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90 percent of commercial harvested lobster in the Keys goes to China

drgibbydrgibby Posts: 1,762 Captain
From the associated press. According to Ernie Piton, who is with Florida Keys Commercial Fisherman`s Association, about 90 percent of spiny lobster caught by the Keys fleet go to China.

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  • Westwall01Westwall01 Posts: 5,452 Admiral
  • conchydongconchydong Pompano BeachPosts: 10,534 AG
    edited August 2018 #3
    Since the Crawfish boats and fish houses set up live wells and learned how to ship them that has been the norm. Asians prefer live bugs and will pay a big price for them. The big frozen tails seen here are usually Bahamian. That may change also as the Bahamians are also beginning to sell live Crawfish to China. Of course, this will mean the Bahamians will have to adapt their harvesting methods from condos and hooking which kills the bugs to trapping or snaring instead of hooking bugs.

    “Everyone behaves badly--given the chance.”
    ― Ernest Hemingway

  • RareRare Posts: 248 Deckhand
    edited August 2018 #5
  • ANUMBER1ANUMBER1 Posts: 12,401 AG
    drgibby said:
    From the associated press. According to Ernie Piton, who is with Florida Keys Commercial Fisherman`s Association, about 90 percent of spiny lobster caught by the Keys fleet go to China.

    yep it's quite a boon to the local economy in the Keys..
    China is/was willing to pay a big price for a quality product but now they are tapping into the South American lobster fishery and the Maine/Canadian lobsta fishery also..

    Before China became a big player in Fl lobster market the bulk of Fl lobster was exported to Europe and had been for decades
    So, what's your point?
    I am glad to only be a bird hunter with bird dogs...being a shooter or dog handler or whatever other niche exists to separate appears to generate far too much about which to worry.
  • drgibbydrgibby Posts: 1,762 Captain
    My point.
    So much for the concept that the commercial harvest of a public resource is to provide said resource to the public that doesn`t have access to the resource.
    Unless of course there has been a large trend of Americans buying second homes in China............
  • Tariffs are gonna knock this business into the gutter.
  • ANUMBER1ANUMBER1 Posts: 12,401 AG
    Tariffs are gonna knock this business into the gutter.
    yes it is.
    I am glad to only be a bird hunter with bird dogs...being a shooter or dog handler or whatever other niche exists to separate appears to generate far too much about which to worry.
  • ANUMBER1ANUMBER1 Posts: 12,401 AG
    drgibby said:
    My point.
    So much for the concept that the commercial harvest of a public resource is to provide said resource to the public that doesn`t have access to the resource.
    Unless of course there has been a large trend of Americans buying second homes in China............
    cherry pick much?
    probably 75% (if not more) of stone crab claws are sold in the eastern US with the bulk of that in Fl.
    I am glad to only be a bird hunter with bird dogs...being a shooter or dog handler or whatever other niche exists to separate appears to generate far too much about which to worry.
  • drgibbydrgibby Posts: 1,762 Captain
    ANUMBER1 said:
    drgibby said:
    My point.
    So much for the concept that the commercial harvest of a public resource is to provide said resource to the public that doesn`t have access to the resource.
    Unless of course there has been a large trend of Americans buying second homes in China............
    cherry pick much?
    Everytime!
     Especially if I see one that is rotting 

  • surfmansurfman WC FLPosts: 6,008 Admiral
    edited August 2018 #12
    How much of the seafood we eat is imported?

    These guys are in business to make money, not to feed anyone.
    Tight Lines, Steve
    My posts are my opinion only.

    Be thankful we're not getting all the government we're paying for.  Will Rogers
  • ANUMBER1ANUMBER1 Posts: 12,401 AG
    surfman said:
    How much of the seafood we eat is imported?

    These guys are in business to make money, not to feed anyone.
    Everyone in business (no matter what business) tries to make money.
    That's the point...
    I am glad to only be a bird hunter with bird dogs...being a shooter or dog handler or whatever other niche exists to separate appears to generate far too much about which to worry.
  • ANUMBER1ANUMBER1 Posts: 12,401 AG
    edited August 2018 #14
    drgibby said:
    ANUMBER1 said:
    drgibby said:
    My point.
    So much for the concept that the commercial harvest of a public resource is to provide said resource to the public that doesn`t have access to the resource.
    Unless of course there has been a large trend of Americans buying second homes in China............
    cherry pick much?
    Everytime!
     Especially if I see one that is rotting 

    you're either trolling or just an all around a s shole.

    I'm gonna go with a s shole..
    I am glad to only be a bird hunter with bird dogs...being a shooter or dog handler or whatever other niche exists to separate appears to generate far too much about which to worry.
  • ANUMBER1ANUMBER1 Posts: 12,401 AG
    surfman said:
    How much of the seafood we eat is imported?


    I'm sure you can google it...

    While your at it google the 17 billion dollar economic impact that commercial fishing had on the State of Fl last year..

    Rec fishing made it to 7.6 billion, quite a difference..
    I am glad to only be a bird hunter with bird dogs...being a shooter or dog handler or whatever other niche exists to separate appears to generate far too much about which to worry.
  • drgibbydrgibby Posts: 1,762 Captain
    ANUMBER1 said:
    drgibby said:
    ANUMBER1 said:
    drgibby said:
    My point.
    So much for the concept that the commercial harvest of a public resource is to provide said resource to the public that doesn`t have access to the resource.
    Unless of course there has been a large trend of Americans buying second homes in China............
    cherry pick much?
    Everytime!
     Especially if I see one that is rotting 

    you're either trolling or just an all around a s shole.

    I'm gonna go with a s shole..
    ANUMBER1 said:
    drgibby said:
    ANUMBER1 said:
    drgibby said:
    My point.
    So much for the concept that the commercial harvest of a public resource is to provide said resource to the public that doesn`t have access to the resource.
    Unless of course there has been a large trend of Americans buying second homes in China............
    cherry pick much?
    Everytime!
     Especially if I see one that is rotting 

    you're either trolling or just an all around a s shole.

    I'm gonna go with a s shole..

    ANUMBER1 said:
    drgibby said:
    ANUMBER1 said:
    drgibby said:
    My point.
    So much for the concept that the commercial harvest of a public resource is to provide said resource to the public that doesn`t have access to the resource.
    Unless of course there has been a large trend of Americans buying second homes in China............
    cherry pick much?
    Everytime!
     Especially if I see one that is rotting 

    you're either trolling or just an all around a s shole.

    I'm gonna go with a s shole..

    I only troll when I am offshore!

    You have already resorted to name calling, I guess I must have struck a nerve.

    I certainly understand free enterprise and what it takes to run a business and make a profit. My issue is when a few profit from a public resource at the expense of many. I am ok that  there are folks making fat cash sending bugs to china.  But at the same time, I am not allowed to have a lobster trap off my dock in the keys. Now that is F`ed up!  

  • conchydongconchydong Pompano BeachPosts: 10,534 AG
    drgibby, Stay up at night and use a baited hoop net off of your dock. EZ PZ if you have some current to allow the scent to spread.
    I used to have a trap and dive license but got phased out as a part timer. I still wish the FWC would allow condos but they don't and probably never will because of a stronger lobby by the trappers. That is life and while the Chinese market opened up a more profitable fishery, Hurricanes and natural cycles still make it a tough life for most Crawfishermen. 
    They have to turn to other fisheries in the off season to survive from Yellowtailing and Stone crabbing to even hooking sponge. BTW, many start pulling traps out when the first cold fronts start arriving as the lost traps to profit ratio increases.
    I never hear anyone complaining that the Giant Bluefins are shipped to Japan. Most Americans will not pay the price for quality seafood and would rather eat Catfish from a pond in Asia then spend the dollars. Just a fact.

    “Everyone behaves badly--given the chance.”
    ― Ernest Hemingway

  • surfmansurfman WC FLPosts: 6,008 Admiral
    edited August 2018 #18

    I never hear anyone complaining that the Giant Bluefins are shipped to Japan. Most Americans will not pay the price for quality seafood and would rather eat Catfish from a pond in Asia then spend the dollars. Just a fact.
    That was my point, oh well.

    Heck I think we turned 7.6 billion in Steinhatchee last week end of scallop season. :smile:
    Tight Lines, Steve
    My posts are my opinion only.

    Be thankful we're not getting all the government we're paying for.  Will Rogers
  • ANUMBER1ANUMBER1 Posts: 12,401 AG
    surfman said:

    I never hear anyone complaining that the Giant Bluefins are shipped to Japan. Most Americans will not pay the price for quality seafood and would rather eat Catfish from a pond in Asia then spend the dollars. Just a fact.
    That was my point, oh well.

    Heck I think we turned 7.6 billion in Steinhatchee last week end of scallop season. :smile:
    Only time Steinhatchee turned 7.6 billion is when I rolled into town.
    I am glad to only be a bird hunter with bird dogs...being a shooter or dog handler or whatever other niche exists to separate appears to generate far too much about which to worry.
  • ANUMBER1ANUMBER1 Posts: 12,401 AG
    drgibby said:

    I only troll when I am offshore!

    You have already resorted to name calling, I guess I must have struck a nerve.

    I certainly understand free enterprise and what it takes to run a business and make a profit. My issue is when a few profit from a public resource at the expense of many. I am ok that  there are folks making fat cash sending bugs to china.  But at the same time, I am not allowed to have a lobster trap off my dock in the keys. Now that is F`ed up!  

    yes you did, I usually don't lose my cool or get to b u t t hurt from internet banter .


    I am glad to only be a bird hunter with bird dogs...being a shooter or dog handler or whatever other niche exists to separate appears to generate far too much about which to worry.
  • ANUMBER1ANUMBER1 Posts: 12,401 AG
    drgibby said:
    ANUMBER1 said:
    drgibby said:
    ANUMBER1 said:
    drgibby said:
    My point.
    So much for the concept that the commercial harvest of a public resource is to provide said resource to the public that doesn`t have access to the resource.
    Unless of course there has been a large trend of Americans buying second homes in China............
    cherry pick much?
    Everytime!
     Especially if I see one that is rotting 

    you're either trolling or just an all around a s shole.

    I'm gonna go with a s shole..
    ANUMBER1 said:
    drgibby said:
    ANUMBER1 said:
    drgibby said:
    My point.
    So much for the concept that the commercial harvest of a public resource is to provide said resource to the public that doesn`t have access to the resource.
    Unless of course there has been a large trend of Americans buying second homes in China............
    cherry pick much?
    Everytime!
     Especially if I see one that is rotting 

    you're either trolling or just an all around a s shole.

    I'm gonna go with a s shole..

    ANUMBER1 said:
    drgibby said:
    ANUMBER1 said:
    drgibby said:
    My point.
    So much for the concept that the commercial harvest of a public resource is to provide said resource to the public that doesn`t have access to the resource.
    Unless of course there has been a large trend of Americans buying second homes in China............
    cherry pick much?
    Everytime!
     Especially if I see one that is rotting 

    you're either trolling or just an all around a s shole.

    I'm gonna go with a s shole..

    I only troll when I am offshore!

    You have already resorted to name calling, I guess I must have struck a nerve.

    I certainly understand free enterprise and what it takes to run a business and make a profit. My issue is when a few profit from a public resource at the expense of many. I am ok that  there are folks making fat cash sending bugs to china.  But at the same time, I am not allowed to have a lobster trap off my dock in the keys. Now that is F`ed up!  

    I know of two new boat builds of 500k each and a half a dozen repowers at 100k + just off spiny lobster.
    That's just what I know of...

    MAGA..
    I am glad to only be a bird hunter with bird dogs...being a shooter or dog handler or whatever other niche exists to separate appears to generate far too much about which to worry.
  • stc1993stc1993 Albany, GA Carrabelle, FLPosts: 9,083 Admiral
    ANUMBER1,  the Chinese have overtaken the pecans in Albany too. Driving up prices for the growers.
  • ANUMBER1ANUMBER1 Posts: 12,401 AG
    stc1993 said:
    ANUMBER1,  the Chinese have overtaken the pecans in Albany too. Driving up prices for the growers.
    were you up there in the late 70's when the Arabs (supposedly) bought a pile of farms and planted corn with center pivot irrigation systems, least that was the story going around back then
    I am glad to only be a bird hunter with bird dogs...being a shooter or dog handler or whatever other niche exists to separate appears to generate far too much about which to worry.
  • dragon baitdragon bait Posts: 10,042 AG
    ANUMBER1 said:
    surfman said:
    How much of the seafood we eat is imported?


    I'm sure you can google it...

    While your at it google the 17 billion dollar economic impact that commercial fishing had on the State of Fl last year..

    Rec fishing made it to 7.6 billion, quite a difference..
    • Florida's commercial fisheries generate $17.7 billion of sales, $3.3 billion of income, and $5.9 billion of value added and support 92,858 jobs, including imports. Without imports, they generate $1 billion of sales, $262 million of income, and $400 million of value added. - Department of Commerce's Fisheries Economics of the United States 2015 External Website
  • CyclistCyclist Posts: 23,340 AG
    edited August 2018 #25
    So Florida has a great commercial fishery and always pretty much has had one...how come there isn't a decent restaurant on ANY Florida coast whose serves a decent local catch......as opposed to tilapia or cod?

    :)
  • spanglerspangler daBurgPosts: 2,738 Captain
    Cyclist said:
    ...how come there isn't a decent restaurant on ANY Florida coast whose serves a decent local catch......as opposed to tilapia or cod?

    :)
    uhhh... serious? : confused
    you been missing out kid
    There will never be a really free and enlightened state until the state comes to recognize the individual as a higher and independent power, from which all its own power and authority are derived.
  • ANUMBER1ANUMBER1 Posts: 12,401 AG
    Cyclist said:
    So Florida has a great commercial fishery and always pretty much has had one...how come there isn't a decent restaurant on ANY Florida coast whose serves a decent local catch......as opposed to tilapia or cod?

    :)
    maybe you ought to put that bong down and drive over to Crystal River..
    I am glad to only be a bird hunter with bird dogs...being a shooter or dog handler or whatever other niche exists to separate appears to generate far too much about which to worry.
  • ANUMBER1ANUMBER1 Posts: 12,401 AG
    North west seafood in Gainesville buys a lot of reef fish off the boats in yankeetown?
    I am glad to only be a bird hunter with bird dogs...being a shooter or dog handler or whatever other niche exists to separate appears to generate far too much about which to worry.
  • ANUMBER1ANUMBER1 Posts: 12,401 AG
    BTW, pic is the Crab Plant.
    I am glad to only be a bird hunter with bird dogs...being a shooter or dog handler or whatever other niche exists to separate appears to generate far too much about which to worry.
  • ANUMBER1ANUMBER1 Posts: 12,401 AG
    ANUMBER1 said:
    surfman said:
    How much of the seafood we eat is imported?


    I'm sure you can google it...

    While your at it google the 17 billion dollar economic impact that commercial fishing had on the State of Fl last year..

    Rec fishing made it to 7.6 billion, quite a difference..
    • Florida's commercial fisheries generate $17.7 billion of sales, $3.3 billion of income, and $5.9 billion of value added and support 92,858 jobs, including imports. Without imports, they generate $1 billion of sales, $262 million of income, and $400 million of value added. - Department of Commerce's Fisheries Economics of the United States 2015 External Website
    Cyclist said:
    So Florida has a great commercial fishery and always pretty much has had one...how come there isn't a decent restaurant on ANY Florida coast whose serves a decent local catch......as opposed to tilapia or cod?

    :)
    Dixie Seafood?
    I am glad to only be a bird hunter with bird dogs...being a shooter or dog handler or whatever other niche exists to separate appears to generate far too much about which to worry.
  • Grady-ladyGrady-lady east of the river, west of the woodsPosts: 5,282 Admiral
    ANUMBER1 said:

    maybe you ought to put that bong down and drive over to Crystal River..
    I know that place!  :)  The only place we buy fish and other seafood from.  Smoked mullet dip is about as good as mine (the litmus test), imho. 

    Favorite way (next to frying lol) of cooking fish - whole on the grill. I think this is a scamp.



    The potato salad is awesome too!



    Red royals on the grill. (Royal Reds?)

    Sorry folks, I know this is conservation - but buying Florida seafood from a local provider, much of it sourced locally is a good investment in conservation.  I prefer to catch my own, of course, but sometimes circumstances interfere with that.  Btw, during our offshore fishing days we eventually got the cost of grouper and mahi down to the bargain price of $200 or so per pound.  Lobsters were a little cheaper - 50 bucks or so apiece. (based on the cumulative expenses of having a boat, hauling a boat, lodging, other fishing related expenses, etc)



    I find my peace out on the sand...Beside the sea, not beyond or behind. R.A. Britt

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