Shooting At A Maryland Newspaper

Finfinder

RStyle said:

As soon as I saw the news I opened the PalmBeach Post online. In the front page ( in the last 30 minutes)
1) man killed in Lake Worth shooting
2) 5 shot at Capitol Gazzete
3)1 shot in Riviera Beach Wednesday night
4) Man threatens shootout West Palm health facility

Then opened the TPC Palm Tribune and the Brevard News online
1) 16 yr old injured in shooting
2) shots fired during armed robbery
3) two shot in Palm City drinking......
4)Fort Pierce woman shot ex husband multiple times

But............we do not have a problem with gun violence in this country.

Actually the only thing this proves is guns sell news to those hooked on the Kool- Aid of a progressive agenda.   The problem is the fake news trolls people all too willing to consume their narrative.    

19 people were shot  in Chicago this past Monday. Fathers Day was the deadliest weekend of the year,  You would think the Nobel Peace  Prize nominees Dragon, Bimini, or Tarpon would have reported this.  Apparently its not convenient for the narrative they want to advance here.    

Tarponator

Actually, it plays right into the "narrative" that we have a gun violence problem in this country, so thanks for pointing it out.

But you'd never be able to tell from the right-wing media accounts.  Hell, Fox News' lead story on the events yesterday is, right now, "Reuters editor in trouble for blaming Trump for Gazette massacre"

See for yourself:  http://www.foxnews.com

Kool Aid indeed.

Tarponator

By comparison, please have a look at the headlines from the so-called "fake media":

http://cnn.com and their lead story: https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/29/us/inside-capital-gazette-newsroom-shooting/index.html  A completely non-partisan account of the events.

http://msnbc.com and their lead story, an interview (with no partisan comments whatsoever) of the Mayor:  http://www.msnbc.com/hallie-jackson/watch/annapolis-mayor-gavin-buckley-on-capital-gazette-shooting-1266893379568

So, Finfinder, what narrative were you talking about again, that is to say other than the Chicago whataboutism you seem so fond in promoting as diversion?

nuevowavo

Why not save time and just c&p  the same gun thread every time there's a mass shooting? It only took five posts to start it on this thread.

mplspug

Tarponator said:

Actually, it plays right into the "narrative" that we have a gun violence problem in this country, so thanks for pointing it out.

But you'd never be able to tell from the right-wing media accounts.  Hell, Fox News' lead story on the events yesterday is, right now, "Reuters editor in trouble for blaming Trump for Gazette massacre"

See for yourself:  http://www.foxnews.com

Kool Aid indeed.

So a Reuter editor (who has apologized thus adadmitting guilt) blaming trump for the massacre isn't a story?

Tarponator

Of course it's a story.

 It's also an obvious agenda-driven narrative -- in fact the lead story on this tragic event on the Fox News website -- and in stark contrast to the quite factual stories leading on the  "fake news" websites. 

So, I ask again, who is driving a narrative?

mustang190

Actually it’s not a “Gun violence” problem.  It’s a social problem. Life is cheap in a lot of “communities”. 

mustang190

Tarponator said:

Of course it's a story.

 It's also an obvious agenda-driven narrative -- in fact the lead story on this tragic event on the Fox News website -- and in stark contrast to the quite factual stories leading on the  "fake news" websites. 

So, I ask again, who is driving a narrative?

I don’t use Twitter and never will. But what has been pointed out is the rush by reporters to be the first to “tweet” out their beliefs and opinions before any evidence is known. Thus the FAKE NEWS narrative. 

frank

2amigo said:

Carl Hiassen's brother Rob, who used to write for the Palm beach post was one of the one's that was killed.

Sad 
he left behind a wife and children 
gunned down at 59 years old 

mustang190

frank said:

2amigo said:

Carl Hiassen's brother Rob, who used to write for the Palm beach post was one of the one's that was killed.

Sad 
he left behind a wife and children 
gunned down at 59 years old 

I wondered that too when I heard the victims names. 

Finfinder

nuevowavo said:

Why not save time and just c&p  the same gun thread every time there's a mass shooting? It only took five posts to start it on this thread.

Tarponator said:

By comparison, please have a look at the headlines from the so-called "fake media":

http://cnn.com and their lead story: https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/29/us/inside-capital-gazette-newsroom-shooting/index.html  A completely non-partisan account of the events.

http://msnbc.com and their lead story, an interview (with no partisan comments whatsoever) of the Mayor:  http://www.msnbc.com/hallie-jackson/watch/annapolis-mayor-gavin-buckley-on-capital-gazette-shooting-1266893379568

So, Finfinder, what narrative were you talking about again, that is to say other than the Chicago whataboutism you seem so fond in promoting as diversion?

   

I agree with Nuevowavo that this has been done before, we probably differ on who the instigators are but……. 


@Tarpon
The narrative of the same 3 to 4 contrarian guys posting the same opposing views to basically every political issue.   In this case we have an angry militant guy who for 8 years told his opponents they rooted against America but now, his posts seem to be rooting against America, a guy who blames a non-descript YouTube channel and a long winded somewhat pompous virtue signaler. 

 Too be honest I'm just not really interested in a 30 post back and forth with you.  Especially since ultimately you always must have the last word and eventually you feel the need to post some insecure comment about others intellect.   Don’t take it personally If my buddy was sitting next me and blamed this shooting on Trump or his supporters I would give him the same crap.   

mplspug

Tarponator said:

Of course it's a story.

 It's also an obvious agenda-driven narrative -- in fact the lead story on this tragic event on the Fox News website -- and in stark contrast to the quite factual stories leading on the  "fake news" websites. 

So, I ask again, who is driving a narrative?

Which narrative?  
The narrative Bimini and dragon were pushing?  Or the narrative that he was right leaning?

Tarponator

Finfinder said:

nuevowavo said:

Why not save time and just c&p  the same gun thread every time there's a mass shooting? It only took five posts to start it on this thread.

Tarponator said:

By comparison, please have a look at the headlines from the so-called "fake media":

http://cnn.com and their lead story: https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/29/us/inside-capital-gazette-newsroom-shooting/index.html  A completely non-partisan account of the events.

http://msnbc.com and their lead story, an interview (with no partisan comments whatsoever) of the Mayor:  http://www.msnbc.com/hallie-jackson/watch/annapolis-mayor-gavin-buckley-on-capital-gazette-shooting-1266893379568

So, Finfinder, what narrative were you talking about again, that is to say other than the Chicago whataboutism you seem so fond in promoting as diversion?

   

I agree with Nuevowavo that this has been done before, we probably differ on who the instigators are but……. 


@Tarpon
The narrative of the same 3 to 4 contrarian guys posting the same opposing views to basically every political issue.   In this case we have an angry militant guy who for 8 years told his opponents they rooted against America but now, his posts seem to be rooting against America, a guy who blames a non-descript YouTube channel and a long winded somewhat pompous virtue signaler. 

 Too be honest I'm just not really interested in a 30 post back and forth with you.  Especially since ultimately you always must have the last word and eventually you feel the need to post some insecure comment about others intellect.   Don’t take it personally If my buddy was sitting next me and blamed this shooting on Trump or his supporters I would give him the same crap.   

Tell me, is that any different from the same 6-9 conservatives -- including you -- posting the same opposing views to basically every political issue?

Incidentally, it was those same conservatives that took this conversation in the direction Nuevo was commenting on.  Take a look at post #5 for your instigator.

You can now have the last word along with the commitment that I will never respond to you again.

Take care....>Mike

Tarponator

mplspug said:

Tarponator said:

Of course it's a story.

 It's also an obvious agenda-driven narrative -- in fact the lead story on this tragic event on the Fox News website -- and in stark contrast to the quite factual stories leading on the  "fake news" websites. 

So, I ask again, who is driving a narrative?

Which narrative?  
The narrative Bimini and dragon were pushing?  Or the narrative that he was right leaning?

Please don't confuse my parenthetical question (i.e. right-leaning?) with a narrative, and I thought we were talking about the narrative in the major news outlets.

mplspug

So reporting that a Reuter's, a source of news that most media outlets use as an objective base for news, tried to push the narrative the president caused a shooting at a news paper changes the narrative of the shooting how? 

Resinhead

Tarponator said:

You can now have the last word along with the commitment that I will never respond to you again.

Take care....>Mike

Taking your ball and going home again?!?

You've got quite the collection.

Tarponator

mplspug said:

So reporting that a Reuter's, a source of news that most media outlets use as an objective base for news, tried to push the narrative the president caused a shooting at a news paper changes the narrative of the shooting how? 

Did you read the story?  It was a personal tweet, and has since been deleted, and apologized for.

The point is that it's the lead story on the tragedy from Fox News.  Not the killings, not the killer, but a Reuters employee's tweet.

To me, that sure sounds like a narrative -- curiously absent from the "fake news" over on CNN and MSNBC -- and of course you are free to disagree.

wahoowacker01

Paging Dr Phil 

nuevowavo

  

I agree with Nuevowavo 

I'm feeling faint...

mplspug

I don't see how it is an attempt to change a narrative.  What ever that narrative is you think they are changing.  Of course you are free to disagree, but not sure you understand the term narrative.

Tarponator

I'm taking about the narrative that Fox News is telling by leading with that story, and I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you knew what I was talking about.  Your disagreement has been noted.  Take care...Mike

mplspug

The story is completely separate.  Maybe the phrase you are looking for is "change the subject"? 

Usually a narrative is changed to hide or cover something up. 

Have a nice weekend - Mike

Gardawg

False statements on FOX …
http://http//www.politifact.com/punditfact/tv/fox/false/ 

Pants on Fire Lies on FOX

http://http//www.politifact.com/punditfact/tv/fox/pants-fire/

Parkerboy

Next will be a call for the banning of pump action shotguns

mplspug

Politifact lol

So what do those links have to do with the topic?

Gardawg

outright lies are pretty much evidence of trying to promote a false narrative 

duh!

mindyabiness

Gardawg said:

outright lies are pretty much evidence of trying to promote a false narrative 

duh!

Both of those links redirect to another website, which my browser recommends avoiding. This means you are wasting my time and yours.

Post a good link to a reputable site so we can see these outright lies

mplspug

There are 2 "http"s in the link.  Remove the first.  I didn't see any posts about the topic at hand so....

As for changing the narrative, the actual narrative trying to be changed is still a mystery.

Tarponator

Instead of reporting on the event, Fox news chose to change the narrative into what a reporter tweeted about the attack.  Even going so far as to have that story as the lead story on their website.

You're far too sharp not to understand that, MPLS.

mustang190

I thought tweets were a legitimate news sources???