Federal court says open-carry is a Constitutionally protected right.

Big Battery

Moving in the right direction...

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/jul/24/americans-have-constitutional-right-carry-guns-pub/

ferris1248

This will eventually reach The Supreme Court. Once there, I believe it will be sustained.

Cyclist

Open carry is a Catch-22. Kinda makes sense on paper, to protect yourself and all that blah blah, etc., but when you actually do it, open carry, you are endangering yourself and those around you and no longer benefit from perceived safety...in fact...open carry people may very well be mentally ill.

treemanjohn

Cyclist said:

Open carry is a Catch-22. Kinda makes sense on paper, to protect yourself and all that blah blah, etc., but when you actually do it, open carry, you are endangering yourself and those around you and no longer benefit from perceived safety...in fact...open carry people may very well be mentally ill.

Big Battery

Cyclist said:

Open carry is a Catch-22. Kinda makes sense on paper, to protect yourself and all that blah blah, etc., but when you actually do it, open carry, you are endangering yourself and those around you and no longer benefit from perceived safety...in fact...open carry people may very well be mentally ill.

I could make the same argument of people who vote for people like Hillary Clinton...  but on a more rational note, I think open carry is foolish as it makes you the target for the first person to shoot.

treemanjohn

Finally judges get it right. Now we should have constitutional carry and eliminate all fees and licenses for permits. You should not have to pay to exercise your constitutional right

NACl H2O Luvr

Cyclist said:

...but when you actually do it, open carry, you are endangering yourself and those around you...

Do you have any reliable non-partisan sources/statistics to back up this claim, or are we going with baseless emotional drivel on this one?

treemanjohn

NACl H2O Luvr said:

Cyclist said:

...but when you actually do it, open carry, you are endangering yourself and those around you...

Do you have any reliable non-partisan sources/statistics to back up this claim, or are we going with baseless emotional drivel on this one?

I'm slightly offended that you would think bicycle Rider would comment based on an emotion. It's a scientific fact that people can merely look at a firearm and it kills everybody. No One Is Safe! The government should step in and fix this evil problem because the government does nothing wrong and always knows exactly what's in the best interest of We the People

NACl H2O Luvr

treemanjohn said:

I'm slightly offended that you would think bicycle Rider would comment based on an emotion.

My apologies Kind Sir....it was not my intent to offend you in any way.

mustang190

But,,,,,, a establishment also has the right to say no to allowing weapons on their property. 
“ALL FIREARMS TO BE CHECKED IN AT THE DOOR””
or my favorite,,”ALL WOMEN OF ILL REPUTE NOT ALLOWED ON PREMISES “ 

Soda Popinski

treemanjohn said:

Finally judges get it right. Now we should have constitutional carry and eliminate all fees and licenses for permits. You should not have to pay to exercise your constitutional right

It is a bit odd you have to pay to exercise this particular right.   Imagine if you had to pay for a license to exercise free speech?  

Fish Haid

We need to implement a voting license.  Pay a fee, take a test, show proof of employment.

frank

if sustained, will municipalities have a standing to pass no gun laws? 

Big Battery

Based on what?

frank said:

if sustained, will municipalities have a standing to pass no gun laws? 

pottydoc

Cyclist said:

Open carry is a Catch-22. Kinda makes sense on paper, to protect yourself and all that blah blah, etc., but when you actually do it, open carry, you are endangering yourself and those around you and no longer benefit from perceived safety...in fact...open carry people may very well be mentally ill.

With the exception of the mentality ill comment, I agree. I’m as pro gun as anyone, but see no reason for open carry other than hunting, hiking etc. 

Finfinder

Big Battery said:

Based on what?

frank said:

if sustained, will municipalities have a standing to pass no gun laws? 

because they only recognize laws that fit their politics 

Cyclist

Finfinder said:

Big Battery said:

Based on what?

frank said:

if sustained, will municipalities have a standing to pass no gun laws? 

because they only recognize laws that fit their politics 

their politics = citizens

kellercl

I greatly prefer open carry to conceal.  I would rather know who to stay away from.  Conceal should be illegal, open should be legal.  

Wanting to stay away from people carrying guns isn't a knock or jab, just personal preference.  I would rather know.

Saltygatorvet

kellercl said:

I greatly prefer open carry to conceal.  I would rather know who to stay away from.  Conceal should be illegal, open should be legal.  

Wanting to stay away from people carrying guns isn't a knock or jab, just personal preference.  I would rather know.

It’s best to assume everyone is carrying. Now you know  

kellercl

Saltygatorvet said:

kellercl said:

I greatly prefer open carry to conceal.  I would rather know who to stay away from.  Conceal should be illegal, open should be legal.  

Wanting to stay away from people carrying guns isn't a knock or jab, just personal preference.  I would rather know.

It’s best to assume everyone is carrying. Now you know  

I kind of do.  I stay away from people, not because of guns, but because I assume everybody is crazy.

Big Battery

kellercl said:

I greatly prefer open carry to conceal.  I would rather know who to stay away from.  Conceal should be illegal, open should be legal.  

Wanting to stay away from people carrying guns isn't a knock or jab, just personal preference.  I would rather know.

It would be better if everyone that did not have a gun on their person just wore a florescent pink vest, then anyone with bad intentions would leave the rest of us alone.

treemanjohn

kellercl said:

I greatly prefer open carry to conceal.  I would rather know who to stay away from.  Conceal should be illegal, open should be legal.  

Wanting to stay away from people carrying guns isn't a knock or jab, just personal preference.  I would rather know.

You are surrounded by guns every day of your life and every place that you go. Your neighbors have guns your preacher has a gun teachers at school have guns......

Cyclist

treemanjohn said:

kellercl said:

I greatly prefer open carry to conceal.  I would rather know who to stay away from.  Conceal should be illegal, open should be legal.  

Wanting to stay away from people carrying guns isn't a knock or jab, just personal preference.  I would rather know.

You are surrounded by guns every day of your life and every place that you go. Your neighbors have guns your preacher has a gun teachers at school have guns......

And some people wonder why there are 73,505 nonfatal firearm injuries and 33,636 firearm deaths that occur in America every year.

Big Battery

Cyclist said:

And some people wonder why there are 73,505 nonfatal firearm injuries and 33,636 firearm deaths that occur in America every year.

Just think how low that number would be if more people carried guns.

Cyclist

Big Battery said:

Cyclist said:

And some people wonder why there are 73,505 nonfatal firearm injuries and 33,636 firearm deaths that occur in America every year.

Just think how low that number would be if more people carried guns.

LOL, good one. Who says right wingers don't have a sense of humor?

treemanjohn

Cyclist said:

treemanjohn said:

kellercl said:

I greatly prefer open carry to conceal.  I would rather know who to stay away from.  Conceal should be illegal, open should be legal.  

Wanting to stay away from people carrying guns isn't a knock or jab, just personal preference.  I would rather know.

You are surrounded by guns every day of your life and every place that you go. Your neighbors have guns your preacher has a gun teachers at school have guns......

And some people wonder why there are 73,505 nonfatal firearm injuries and 33,636 firearm deaths that occur in America every year.

I don't wonder. I know exactly why that happens and I'm ok with it.

Cyclist

treemanjohn said:

Cyclist said:

treemanjohn said:

kellercl said:

I greatly prefer open carry to conceal.  I would rather know who to stay away from.  Conceal should be illegal, open should be legal.  

Wanting to stay away from people carrying guns isn't a knock or jab, just personal preference.  I would rather know.

You are surrounded by guns every day of your life and every place that you go. Your neighbors have guns your preacher has a gun teachers at school have guns......

And some people wonder why there are 73,505 nonfatal firearm injuries and 33,636 firearm deaths that occur in America every year.

I don't wonder. I know exactly why that happens and I'm ok with it.

Nearly 1,300 kids under the age of 18 die every year from gunshot wounds, and almost 6,000 go to the hospital for non-fatal firearm injuries.

Big Battery

Cyclist said:

treemanjohn said:

Cyclist said:

treemanjohn said:

kellercl said:

I greatly prefer open carry to conceal.  I would rather know who to stay away from.  Conceal should be illegal, open should be legal.  

Wanting to stay away from people carrying guns isn't a knock or jab, just personal preference.  I would rather know.

You are surrounded by guns every day of your life and every place that you go. Your neighbors have guns your preacher has a gun teachers at school have guns......

And some people wonder why there are 73,505 nonfatal firearm injuries and 33,636 firearm deaths that occur in America every year.

I don't wonder. I know exactly why that happens and I'm ok with it.

Nearly 1,300 kids under the age of 18 die every year from gunshot wounds, and almost 6,000 go to the hospital for non-fatal firearm injuries.

Frankly that is just life.... 500,000 people a year go to the ER due to bicycle accidents. Look at the suffering and burden on the health care system caused by bicycles.

Cyclist

Big Battery said:

Cyclist said:

treemanjohn said:

Cyclist said:

treemanjohn said:

kellercl said:

I greatly prefer open carry to conceal.  I would rather know who to stay away from.  Conceal should be illegal, open should be legal.  

Wanting to stay away from people carrying guns isn't a knock or jab, just personal preference.  I would rather know.

You are surrounded by guns every day of your life and every place that you go. Your neighbors have guns your preacher has a gun teachers at school have guns......

And some people wonder why there are 73,505 nonfatal firearm injuries and 33,636 firearm deaths that occur in America every year.

I don't wonder. I know exactly why that happens and I'm ok with it.

Nearly 1,300 kids under the age of 18 die every year from gunshot wounds, and almost 6,000 go to the hospital for non-fatal firearm injuries.

Frankly that is just life.... 500,000 people a year go to the ER due to bicycle accidents. Look at the suffering and burden on the health care system caused by bicycles.

A typical life includes getting shot by someone?

Scoutboat

Big Battery said:

Moving in the right direction...

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/jul/24/americans-have-constitutional-right-carry-guns-pub/

B.B.
The right to own firearms has long been established and guaranteed by our 2'nd Amendment.
The issue is about pistols and revolvers.
The 10th Amendment gave an individual State the right to pass laws pertaining to the above as long as that law did not infringe on the 2nd Amendment.
What a mess!
Some states are very liberal about this, like my home state of Florida.  Practically anyone without a criminal record can receive a permit to carry concealed.  A resident who has a carry permit can "open" carry if they're engaged in camping, fishing or hunting.  To me, that's reasonable, unless you're fishing on a public pier..
Others, like N.Y. are much more restrictive.
Personally, I can't agree with open carry anywhere.

Big Battery

Cyclist said:

Big Battery said:

Cyclist said:

treemanjohn said:

Cyclist said:

treemanjohn said:

kellercl said:

I greatly prefer open carry to conceal.  I would rather know who to stay away from.  Conceal should be illegal, open should be legal.  

Wanting to stay away from people carrying guns isn't a knock or jab, just personal preference.  I would rather know.

You are surrounded by guns every day of your life and every place that you go. Your neighbors have guns your preacher has a gun teachers at school have guns......

And some people wonder why there are 73,505 nonfatal firearm injuries and 33,636 firearm deaths that occur in America every year.

I don't wonder. I know exactly why that happens and I'm ok with it.

Nearly 1,300 kids under the age of 18 die every year from gunshot wounds, and almost 6,000 go to the hospital for non-fatal firearm injuries.

Frankly that is just life.... 500,000 people a year go to the ER due to bicycle accidents. Look at the suffering and burden on the health care system caused by bicycles.

A typical life includes getting shot by someone?

Do you know what a Pareto chart is?  Does 6000 out of 330,000,000 constitute "typical"?