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Record levels of plastic discovered in Arctic sea ice

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  • TarponatorTarponator Under a BridgePosts: 17,010 AG
    As sad as it may be, I don't think you're wrong about any of that.
  • cadmancadman Home of the Gators Posts: 32,596 AG
    edited April 2018 #33
    We aren't killing the Earth,. It is impossible to kill the planet. Sooner or later we will be gone from the face of this planet and in a short time (few million years) after that, there will be very little or no evidence we were ever here. Don't worry about the planet, just worry about how many future generations are left before the planet shakes us of like some infestation. 

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    I am just here for my amusement. 

  • dave44dave44 Posts: 11,543 AG
    cadman said:
    We aren't killing the Earth,. It is impossible to kill the planet. Sooner or later we will be gone from the face of this planet and in a short time (few million years) after that, there will be very little or no evidence we were ever here. Don't worry about the planet, just worry about how many future generations are left before the planet shakes us of like some infestation. 
      I’m sorry Cad, I have to agree with you. I hope we can still be friends?
  • CyclistCyclist Posts: 23,346 AG
    cadman said:
    We aren't killing the Earth,. It is impossible to kill the planet. Sooner or later we will be gone from the face of this planet and in a short time (few million years) after that, there will be very little or no evidence we were ever here. Don't worry about the planet, just worry about how many future generations are left before the planet shakes us of like some infestation. 
    The planet is one...you can't kill parts of it and expect the rest to function normally. Interesting thing is, worldwide, christers are playing god....with their stupidity about the planet....isn't that a sin?....ha ha ha
  • dave44dave44 Posts: 11,543 AG
    Cyclist said:
    cadman said:
    We aren't killing the Earth,. It is impossible to kill the planet. Sooner or later we will be gone from the face of this planet and in a short time (few million years) after that, there will be very little or no evidence we were ever here. Don't worry about the planet, just worry about how many future generations are left before the planet shakes us of like some infestation. 
    The planet is one...you can't kill parts of it and expect the rest to function normally. Interesting thing is, worldwide, christers are playing god....with their stupidity about the planet....isn't that a sin?....ha ha ha
    I’m pretty sure you are Very ill informed about who is trying to dictate unproven design changes in the ecosystem.
       But we all knew that. Just pointing it out for the sake of public ridicule.
  • CyclistCyclist Posts: 23,346 AG
    dave44 said:
    Cyclist said:
    cadman said:
    We aren't killing the Earth,. It is impossible to kill the planet. Sooner or later we will be gone from the face of this planet and in a short time (few million years) after that, there will be very little or no evidence we were ever here. Don't worry about the planet, just worry about how many future generations are left before the planet shakes us of like some infestation. 
    The planet is one...you can't kill parts of it and expect the rest to function normally. Interesting thing is, worldwide, christers are playing god....with their stupidity about the planet....isn't that a sin?....ha ha ha
    I’m pretty sure you are Very ill informed about who is trying to dictate unproven design changes in the ecosystem.
       But we all knew that. Just pointing it out for the sake of public ridicule.
    You are incorrect. They are proven and documented.
  • SAENoleSAENole Posts: 11,187 AG
    This really puts it all into perspective:


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  • mplspugmplspug Palmetto FloridaPosts: 12,554 AG
    **** that was a long setup.  Especially since I thought the finish was coming at your Uranus.  

    Pun absolutely intended.  

    Captain Todd Approves

  • Billy No MatesBilly No Mates Posts: 3,187 Captain

    George Carlin on Saving the Planet:


  • kellerclkellercl Posts: 6,356 Admiral
    Personally I loathe all this bottle water crap.  I get we have to enjoy life which damages the environment but there are some small things we can do.  Quick buying pallets of bottle water and use a cup is a great example.


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  • sk018sk018 Posts: 2,958 Captain
    We should definitely cut back on using so much plastic.  This is an actual environmental issue we could help and focus on.  But, too many are more focused on buying Al Gore's warming hoax to care about things that actually hurt our environment.
  • mplspugmplspug Palmetto FloridaPosts: 12,554 AG
    kellercl said:
    Personally I loathe all this bottle water crap.  I get we have to enjoy life which damages the environment but there are some small things we can do.  Quick buying pallets of bottle water and use a cup is a great example.
    Just recycle the bottle.

    George Carlin was brilliant.  What makes it even funnier is there are a lot of people who laugh at his observations, even though they don't acknowledge that they are the butt of his joke.  

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  • kellerclkellercl Posts: 6,356 Admiral
    edited May 2018 #44
    mplspug said:
    kellercl said:
    Personally I loathe all this bottle water crap.  I get we have to enjoy life which damages the environment but there are some small things we can do.  Quick buying pallets of bottle water and use a cup is a great example.
    Just recycle the bottle.

    George Carlin was brilliant.  What makes it even funnier is there are a lot of people who laugh at his observations, even though they don't acknowledge that they are the butt of his joke.  
    Recycling is nice and all, but it is not energy free.  It makes no sense to pound 4 bottles a day when I can use a cup for 10 years.  Same goes for workplaces where folks use disposable coffee cups instead of ceramic mugs.  Those are both super easy and a no brainer.  There is no reason to be creating such waste when the gain is minimal at best.  


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    -Walter Payton
  • SAENoleSAENole Posts: 11,187 AG
    You can have my styrofoam when you pry it from my cold dead hands.  
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  • kellerclkellercl Posts: 6,356 Admiral
    SAENole said:
    You can have my styrofoam when you pry it from my cold dead hands.  
    If you reuse it, I don't want it.  To me disposable items are the epitome of American laziness.  


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    -Walter Payton
  • mustang190mustang190 Posts: 10,104 AG
    kellercl said:
    Personally I loathe all this bottle water crap.  I get we have to enjoy life which damages the environment but there are some small things we can do.  Quick buying pallets of bottle water and use a cup is a great example.
    I agree whole heartedly!
     I’m old enough to remember when the only bottled water was a empty coke bottle you filled with tap water and stuck a freakin’ cork in it!! We survived!!
  • treemanjohntreemanjohn Posts: 5,021 Admiral
    Worried scared cry!Worried scared cry!Worried scared cry!Worried scared cry!Worried scared cry!
    We’re like the piggy bank that everybody is robbing, and that ends
  • Ron@.38 Special[email protected] Special Posts: 6,934 Admiral
    Every single piece of plastic that ever made it to the ocean is still there right now!
  • Turner River TerrorTurner River Terror Posts: 8,002 Admiral
    Pretty soon we can start harvesting it like seaweed..
    Killin and Grillin :grin
  • mindyabinessmindyabiness Posts: 6,414 Admiral
    Pretty soon we can start harvesting it like seaweed..
    If the price gets high enough, that's what will happen.
    Arguing with idiots is like playing chess with a pigeon... No matter how good you are, the bird is going to crap on the board and strut around like it won anyway.
  • 2amigo2amigo Posts: 5,859 Admiral
    However anybody feels about this thread, if you don’t think pollution is affecting this planet, you have your head in the sand.  
  • Turner River TerrorTurner River Terror Posts: 8,002 Admiral
    I've been out in the Shipping lanes a lot.
    You should see the garbage bags floating out there from the Freighters.
    Flagged Vessels from all over the World
    Killin and Grillin :grin
  • Turner River TerrorTurner River Terror Posts: 8,002 Admiral
    How long do you think it will take to get the Message across to the Philippine Crew on the Indonesia Flagged vessel not to throw stuff overboard..
    Killin and Grillin :grin
  • dave44dave44 Posts: 11,543 AG
    How long do you think it will take to get the Message across to the Philippine Crew on the Indonesia Flagged vessel not to throw stuff overboard..
    That’s the crux of it, isn’t it? Keep hammering, harassing, legislating and leveling fines on Americans. Play on American guilt, but 99% of the perpetrators aren’t Americans?
  • mustang190mustang190 Posts: 10,104 AG
    dave44 said:
    How long do you think it will take to get the Message across to the Philippine Crew on the Indonesia Flagged vessel not to throw stuff overboard..
    That’s the crux of it, isn’t it? Keep hammering, harassing, legislating and leveling fines on Americans. Play on American guilt, but 99% of the perpetrators aren’t Americans?
    As I have said before, if you want to see what real pollution looks like go to these 3rd world countries. And especially the socialist ones. 
  • surfmansurfman WC FLPosts: 5,982 Admiral
    It has to be a record, a thousand years ago there was no plastic. isn't plastic pretty much inert? I mean so what if you ingest micro particles of plastic, won't it just pass on to the next feeder?
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  • CyclistCyclist Posts: 23,346 AG
    dave44 said:
    How long do you think it will take to get the Message across to the Philippine Crew on the Indonesia Flagged vessel not to throw stuff overboard..
    That’s the crux of it, isn’t it? Keep hammering, harassing, legislating and leveling fines on Americans. Play on American guilt, but 99% of the perpetrators aren’t Americans?
    Americans are one of the biggest consumers of products and energy in the world. The trash generated and energy used by someone who earns 15$ a month is minuscule compared to one American.
  • dave44dave44 Posts: 11,543 AG
    Cyclist said:
    dave44 said:
    How long do you think it will take to get the Message across to the Philippine Crew on the Indonesia Flagged vessel not to throw stuff overboard..
    That’s the crux of it, isn’t it? Keep hammering, harassing, legislating and leveling fines on Americans. Play on American guilt, but 99% of the perpetrators aren’t Americans?
    Americans are one of the biggest consumers of products and energy in the world. The trash generated and energy used by someone who earns 15$ a month is minuscule compared to one American.
    Yet they are the worst offenders. Your comparison didn’t work.
  • CyclistCyclist Posts: 23,346 AG
    edited May 2018 #60
    surfman said:
    It has to be a record, a thousand years ago there was no plastic. isn't plastic pretty much inert? I mean so what if you ingest micro particles of plastic, won't it just pass on to the next feeder?
    So is the plastic a good substitute for nutritious plankton, krill, etc. or do the animals have to eat lots more and expend more energy to get the same amount of nutrition.
  • mustang190mustang190 Posts: 10,104 AG
    Cyclist said:
    dave44 said:
    How long do you think it will take to get the Message across to the Philippine Crew on the Indonesia Flagged vessel not to throw stuff overboard..
    That’s the crux of it, isn’t it? Keep hammering, harassing, legislating and leveling fines on Americans. Play on American guilt, but 99% of the perpetrators aren’t Americans?
    Americans are one of the biggest consumers of products and energy in the world. The trash generated and energy used by someone who earns 15$ a month is minuscule compared to one American.
    Cyclist said:
    dave44 said:
    How long do you think it will take to get the Message across to the Philippine Crew on the Indonesia Flagged vessel not to throw stuff overboard..
    That’s the crux of it, isn’t it? Keep hammering, harassing, legislating and leveling fines on Americans. Play on American guilt, but 99% of the perpetrators aren’t Americans?
    Americans are one of the biggest consumers of products and energy in the world. The trash generated and energy used by someone who earns 15$ a month is minuscule compared to one American.
    Please go over to those impeccably clean 3rd world countries and get back with us. 
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