2018 Bear Hunt

MackokidMackokid Posts: 918 Officer
Any Discussion's yet? Haven't heard anything from my neck of the woods yet.
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  • AllenRAllenR Posts: 2,702 Captain
    IIRC, it's shut down for last season and this upcoming season. To be revisited after that
  • Soda PopinskiSoda Popinski GrovelandPosts: 11,206 AG
    I'll be surprised if the Anti's ever let another one happen.   
    People use statistics the way a drunk uses a street light, for support rather than illumination.
  • N. CookN. Cook Posts: 2,100 Captain
    edited April 2018 #4
    Nothing is going to happen until the Nov. election is over....Then it will be a war.....To have a season in the fall of 2019 the Bear Hunt will need to be on the first 2019 Commission meeting agenda...or last 2018 meeting if possible.....and, with all the new Commissioners and a new Ex. Director at the FWC, we are not sure we have the BRAVE support for a hunt that will be needed to fight the massive protests of the anti hunters sure to come....Since the original hunt was approved and bear hunting is on the books, all the Commissioners really have to do is "vote for a 2019 bear hunt with rules as developed by staff"....one meeting, one vote....However, that is not likely.
  • PinmanPinman Posts: 2,388 Captain
    This is about more than just Bear Hunting. 
  • bgeorgebgeorge Plant City FLPosts: 1,634 Captain
    N. Cook said:
    Nothing is going to happen until the Nov. election is over....Then it will be a war.....To have a season in the fall of 2019 the Bear Hunt will need to be on the first 2019 Commission meeting agenda...or last 2018 meeting if possible.....and, with all the new Commissioners and a new Ex. Director at the FWC, we are not sure we have the BRAVE support for a hunt that will be needed to fight the massive protests of the anti hunters sure to come....Since the original hunt was approved and bear hunting is on the books, all the Commissioners really have to do is "vote for a 2019 bear hunt with rules as developed by staff"....one meeting, one vote....However, that is not likely.
    All structure is still in tack.  All that would be required is a quota set. The big question that needs to be asked is how many bears have been dispatched and dumped to rot instead of allowing a member of the public a chance to harvest the bear for beneficial use.  

    One of 3 big reasons I will not vote for Scott.  I will not vote for Nelson either. The way I see it is Scott is like the officers that failed to engage and stop threats to law abiding citizens.  If he fails me in my own State with veto power he will not suddenly have a revelation if he gets to DC.  
    The man who moves a mountain begins by carrying away small stones. Hopefully the next man is not dropping his stones on the mountain you are trying to move.
  • N. CookN. Cook Posts: 2,100 Captain
    No one jumped on
    Scott harder than me in his pressure on the FWC to
    stop the bear hunt to prevent controversy before this coming election. I had a personal conversation with a top aide warning them that “not a single one of the anti hunters will vote for Scott, and now some percentage of hunters who would normally vote for him will not.”  It was a calculated move. I will bite my tongue and vote for him as the alternative is anti gun and sure to vote the Socialist line in the Senate. 
  • bgeorgebgeorge Plant City FLPosts: 1,634 Captain
    N. Cook said:
    No one jumped on
    Scott harder than me in his pressure on the FWC to
    stop the bear hunt to prevent controversy before this coming election. I had a personal conversation with a top aide warning them that “not a single one of the anti hunters will vote for Scott, and now some percentage of hunters who would normally vote for him will not.”  It was a calculated move. I will bite my tongue and vote for him as the alternative is anti gun and sure to vote the Socialist line in the Senate. 

    And that is what he counted on. He could do anything against his supporters as long as he was up against Nelson.   At some point the people must demand more from those who are elected to represent us.  I rather take it in the face fighting the other side than in the back from friendly fire.  {Insert Beneli favorite acronym here}
    The man who moves a mountain begins by carrying away small stones. Hopefully the next man is not dropping his stones on the mountain you are trying to move.
  • binellishtrbinellishtr Posts: 8,797 Admiral
  • bgeorgebgeorge Plant City FLPosts: 1,634 Captain
    BOHICA

    Just could not make myself type it.  But if elected his supporters will get it again.
    The man who moves a mountain begins by carrying away small stones. Hopefully the next man is not dropping his stones on the mountain you are trying to move.
  • GRIZZLGRIZZL Posts: 807 Officer
    N. Cook said:
    No one jumped on
    Scott harder than me in his pressure on the FWC to
    stop the bear hunt to prevent controversy before this coming election. I had a personal conversation with a top aide warning them that “not a single one of the anti hunters will vote for Scott, and now some percentage of hunters who would normally vote for him will not.”  It was a calculated move. I will bite my tongue and vote for him as the alternative is anti gun and sure to vote the Socialist line in the Senate. 
    After Scott tried to sell off Bull Creek I communicated with his office that I had a list of EVERY hunter in the state and I was emailing 5000 a day (my email limit per day because of spam regulations). I told him I had ALREADY emailed 40,000 Hunters telling them not to vote for Scott for Senate if this sale went through. The Friends for Bull Creek put of a hell of a fight too. Sadly the help we got from the conservation groups will oppose this this time around. BUT I see the emailing working on this. If you get 10 or so volunteers to email every day the SPAM limit to ALL hunters I am sure it would have the desired impact. you are talking ALLOT of voters (More than the anti's since THIS list exists in it's totality and it costs nothing to access or create)

    You may not get hunters to a meeting but I am sure they would vote their interests. I still have my excel macro that converts the lists text streams to email  multiple addy's that can be cut and pasted into the To: Email . If someone wants to put together a coherent email to hunters, I'd volunteer to convert the list and email *my* share. Others would have to help email based on their email service limitations or we have an unlimited business email service do the sending

    I'm surprised someone hasn't set this up a a lobby tool (Maybe they have but I haven't got a survey or emal on Hunters needs/rights)
  • N. CookN. Cook Posts: 2,100 Captain
    UW-F uses Constant Contact and has several specific email lists according to the issue.....We can generate a lot of heat on the "target"!....However, "punishing" Scott is cutting off your nose to spite your face....No doubt Scott took a calculated risk with the bear hunt issue....AND it would be "satisfying" to vote against him...BUT....that is politics...rarely black/white.....One thing for sure, Scott knows he "owes us one".....if we help get him elected....Where as Nelson will gleefully support the gun banners and anti hunters...and use his political pressure to insure there will NEVER be a bear hunt in Florida......As a hunter and gun owner, you really have only one positive choice....you may have to hold your nose (but it will still be on your face!).....
  • spanglerspangler daBurgPosts: 1,687 Captain
    edited April 2018 #13
    idk, i think if you're looking short term, and you wanna bear hunt asap, then sure scott might be the best bet.  If you are really concerned about habitat and the environment, I think nelson might be the best bet.  Of course you'd have to compromise on nelson's liberal agendas, but that's politics...

    "In 2015, after Gov. Rick Scott directed Florida officials to stop using the terms "climate change" and "global warming," Nelson introduced an amendment to prevent federal agencies from censoring official communications on climate change. It "fell to a point of order after a 51-49 vote, though Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL) joined Nelson in supporting the amendment." -wikipedia

    ....and countless other examples of how horrific Scott is for the environment and Florida's ecotourism.  Never mind all the crony capitalism....

    I'm with Bgeorge.  I'll do just like I did for the president and cast a protest ballot.  I think they both suck.  I don't care what anyone has to say, either, about voting.  My conscience and morals won't allow me to vote for corrupt, sellouts.  Yeah, I can hate the player and the game. 



  • Florida BullfrogFlorida Bullfrog Posts: 2,617 Captain
    Scott lost my vote too because of the pressure he put on the FWC to stop the bear hunt. Netwon’s warning was right, no anti will vote for Scott over Nelson no matter what Scott does. All Scott did was offend his base. 

    Payback’s a...

    ...bear? 
  • swampwalkerswampwalker Posts: 2,359 Captain
    "Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me." At least Nelson is a given....
    The original - "Renaissance Redneck"
  • N. CookN. Cook Posts: 2,100 Captain
    I am usually not much of a Scott defender as he can wander off the reservation from time to time for sure...but, the Democrat attempts to knock him on the "environment" seem to ignore the fact that Scott, and the Republican State Legislature, have actually FUNDED major environmental work...not just made a lot of noise as you often hear from so called "environmentalists" who are often actually more interested in votes than clean water and conservation of natural lands...The LEGACY ACT, supported by Scott and passed by the Republicans, is the largest funding ever for EVERGLADES AND SPRING CONSERVATION AND RESTORATION....$200 million a year for 20 years....$4 BILLION DOLLARS!.....No Florida Governor or Legislature of either Party has done more....You do not hear much about this achievement as the media in Florida is consistently anti Republican and anti Scott...but, every year for the next 20 years this $200 million will be a base for funding the state's share of the Everglades Restoration and for other state conservation and restoration projects....with a lot of the Amendment One funding also going to support all the state agencies, Dept. of Forestry, FWC, FDEP, etc. etc...and Florida Forever....All together a pretty good record for Scott and the recent Legislatures...
  • bgeorgebgeorge Plant City FLPosts: 1,634 Captain
    Does a drunk driver that wanders out of his lane and hits just a few people get a pass if he funds MADD for the next 20 years? 
    The voters need to continue to speak up and get politics as usual to wake up.  They still can not believe that that many US citizens voted for Trump.  I can tell you this, Nelson is in their now and the citizens of Florida did not have their rights infringed on by him.  Scott is the one who signed bills and put pressure on commissioners to go away from science and data.  For that I will hold him solely accountable.
    The man who moves a mountain begins by carrying away small stones. Hopefully the next man is not dropping his stones on the mountain you are trying to move.
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