Sentinelese Tribe

conchydong

I had never heard about these people until it was reported on the news that they had killed a American Christian mercenary.
It is amazing that in this day in age that there are still isolated human tribes living the same as in the stone ages. Not saying its good or bad, just astonishing to me.

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Mister-Jr

Just leave them alone.

JustDave

Yep, Sadly someone feels the need to "help them" and they are obviously not wanting any help. Not sure how many arrows you need sent your way to figure that out. Not to mention that it is Illegal to do so. Guess the penalty is death for disobeying that law lol. 

tjensen

I don't know how many arrows it was going to take to kill his a**  but I know how many they were going to use!

Resinhead

Now that the MSM is on them they are done. 

dave44

I don’t know how many there are now but I expect they will either breed a new species or breed themselves extinct.
  Good for them either way, the clock keeps ticking.

fins4me

Why is it somehow better for them to allow them to remain centuries behind the rest of humanity?  It is almost like some would have them treated like some endangered chimp species instead of human beings.

Gardawg

They have no immunity to others diseases. 

When outsiders have entered before many of the tribe got sick and died.

That sorta made tourism unpopular.

I'll say one thing that kayaker had some strong beliefs.

He had a waterproof bible. 

Should have had a arrowproof bible.

mindyabiness

Allow them?

How about we just let them be what they are? If they wanted to change they probably would have left the island by now.

Everybody else has.

The missionary took a risk....he's dead.

Its pretty clear they should be left alone.

Maybe they are smarter than you think. Hard for me to believe they haven't encountered humans on a regular basis.

Gardawg

mindyabiness said:

 Hard for me to believe they haven't encountered humans on a regular basis.

It's in the middle of nowhere.  I'm sure they see fishing boats but those guys know to stay off the island.

AC Man

The idiot knew the cconsquensis. Let them be for god's sake.  

cadman

fins4me said:

Why is it somehow better for them to allow them to remain centuries behind the rest of humanity?  It is almost like some would have them treated like some endangered chimp species instead of human beings.

Don't they have the right to live as they wish? They don't want contact with other humans. Why bother them?

mindyabiness

Gardawg said:

mindyabiness said:

 Hard for me to believe they haven't encountered humans on a regular basis.

It's in the middle of nowhere.  I'm sure they see fishing boats but those guys know to stay off the island.

It's 30 miles from Port Blair a city of over 100,00 with an international airport.
Port Blair was established 150 years ago as a British penal colony..
The island is about 20 Miles from the nearest land mass.
There have been plenty of encounters and this is not the first to end badly.

kellercl

I have no sympathy for those who intentionally enter extremely dangerous areas.  

mustang190

Then why does Amazon deliver there?

mindyabiness

kellercl said:

I have no sympathy for those who intentionally enter extremely dangerous areas.  

It was clear from the guys comments that he knew the risks. He really wanted to introduce these people to self hypnosis.....er ah  Jesus Christ.

I'm sure he had the best intentions but.....maybe he should have focused on south side Chicago?

dave44

mindyabiness said:

kellercl said:

I have no sympathy for those who intentionally enter extremely dangerous areas.  

It was clear from the guys comments that he knew the risks. He really wanted to introduce these people to self hypnosis.....er ah  Jesus Christ.

I'm sure he had the best intentions but.....maybe he should have focused on south side Chicago?

Same outcome in south Chicago. Guess he hoped they were less hostile on a remote island.  Nope, just different methods.

Resinhead

They'll either die off or someone will poison their water supply to build waterfront condos.

Especially now with all this media exposure.

dstockwell

AC Man said:

The idiot knew the cconsquensis. Let them be for god's sake.  

Yep lets go preach to a bunch of people who don't understand my language, and I don't understand theirs... DOPEHEAD..

Resinhead

Some people can't help but push their agenda on others.

Hi Cyclist!

Florida Bullfrog

I had heard of them because like many of the animals of costal SE Asia, they sensed the tsunami coming and moved to high ground. Anthropologists study them from the sky and they were able to watch the islanders move ahead of the wave. Just as with the animals, its a mystery as to what mechanism or observations gave the islanders their warning. They may simply have been watching the animals and knew how to interpret their behavior.

As far as the fellow that died, his life was his to risk as he saw fit. I can’t say whether he made the right decision or not. Sometimes a life sacrificed is what’s called for in a circumstance, sometimes it isn’t. 

I do suspect the islanders know more about the outside world than we think. Not details, just vague notions from occational contacts morphed into oral myth. 

I agree that whether they want contact with the outside world is their decision to make. Doesn’t change the fact that they’re of low moral character to the extent they murder people for trespassing. Unless you believe they have diminished moral and mental capacity by virtue of their culture (which I do not believe). Cultural norms are of no excuse. It was a cultural norm in Western cultures to treat people of other races as less than human, and we do not look back and excuse the conduct of those prior generations just becasue they “didn’t know any better.”  So it is with these islanders. They’re murderers. I don’t think its a matter of law. I wouldn’t support any government trying to hold them legally accountable for this guy’s death. Simply as a moral matter, they aren’t cool people. Murder for trespassing isn’t cool. 

Parkerboy

Florida Bullfrog said:

I had heard of them because like many of the animals of costal SE Asia, they sensed the tsunami coming and moved to high ground. Anthropologists study them from the sky and they were able to watch the islanders move ahead of the wave. Just as with the animals, its a mystery as to what mechanism or observations gave the islanders their warning. They may simply have been watching the animals and knew how to interpret their behavior.

As far as the fellow that died, his life was his to risk as he saw fit. I can’t say whether he made the right decision or not. Sometimes a life sacrificed is what’s called for in a circumstance, sometimes it isn’t. 

I do suspect the islanders know more about the outside world than we think. Not details, just vague notions from occational contacts morphed into oral myth. 

I agree that whether they want contact with the outside world is their decision to make. Doesn’t change the fact that they’re of low moral character to the extent they murder people for trespassing. Unless you believe they have diminished moral and mental capacity by virtue of their culture (which I do not believe). Cultural norms are of no excuse. It was a cultural norm in Western cultures to treat people of other races as less than human, and we do not look back and excuse the conduct of those prior generations just becasue they “didn’t know any better.”  So it is with these islanders. They’re murderers. I don’t think its a matter of law. I wouldn’t support any government trying to hold them legally accountable for this guy’s death. Simply as a moral matter, they aren’t cool people. Murder for trespassing isn’t cool. 

Low moral character? You are projecting your values on them? 

dragon bait

They were just standing their ground

JWT

i tend to agree that they know more about us than we think. & they absolutely know enough from past encounters to know that they want nothing to do with the outside world. they are dealing with it the only way they know how. assigning a moral enferiority to them over this is silly. i could make the argument that the moral inferiority is on the rest of civilization for not allowing them to continue with the historic way of life they know. were the native americans morally inferior for trying to protect their lands from the Spanish, English & French? seems they have the "right to bear arms" thing figured out & are not going to let anyone challenge their inalienable rights to self defense..............  rest of the world be damned!!

cadman

Florida Bullfrog said:

I had heard of them because like many of the animals of costal SE Asia, they sensed the tsunami coming and moved to high ground. Anthropologists study them from the sky and they were able to watch the islanders move ahead of the wave. Just as with the animals, its a mystery as to what mechanism or observations gave the islanders their warning. They may simply have been watching the animals and knew how to interpret their behavior.

As far as the fellow that died, his life was his to risk as he saw fit. I can’t say whether he made the right decision or not. Sometimes a life sacrificed is what’s called for in a circumstance, sometimes it isn’t. 

I do suspect the islanders know more about the outside world than we think. Not details, just vague notions from occational contacts morphed into oral myth. 

I agree that whether they want contact with the outside world is their decision to make. Doesn’t change the fact that they’re of low moral character to the extent they murder people for trespassing. Unless you believe they have diminished moral and mental capacity by virtue of their culture (which I do not believe). Cultural norms are of no excuse. It was a cultural norm in Western cultures to treat people of other races as less than human, and we do not look back and excuse the conduct of those prior generations just becasue they “didn’t know any better.”  So it is with these islanders. They’re murderers. I don’t think its a matter of law. I wouldn’t support any government trying to hold them legally accountable for this guy’s death. Simply as a moral matter, they aren’t cool people. Murder for trespassing isn’t cool. 

Does our soldiers not kill invaders to other countries trying to impose their will on the citizens?

Trevfishin

Read an article that outlined some of his journal entries.  He went back three times. The first time he went he came back with arrow injuries. Second time an arrow went into his bible.  Third time he didn’t come back. 
Seems to me he was warned. He also knew there was a high probability of death. 

If you knew that that a person entering your home would/could cause multiple deaths of your family, you’d kill them too. Happens daily State side so I wouldn’t question their morality. It’s called survival. 

There’s a reason why it illegal to access the island.  There’s a reason why the local fishermen stay away, they’ve learned. 

I feel sorry for his family, he died trying to spread the word of Jesus Christ. He’s not the first nor will be the last. 

Florida Bullfrog

Parkerboy said:

Florida Bullfrog said:

I had heard of them because like many of the animals of costal SE Asia, they sensed the tsunami coming and moved to high ground. Anthropologists study them from the sky and they were able to watch the islanders move ahead of the wave. Just as with the animals, its a mystery as to what mechanism or observations gave the islanders their warning. They may simply have been watching the animals and knew how to interpret their behavior.

As far as the fellow that died, his life was his to risk as he saw fit. I can’t say whether he made the right decision or not. Sometimes a life sacrificed is what’s called for in a circumstance, sometimes it isn’t. 

I do suspect the islanders know more about the outside world than we think. Not details, just vague notions from occational contacts morphed into oral myth. 

I agree that whether they want contact with the outside world is their decision to make. Doesn’t change the fact that they’re of low moral character to the extent they murder people for trespassing. Unless you believe they have diminished moral and mental capacity by virtue of their culture (which I do not believe). Cultural norms are of no excuse. It was a cultural norm in Western cultures to treat people of other races as less than human, and we do not look back and excuse the conduct of those prior generations just becasue they “didn’t know any better.”  So it is with these islanders. They’re murderers. I don’t think its a matter of law. I wouldn’t support any government trying to hold them legally accountable for this guy’s death. Simply as a moral matter, they aren’t cool people. Murder for trespassing isn’t cool. 

Low moral character? You are projecting your values on them? 

Yes, as do we all every time we condemn the Germans (who culturally thought it was acceptable to kill people they deemed as racial, social, or political threats to their Reich) and white Southerns (who thought it was culturally ok to enslave blacks). 

Culture or accepted norms of the majority are no excuse. 

If those tribes people are human and have the same mental capacity I do (which the answer to both of those questions is yes, them and I are the same), then they’re subject to the same judgement. 

Florida Bullfrog

cadman said:

Florida Bullfrog said:

I had heard of them because like many of the animals of costal SE Asia, they sensed the tsunami coming and moved to high ground. Anthropologists study them from the sky and they were able to watch the islanders move ahead of the wave. Just as with the animals, its a mystery as to what mechanism or observations gave the islanders their warning. They may simply have been watching the animals and knew how to interpret their behavior.

As far as the fellow that died, his life was his to risk as he saw fit. I can’t say whether he made the right decision or not. Sometimes a life sacrificed is what’s called for in a circumstance, sometimes it isn’t. 

I do suspect the islanders know more about the outside world than we think. Not details, just vague notions from occational contacts morphed into oral myth. 

I agree that whether they want contact with the outside world is their decision to make. Doesn’t change the fact that they’re of low moral character to the extent they murder people for trespassing. Unless you believe they have diminished moral and mental capacity by virtue of their culture (which I do not believe). Cultural norms are of no excuse. It was a cultural norm in Western cultures to treat people of other races as less than human, and we do not look back and excuse the conduct of those prior generations just becasue they “didn’t know any better.”  So it is with these islanders. They’re murderers. I don’t think its a matter of law. I wouldn’t support any government trying to hold them legally accountable for this guy’s death. Simply as a moral matter, they aren’t cool people. Murder for trespassing isn’t cool. 

Does our soldiers not kill invaders to other countries trying to impose their will on the citizens?

You mean, do we shoot people just for running over the border and wanting to tell us about their religion? No, no we don’t. And to the extent that may have ever happened at some point in history, it would be just as wrong. 

Florida Bullfrog

Trevfishin said:

Read an article that outlined some of his journal entries.  He went back three times. The first time he went he came back with arrow injuries. Second time an arrow went into his bible.  Third time he didn’t come back. 
Seems to me he was warned. He also knew there was a high probability of death. 

If you knew that that a person entering your home would/could cause multiple deaths of your family, you’d kill them too. Happens daily State side so I wouldn’t question their morality. It’s called survival. 

There’s a reason why it illegal to access the island.  There’s a reason why the local fishermen stay away, they’ve learned. 

I feel sorry for his family, he died trying to spread the word of Jesus Christ. He’s not the first nor will be the last. 

Its his first close brush or two that has me wondering whether his mind was in the right place or not. He made an effort, they responded with violence, time to move on? In examples of missionary work in the Bible during ancient Roman times, the example given when particular cities responded with violence was to simply shake the dust off one’s clothes and move on, leaving those people to their spiritual fate before God. 

The fellow isn’t my servant to judge though. Either he did the right thing and sacrificed all to do it, or he behaved foolishly and paid with his life. I truely can’t say which. All I can say is murder is still murder. One who murders a fool is still a murderer. 

Mister-Jr

Any grounds for winning a personal injury claim?

cadman

Florida Bullfrog said:

cadman said:

Florida Bullfrog said:

I had heard of them because like many of the animals of costal SE Asia, they sensed the tsunami coming and moved to high ground. Anthropologists study them from the sky and they were able to watch the islanders move ahead of the wave. Just as with the animals, its a mystery as to what mechanism or observations gave the islanders their warning. They may simply have been watching the animals and knew how to interpret their behavior.

As far as the fellow that died, his life was his to risk as he saw fit. I can’t say whether he made the right decision or not. Sometimes a life sacrificed is what’s called for in a circumstance, sometimes it isn’t. 

I do suspect the islanders know more about the outside world than we think. Not details, just vague notions from occational contacts morphed into oral myth. 

I agree that whether they want contact with the outside world is their decision to make. Doesn’t change the fact that they’re of low moral character to the extent they murder people for trespassing. Unless you believe they have diminished moral and mental capacity by virtue of their culture (which I do not believe). Cultural norms are of no excuse. It was a cultural norm in Western cultures to treat people of other races as less than human, and we do not look back and excuse the conduct of those prior generations just becasue they “didn’t know any better.”  So it is with these islanders. They’re murderers. I don’t think its a matter of law. I wouldn’t support any government trying to hold them legally accountable for this guy’s death. Simply as a moral matter, they aren’t cool people. Murder for trespassing isn’t cool. 

Does our soldiers not kill invaders to other countries trying to impose their will on the citizens?

You mean, do we shoot people just for running over the border and wanting to tell us about their religion? No, no we don’t. And to the extent that may have ever happened at some point in history, it would be just as wrong. 

The natives did not know he was trying to tell them about his religion. He was invading their island after he had been warned previously. For all they knew he was there to kill them. There was at least one account of visitors kidnapping members of the tribe and those members dying. 

If someone keeps trying to get inside your house and you can't understand why and you warn him to get away, are you going to just let him in the third time and hope for the best?

I would assume the guy was insane and likely dangerous.