Florida Reef Restoration Co-operative!!! ??!

spanglerspangler daBurgPosts: 808 Officer
edited June 25 in Conservation Front #1
I attended the most recent fwc commissioner meeting last week.  On the second day, a presentation was given about Florida's reef system.  I had no idea about the disease that has popped up.  It's alarming.

I have kept aquariums my whole life.  I maintained them professionally for a few years and kept some pretty sophisticated reef tanks.  I still have friends entrenched in the hobby personally and professionally.

So during the presentation, it got me to thinking.  Why don't we set up a system that would allow hobbyist and/or educational institutions, through permitting and an inspection process, to grow out staghorn and elkhorn (or whatever else) that can be used to restock the reefs? 

I would imagine there would be quite a few hobbyist interested and they already are growing out myriads of species.  I'd do it!  How cool would it be to go dive a reef that you helped restore with coral YOU grew out?!

Also, I'd bet there would be many schools that would have a teacher interested in starting a program at the school.  Which would be great for education and outreach.

I was hoping I might get some feedback here before I get further engaged with staff.  Maybe this is far fetched, but even the agencies know they are limited severely by resources.  Gotta start thinking outside the box!


  • pjepje Orlando , FlPosts: 644 Officer
  • pjepje Orlando , FlPosts: 644 Officer
  • spanglerspangler daBurgPosts: 808 Officer
    For the love of.. I know there are existing organizations for crying out loud.  What is it with people on here?!

    I've actually spoke with representatives of these orgs fwiw.  THEY understand they can't do it by themselves.  Wake up people.
  • Tom HiltonTom Hilton Posts: 1,580 Captain
    People can make a difference if they get off their butts and put their mind, effort, and $$ into it.
    kudos for stepping up Spangler!
  • pjepje Orlando , FlPosts: 644 Officer
    spangler said:
    For the love of.. I know there are existing organizations for crying out loud.  What is it with people on here?!

    I've actually spoke with representatives of these orgs fwiw.  THEY understand they can't do it by themselves.  Wake up people.
    What are you implying ? Do you have a problem ?
  • pjepje Orlando , FlPosts: 644 Officer
    What is it with people on here ?!   It's actually people like you that make people not want to post on here . Someone tries to help , and you get a crappy attitude about it . What a way to drum up some support lol
  • spanglerspangler daBurgPosts: 808 Officer
    No implications.  It's pretty clear.  This forum is consistently barraged by people pimping their product, click bait, spammers, bots, trolls.  Beneficial dialogue is constantly impeded or outright derailed by it.  Ad infinitum of divergent, intertwining threads.  Lot's of good info on here, spoiled by the need of some to satisfy their own egos.

    No one asked what organizations are restoring reefs...

    What is sad is people's inability to stay on topic and no one around here to moderate it.  Without it, you get garbage.  Thanks for adding to the pile.

    My only problem, is everyone's problem.  Wake up!
  • spanglerspangler daBurgPosts: 808 Officer
    edited June 26 #10
    So, back to the op.....

    The issues, considering that we are talking about a protected species, would be one of process and permitting.  I think the challenge for hobbyist would be that: the regulations would probably specify monocultures be maintained.  May not be too many hobbyist able or interested enough to do that?

    For educators, obviously, there would likely have to be some type of funding created.  Maybe not though, I think you could get a workable setup going for a relatively small budget.  Maybe utilizing existing resources.
  • Ron@.38 Special[email protected] Special Posts: 6,838 Admiral
    Right now the state is scared to death of coral disease and how it affect relocation and propagation.
    We need to make sure we are not outplanting diseased corals.
  • spanglerspangler daBurgPosts: 808 Officer
    edited July 24 #12
    That's a great point.  And probably a significant problem and risk factor for allowing hobbyist...  They're importing all kinds of things from all over.  The possibility of cross contamination may be too high.  Even if the florida corals were monocultured, yet colocated on a premise with exotic species.

    But, maybe there is an adequate quarantine process that could be implemented.  Not sure you'd want the growers doing the outplanting anyway.  So the growers would have to ship to a facility where there is some quarantine period.
  • So, latest coral news.

    We are in the middle of the most devastating coral bleaching and disease outbreak and Florida is the center of the most devastating impact in the entire world.

    Gov Scott has given an emergency fund to FDEP in cooperation with NOAA to respond to the Disease.

    How bad is it? Many think this could be the end of our coral reef system. 

    In some cases we have entered the "Noah's Ark" phase where healthy corals are being moved to the lab and aquaculture site to save the species. 

    Nearly anyone in academia or working for FDEP and /or NOAA on coral , are on the water working with one of several groups on spawning experiments, disease identification and treatment, and coral "Arking". In some cases DNA is being preserved for future if it comes to that scenario.

    Our firm works in the business and in part we supply logistics to NOAA.  This is the most serious issue in the Florida Environment that I have ever seen ,

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  • TheNSBkidTheNSBkid Lake MaryPosts: 49 Greenhorn
    I wish I was born the same generation as you oldies so I could've seen Florida before it went to crap. I just get to hear the stories about the wonderful fishing, clean water, and pristine reefs. Reefs are dying because the water is becoming toxic. (acidity, pollution, algae, warmer water, etc.). growing coral and replanting it won't be a longterm solution as the coral will die again. I read somewhere that studies are being done to grow super corals that can withstand the changing environment. If I have seen the vast degradation of Florida waters in my lifetime I can only imagine what Y'all have seen. So much has to change to help fix Florida but in the end, nothing will. We wait till it's broken to a point of no repair to start freaking out and try doing something. "Don't fix it unless it's broken" right???
  • EnyarEnyar Posts: 69 Greenhorn
    How is this not in the news?
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