Other Countries and the NE US Are Out Of Their Mind On Guns. Check It Out

fins4me

Tarponator said:

fins4me said:

Tarponator said:

American Exceptionalism isn't what it once was.

Correct, it was severely damaged by FDR and the cascading effects of the entitlement society he crafted.

A closer look at those countries ranked higher on the lists I posted would suggest your assessment is incorrect.  In fact all of them have more, not less, entitlements that you seem to think are the downfall of our society. 

Funny how, for instance, not having to worry about being bitten by a snake, having a heart attack, or contracting caner and going bankrupt as a result makes people happy and productive and their countries exceptional. 

I try to keep my pets safe and healthy also.

dave44

fins4me said:

Tarponator said:

fins4me said:

Tarponator said:

American Exceptionalism isn't what it once was.

Correct, it was severely damaged by FDR and the cascading effects of the entitlement society he crafted.

A closer look at those countries ranked higher on the lists I posted would suggest your assessment is incorrect.  In fact all of them have more, not less, entitlements that you seem to think are the downfall of our society. 

Funny how, for instance, not having to worry about being bitten by a snake, having a heart attack, or contracting caner and going bankrupt as a result makes people happy and productive and their countries exceptional. 

I try to keep my pets safe and healthy also.

Whooshing sound.

Tarponator

Yeah, it's much easier to ignore the evidence than acknowledge the facts of the matter.

It's too bad Honduras didn't make the list, I guess, as their lack of social programs and lax gun laws seems to be much more your speed.

dave44

fins4me said:

Tarponator said:

fins4me said:

Tarponator said:

American Exceptionalism isn't what it once was.

Correct, it was severely damaged by FDR and the cascading effects of the entitlement society he crafted.

A closer look at those countries ranked higher on the lists I posted would suggest your assessment is incorrect.  In fact all of them have more, not less, entitlements that you seem to think are the downfall of our society. 

Funny how, for instance, not having to worry about being bitten by a snake, having a heart attack, or contracting caner and going bankrupt as a result makes people happy and productive and their countries exceptional. 

I try to keep my pets safe and healthy also.

Yes, it really did go “ whooosh”. 

Resinhead

Go figure...

dave44

Resinhead said:

Go figure...

Self adulation has its perks I guess.

stc1993

fins4me said:

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Nor asked for.

mustang190

Tarponator said:

There might be a problem if even the US News & World Report doesn't list the USA in the top 7:

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/overall-full-list

1. Switzerland
2. Canada
3. Germany
4. UK
5. Japan
6. Sweeden
7. Australia
8. United States

Here is the latest World Happiness Report from the UN:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Happiness_Report

1. Finland
2. Norway
3. Denmark
4. Iceland
5. Switzerland
6. Netherlands
7. Canada
8. New Zealand
9. Sweeden
10. Australia
...
18. United States

Does that help answer your question?

Tarponator, do you notice anything peculiar about those lists of countries you posted????
 Look at them and think really hard and you might get it. 
Good luck. 

fins4me

mustang190 said:

Tarponator said:

There might be a problem if even the US News & World Report doesn't list the USA in the top 7:

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/overall-full-list

1. Switzerland
2. Canada
3. Germany
4. UK
5. Japan
6. Sweeden
7. Australia
8. United States

Here is the latest World Happiness Report from the UN:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Happiness_Report

1. Finland
2. Norway
3. Denmark
4. Iceland
5. Switzerland
6. Netherlands
7. Canada
8. New Zealand
9. Sweeden
10. Australia
...
18. United States

Does that help answer your question?

Tarponator, do you notice anything peculiar about those lists of countries you posted????
 Look at them and think really hard and you might get it. 
Good luck. 

Political correctness would short circuit his little neurons before it allowed him to see or admit it.

fins4me

Political Correctness would short circuit his little neurons before it allowed him to see or be intellectually honest enough to admit it.

Tarponator

mustang190 said:

Tarponator said:

There might be a problem if even the US News & World Report doesn't list the USA in the top 7:

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/overall-full-list

1. Switzerland
2. Canada
3. Germany
4. UK
5. Japan
6. Sweeden
7. Australia
8. United States

Here is the latest World Happiness Report from the UN:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Happiness_Report

1. Finland
2. Norway
3. Denmark
4. Iceland
5. Switzerland
6. Netherlands
7. Canada
8. New Zealand
9. Sweeden
10. Australia
...
18. United States

Does that help answer your question?

Tarponator, do you notice anything peculiar about those lists of countries you posted????
 Look at them and think really hard and you might get it. 
Good luck. 

Sure.  They have more social programs and less guns.

Somehow, I don't think that was what you were after, so what was it you were hoping I would notice?

Happy Saturday, Mustang.

NewberryJeff

Tarponator said:

mustang190 said:

Tarponator said:

There might be a problem if even the US News & World Report doesn't list the USA in the top 7:

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/overall-full-list

1. Switzerland
2. Canada
3. Germany
4. UK
5. Japan
6. Sweeden
7. Australia
8. United States

Here is the latest World Happiness Report from the UN:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Happiness_Report

1. Finland
2. Norway
3. Denmark
4. Iceland
5. Switzerland
6. Netherlands
7. Canada
8. New Zealand
9. Sweeden
10. Australia
...
18. United States

Does that help answer your question?

Tarponator, do you notice anything peculiar about those lists of countries you posted????
 Look at them and think really hard and you might get it. 
Good luck. 

Sure.  They have more social programs and less guns.

Somehow, I don't think that was what you were after, so what was it you were hoping I would notice?

Happy Saturday, Mustang.

Actually, the OECD says only France is ahead of the US in total net social spending (% of GDP). https://data.oecd.org/socialexp/social-spending.htm

mustang190

Tarponator said:

mustang190 said:

Tarponator said:

There might be a problem if even the US News & World Report doesn't list the USA in the top 7:

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/overall-full-list

1. Switzerland
2. Canada
3. Germany
4. UK
5. Japan
6. Sweeden
7. Australia
8. United States

Here is the latest World Happiness Report from the UN:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Happiness_Report

1. Finland
2. Norway
3. Denmark
4. Iceland
5. Switzerland
6. Netherlands
7. Canada
8. New Zealand
9. Sweeden
10. Australia
...
18. United States

Does that help answer your question?

Tarponator, do you notice anything peculiar about those lists of countries you posted????
 Look at them and think really hard and you might get it. 
Good luck. 

Sure.  They have more social programs and less guns.

Somehow, I don't think that was what you were after, so what was it you were hoping I would notice?

Happy Saturday, Mustang.

That was a fine jump!  Still have that fly hooked in the corner of your mouth! Now this time jump stronger and give it the old head shake!
Try again.

Tarponator

NewberryJeff said:

Tarponator said:

mustang190 said:

Tarponator said:

There might be a problem if even the US News & World Report doesn't list the USA in the top 7:

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/overall-full-list

1. Switzerland
2. Canada
3. Germany
4. UK
5. Japan
6. Sweden
7. Australia
8. United States

Here is the latest World Happiness Report from the UN:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Happiness_Report

1. Finland
2. Norway
3. Denmark
4. Iceland
5. Switzerland
6. Netherlands
7. Canada
8. New Zealand
9. Sweeden
10. Australia
...
18. United States

Does that help answer your question?

Tarponator, do you notice anything peculiar about those lists of countries you posted????
 Look at them and think really hard and you might get it. 
Good luck. 

Sure.  They have more social programs and less guns.

Somehow, I don't think that was what you were after, so what was it you were hoping I would notice?

Happy Saturday, Mustang.

Actually, the OECD says only France is ahead of the US in total net social spending (% of GDP). https://data.oecd.org/socialexp/social-spending.htm

Hi Jeff,

Thanks for response, and that link.   I'm sorry to say, however, it appears as if you've read the data entirely wrong.

From the OECD link you were kind enough to share (showing % of GDP of social spending), here is the US News and World Report list:

1. Switzerland (19.73%)
2. Canada (17.21%)
3. Germany (25.29%)
4. UK (21.49%)
5. Japan (23.06%)
6. Sweden (27.06%)
7. Australia (19.15%)
8. USA (19.32%)

And here is the Happiness list:

1. Finland (30.78%)
2. Norway (25.07%)
3. Denmark (28.68%)
4. Iceland (not in the OECD, but it's 15%)
5. Switzerland (19.73%)
6. Netherlands (22.01%)
7. Canada (17.21%)
8. New Zealand (19.67%)
9. Sweden (27.06%)
10. Australia (19.15%)
...
18. United States

So, in fact, only Canada and Australia and Iceland spend less and every single other country spends more.  It's worth noting that all three somehow spend less and still have universal socialized healthcare.

You will also note that I said "programs" not "spending", but that's neither here nor there, so thank you for helping to prove the point...Mike

p.s. You watching the Masters?

Tarponator

mustang190 said:

That was a fine jump!  Still have that fly hooked in the corner of your mouth! Now this time jump stronger and give it the old head shake!
Try again.

Hi Mustang, 

I'm about to wear through the leader. 

Make your point in your next response to me, or you're getting the Resinhead treatment. 

You have one chance...and the next move is yours....Mike

Resinhead

Thanks for putting me on ignore! Made my day knowing you'll never respond to me again!!!

🍺🍺🍺

dave44

Be careful mustang, he’s got you on super triple secret probation!

NewberryJeff

Tarponator said:

NewberryJeff said:

Tarponator said:

mustang190 said:

Tarponator said:

There might be a problem if even the US News & World Report doesn't list the USA in the top 7:

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/overall-full-list

1. Switzerland
2. Canada
3. Germany
4. UK
5. Japan
6. Sweden
7. Australia
8. United States

Here is the latest World Happiness Report from the UN:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Happiness_Report

1. Finland
2. Norway
3. Denmark
4. Iceland
5. Switzerland
6. Netherlands
7. Canada
8. New Zealand
9. Sweeden
10. Australia
...
18. United States

Does that help answer your question?

Tarponator, do you notice anything peculiar about those lists of countries you posted????
 Look at them and think really hard and you might get it. 
Good luck. 

Sure.  They have more social programs and less guns.

Somehow, I don't think that was what you were after, so what was it you were hoping I would notice?

Happy Saturday, Mustang.

Actually, the OECD says only France is ahead of the US in total net social spending (% of GDP). https://data.oecd.org/socialexp/social-spending.htm

Hi Jeff,

Thanks for response, and that link.   I'm sorry to say, however, it appears as if you've read the data entirely wrong.

From the OECD link you were kind enough to share (showing % of GDP of social spending), here is the US News and World Report list:

1. Switzerland (19.73%)
2. Canada (17.21%)
3. Germany (25.29%)
4. UK (21.49%)
5. Japan (23.06%)
6. Sweden (27.06%)
7. Australia (19.15%)
8. USA (19.32%)

And here is the Happiness list:

1. Finland (30.78%)
2. Norway (25.07%)
3. Denmark (28.68%)
4. Iceland (not in the OECD, but it's 15%)
5. Switzerland (19.73%)
6. Netherlands (22.01%)
7. Canada (17.21%)
8. New Zealand (19.67%)
9. Sweden (27.06%)
10. Australia (19.15%)
...
18. United States

So, in fact, only Canada and Australia and Iceland spend less and every single other country spends more.  It's worth noting that all three somehow spend less and still have universal socialized healthcare.

You will also note that I said "programs" not "spending", but that's neither here nor there, so thank you for helping to prove the point...Mike

p.s. You watching the Masters?

Of course you did 🙂.  The fact is that redistribution spending in the US is higher than all other countries except France. If you want to go exclusively by what the usnw says then that would be up to you.
Have a wonderful eve.

Tarponator

NewberryJeff said:

The fact is that redistribution spending in the US is higher than all other countries except France. If you want to go exclusively by what the usnw says then that would be up to you.

Hi Jeff,  I don't want to "go exclusively" by anything, but thanks for allowing me the opportunity.  I was simply following the link you provided, and I'm sorry if it didn't quite say what you seemed to think it was saying.  And since we're being cordial, I'm certainly open to the idea that "redistribution spending in the US is higher than all other countries except France" however I'm not aware of such facts.  If you would kindly link to a source that shows them, then I would be more than happy to comment on them.   Thanks in advance...Mike

mustang190

dave44 said:

Be careful mustang, he’s got you on super triple secret probation!

His political correctness will never let him post the real answer!  
Funny thing is I'm playing him on a 5wt with a 10 lb. tippet! 

Tarponator

Pop goes the leader. 

Bye.

nuevowavo

mustang190 said:

His political correctness will never let him post the real answer!  

I got it!
They almost all have a higher percentage of Muslims in their population than the U.S, by at least a factor of 2 (except Iceland and New Zealand).
What do I win?

surfman

And soon they will be looking to us to rescue them from themselves again.

mustang190

nuevowavo said:

mustang190 said:

His political correctness will never let him post the real answer!  

I got it!
They almost all have a higher percentage of Muslims in their population than the U.S, by at least a factor of 2 (except Iceland and New Zealand).
What do I win?

A participation trophy. 
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