drop in the past century.

"The 2016-2018 Big Chill," he writes, "was composed of two Little Chills, the biggest five month drop ever (February to June 2016) and the fourth biggest (February to June 2017). A similar event from February to June 2018 would bring global average temperatures below the 1980s average."

Isn't this just the sort of man-bites-dog story that the mainstream media always says is newsworthy?

In this case, it didn't warrant any news coverage.

In fact, in the three weeks since Real Clear Markets ran Brown's story, no other news outlet picked up on it. They did, however, find time to report on such things as tourism's impact on climate change, how global warming will generate more hurricanes this year, and threaten fish habitats, and make islands uninhabitable. They wrote about a UN official saying that "our window of time for addressing climate change is closing very quickly."

Reporters even found time to cover a group that says they want to carve President Trump's face into a glacier to prove climate change "is happening."

In other words, the mainstream news covered stories that repeated what climate change advocates have been saying ad nauseam for decades.

more......https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/climate-change-global-warming-earth-cooling-media-bias/

cadman

I just googled this and found several outlets with a story about it. 

Also, NASA isn't denying the Earth is still warming. 

Mister-Jr

A new federal study reports climate change intensifies.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2018/11/23/climate-change-intensifying-economy-impacted-federal-report-finds/2093291002/

mustang190

News Flash
Its Fall and in a couple of weeks it will be winter. 

Resinhead

cadman said:

I just googled this 

No kidding?🤣

cadman

Resinhead said:

cadman said:

I just googled this 

No kidding?🤣

unlike some, I will admit when I google something. 

Resinhead

Wut?

cadman

Resinhead said:

Wut?

Exactly. 

Resinhead

Zactly 

conchydong

The climate goes in cycles, regardless of what the former forum member Cyclist thinks.

cadman

The questions is, how much does man impact those cycles? Scientist seem to feel we do. There seems to be disagreement on how much, but the impact is definitely there. 

Resinhead

Breckinridge will be killer this spring.

Can't wait!

conchydong

cadman said:

The questions is, how much does man impact those cycles? Scientist seem to feel we do. There seems to be disagreement on how much, but the impact is definitely there. 

Of course man impacts the cycles. But with advances in medicine, food supply and no major war, the earths population is growing and people are living longer. Unless population control is put in effect, I don't think there will be any meaningful changes as no one wants to change their lifestyles. If mankind goes the way of the dinosaurs then that is the way it was meant to be. I doubt that will happen though as we can adapt.

mindyabiness

conchydong said:

cadman said:

The questions is, how much does man impact those cycles? Scientist seem to feel we do. There seems to be disagreement on how much, but the impact is definitely there. 

Of course man impacts the cycles. But with advances in medicine, food supply and no major war, the earths population is growing and people are living longer. Unless population control is put in effect, I don't think there will be any meaningful changes as no one wants to change their lifestyles. If mankind goes the way of the dinosaurs then that is the way it was meant to be. I doubt that will happen though as we can adapt.

Not in our lifetime (fingers crossed).....not to worry, let someone else deal with it.

Winning

Resinhead

Mother Earth isn't going anywhere. 

Global warming is a money making fallacy for those exploiting it.

Suckers will inhale the BS and make bank accounts swell.

#AlGore

Gary S

we will all be around until a giant rock falls out of the sky and blacks out the sun for a few years. Like what happened to the dinosaurs.

Gardawg

Our planet has a fever.

It's immune system is working to eliminate the source of the problem.

Which is us.

mustang190

After being through the eye of a cat 5 hurricane, my belief in mans smallness and insignificance was reinforced!
 Anyone who believes that man can “change” the climate is not only naive but also a fool. 

dave44

Gardawg said:

Our planet has a fever.

It's immune system is working to eliminate the source of the problem.

Which is us.

That quote shows how small his thinking really is. 
   Humans have been through countless warming and cooling cycles, and that was without electricity and soft, dry beds.
   Like conchy says, it would take a very big rock, the puny efforts of self ascribed environmental warriors aren’t making any differences, on the contrary, they are probably hurting mankind by their misguided interference in scientific progress.

Mister-Jr

The world is rapidly transitioning toward a future powered by renewable energy. In the last five years alone, global enterprises have invested a stunning $1.5 trillion in building renewable power–generation facilities to help power the global economy while working to mute the impact of climate change. Those investments have added 1 million megawatts (MW) to the worldwide power supply.

https://www.fool.com/investing/2018/10/14/investors-cant-afford-to-miss-this-10-trillion-opp.aspx

Gardawg

dave44 said:

Gardawg said:

Our planet has a fever.

It's immune system is working to eliminate the source of the problem.

Which is us.

   Humans have been through countless warming and cooling cycles, a

And lots of them died as a result.

There has never been a time with this many people on earth. It's like being in a room with one person smoking vs being in a room with 7 people smoking. 
  
The tobacco industry fought warnings against cancer for decades. They remind me of the fossil fuel industry.  And the people who defend them are the type of suckers who fall for a con.



In demographics, the world population is the total number of humans currently living, and was estimated to have reached 7.7 billion people as of November 2018. It took over 200,000 years of human history for the world's population to reach 1 billion; and only 200 years more to reach 7 billion.

dave44

Gardawg said:

dave44 said:

Gardawg said:

Our planet has a fever.

It's immune system is working to eliminate the source of the problem.

Which is us.

   Humans have been through countless warming and cooling cycles, a

And lots of them died as a result.

There has never been a time with this many people on earth. It's like being in a room with one person smoking vs being in a room with 7 people smoking. 
  
The tobacco industry fought warnings against cancer for decades. They remind me of the fossil fuel industry.  And the people who defend them are the type of suckers who fall for a con.



In demographics, the world population is the total number of humans currently living, and was estimated to have reached 7.7 billion people as of November 2018. It took over 200,000 years of human history for the world's population to reach 1 billion; and only 200 years more to reach 7 billion.

This makes me laugh, on one hand you advocate thinning the population and the other you use it as a great evil.

mustang190

1.5 trillion for 1 million megawatts. 
 Your kidding? That’s a deal?

Gardawg

dave44 said:

Gardawg said:

dave44 said:

Gardawg said:

Our planet has a fever.

It's immune system is working to eliminate the source of the problem.

Which is us.

   Humans have been through countless warming and cooling cycles, a

And lots of them died as a result.

There has never been a time with this many people on earth. It's like being in a room with one person smoking vs being in a room with 7 people smoking. 
  
The tobacco industry fought warnings against cancer for decades. They remind me of the fossil fuel industry.  And the people who defend them are the type of suckers who fall for a con.



In demographics, the world population is the total number of humans currently living, and was estimated to have reached 7.7 billion people as of November 2018. It took over 200,000 years of human history for the world's population to reach 1 billion; and only 200 years more to reach 7 billion.

This makes me laugh, on one hand you advocate thinning the population and the other you use it as a great evil.

I did not say it was evil. I said the population was the reason we pollute so much. No evil intent just a matter of numbers.

I did not advocate thinning the population. I advocated for a better solution for our energy needs.

If one does not recognize a problem then one cannot alleviate it.

NewberryJeff

Mister-Jr said:

The world is rapidly transitioning toward a future powered by renewable energy. In the last five years alone, global enterprises have invested a stunning $1.5 trillion in building renewable power–generation facilities to help power the global economy while working to mute the impact of climate change. Those investments have added 1 million megawatts (MW) to the worldwide power supply.

https://www.fool.com/investing/2018/10/14/investors-cant-afford-to-miss-this-10-trillion-opp.aspx

$1.5 trillion and Germany is destroying an ancient forest to meet their increased coal demand.  Surely there is a discrepancy between the promises and the practical outcome.

Tarponator

The author, Aaron Brown, is a former risk manager for hedge funds.  Not exactly the type anyone should be taking direction from on this topic.

That said, he also says these things in his article ( https://www.realclearmarkets.com/articles/2018/04/24/did_you_know_the_greatest_two-year_global_cooling_event_just_took_place_103243.html ):

"None of this argues against global warming."
"Two year cooling cycles, even if they set records, are statistical noise compared to the long-term trend."
"Moreover, the case for global warming does not rely primarily on observed warming; it has models, historical studies and other science behind it. "

For those of you capable of looking at the data and actually thinking, what part of this graph is unclear?

mplspug

For those of you capable of looking at the data and actually thinking, what part of this graph is unclear?

Why they chose a graph where the lines overlap?

HomerSimpson

Tarponator said:

For those of you capable of looking at the data and actually thinking, what part of this graph is unclear?

first, it should be plotted as a temporal plot. 
Second, the temporal plot having only a 140 year sample set is way too small when dealing with earth changes.

Tarponator

What type of temporal plot would you like, Homer?    One like this:



Or would you prefer that we go back to before the thermometer was invented to try to argue that the climate changes and we shouldn't be concerned with this plot at all:

Tarponator

mplspug said:

For those of you capable of looking at the data and actually thinking, what part of this graph is unclear?

Why they chose a graph where the lines overlap?

Because the trend is clear.  As it is in in all the data and representations thereof.

So much so, an article written by a hedge fund guy on a conservative web site who is arguing that a short term cooling trend should be news despite the mountain of science and data to the contrary.

It would be like having your house burned down but whining that the news article left out out that the shed was spared from harm.  OK, but you're missing the big picture.

HomerSimpson

the first one is better.  Except graphs need legends and such.  that one would not have passed middle school science class as posted.  And then you have the sample data set.  You can't say the sample set is adequate because that's when thermometers started to be used.  Climate cycles existed long before man made thermometers.  Anyone who is able to look at data and actually think would understand the fallacy of that graph

The second one you are now changing your measurements.  But....if you want to post it.  As you can see there are cycles on the order of 100,000 year periods.  hence why your 140 year graph is but a speck, noise really.

and with the second one, you see the current cycle started about 2,000 years ago.  Guess now you'll say Christianity is to blame for the current climate change????