Marathon fishing advice

Hi guys I am new to the forum. I will be heading to marathon for a week and we will be renting a boat, my family and I have been 6 times before and have fishing experience at the patch reefs and other areas, but we have never been during the summer. We always went near thanksgiving or Easter. I was hoping to obtain any advice in fishing that time of year, we will only be fishing inside or at the outer reef. I love patch reef fishing and would love any additional information, you can never have enough information. Also, where are decent areas to throw net pilchards and mullet? Thank you for the help :smile:

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  • Billfish3Billfish3 Posts: 11 Greenhorn

    It has been a while, but we have sabikid pinfish just outside the hotel on the gulf side and filled the livewell, bought several blocks of chum and a few dozen shrimp, sat over the legal areas outside sombrero light and flatlined for yellowtail while dropping to the bottom with the pinfish.

    When are you going in the summer? We will be heading back again end of June through July 3rd.

    Bill

  • gkdevon1gkdevon1 PasadenaPosts: 18 Greenhorn

    We are going the 2nd to 3rd week of june, the problem is we have a group of 10 people and we generally go out on the boat for the day. My dad, uncle, and I usually go out and fish every morning from sunrise to about 10:00 when the wind allows. That's why we stick to patch reefs, but if the outer edge is better we are willing to get up really early one or two mornings to try that. Thanks for the help. I have heard that mangroves are spawning at that time, but I really don't know much about that.

  • Billfish3Billfish3 Posts: 11 Greenhorn

    Have done very well on some nightime mangrove trips in the summer. We were anchored up and Sabiki'd pilchards and then snout hook them and cast back out on a short shot of fluoro, little to no weight.

  • AOKRVsAOKRVs Posts: 1,706 Captain

    Hard to net pilchards in the summer - they go to deeper water
    take plenty of chum - best buy @ Smith auto - 1 block west of vaca cut
    also Big Time next door has chum and live shrimp
    If you can get offshore on a clam day there will be Mahi around
    sometimes weedlines form a mile or two off the reef
    Mangrove spawn is usually in July - week or so before mini season

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  • Andyman33Andyman33 Posts: 119 Deckhand

    yea if you get out early you should head offshore and work a few weedlines for a few hours and catch some mahi - leave by 6 and you'll be out there by 7 catch a few nice fish and head back to be with the family a hero :)

  • gkdevon1gkdevon1 PasadenaPosts: 18 Greenhorn

    Catching some mahi would be awesome!! What type of bait would we need and where is the best place to get it? Also we mainly have medium and medium heavy rods with 2500-4000 size reels on them as we fish light tackle in the Chesapeake. Is that enough to handle mahi? WE do have one big spinning setup for bottom fishing and 4 trolling rods for heavier reef fishing.

  • Andyman33Andyman33 Posts: 119 Deckhand

    You could get away with it. We use 20 lb mono for trolling. Just upgraded to tld25. Get a few plugs and troll those. And buy some rigged ballyhoo from the bait shop and consider putting a skirt on them

  • piner_wahoopiner_wahoo Posts: 3,060 Captain

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  • KlingerKlinger Posts: 1,663 Captain

    @piner_wahoo said:
    call me

    What he said. Best money you can spend is to go with or have someone that does this every day go with you to show you how it's done. Even if you have fished an area before, different tactics are often required for different seasons or conditions. I do pretty well in the bay during the summer, but patch reef fishing is pretty much a nighttime activity during the hot months

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  • SteelhullerSteelhuller Posts: 23 Greenhorn

    @AOKRVs said:
    Hard to net pilchards in the summer - they go to deeper water
    take plenty of chum - best buy @ Smith auto - 1 block west of vaca cut
    also Big Time next door has chum and live shrimp
    If you can get offshore on a clam day there will be Mahi around
    sometimes weedlines form a mile or two off the reef
    Mangrove spawn is usually in July - week or so before mini season

    Is there any good places before or in Marathon for Chum blocks? I wanted to buy a weeks worth before hitting the rental. I had also wanted to try Tarpon on the outgoing, where's a good place for crabs?

  • AOKRVsAOKRVs Posts: 1,706 Captain

    Smith Auto for chum
    Most shops will have crabs try
    Marathon Bait and Tackle across from City Park

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  • Andyman33Andyman33 Posts: 119 Deckhand

    Smith auto is best of the best

  • piner_wahoopiner_wahoo Posts: 3,060 Captain

    rent a bigger boat

    28' SEA VEE BRAND NEW 200 SUZUKI's- LIVE BAIT OFFSHORE WRECKS DEEP DROP REEFS BACKCOUNTRY
    CUSTOM CHARTERS u pick the boat- Capt.Harlan Trammell
    American Allegiance Charters -LOWER KEYS BACKCOUNTRY FISHING,LOBSTER dives, fish the 33' WORLDCAT w/ AOK+Allegiance!
    your boat or mine, my spots+my gear, your fish.
    305.394.7400
    BIG WAHOO
    checkout our new website- http://www.american-allegiance-charters.com/
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  • Soda PopinskiSoda Popinski GrovelandPosts: 8,543 Admiral

    @AOKRVs said:
    Smith Auto for chum
    Most shops will have crabs try
    Marathon Bait and Tackle across from City Park

    Monty what makes them better for Chum than any other place? I bought a case in key largo last year on my way down. Tournament chum w menhaden oil. Smith Auto sells fuel as well correct?

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  • Andyman33Andyman33 Posts: 119 Deckhand

    smith has best price on case of chum which is the good stuff. plus the guy is a good guy and has other frozen baits at good prices too -- and best onwater gas prices i've seen

  • gkdevon1gkdevon1 PasadenaPosts: 18 Greenhorn

    Thanks for the guide recommendations, I would love to go with a guide but it is a vacation for my high school graduation with family and we don't have the luxury of taking a whole day for my dad, uncle, and I to go fishing when we have a group of 10 people. We just have at most 5 hours in the morning or possibly most of a day if last minute my uncles family wants to go to theater by the sea or something. They have only been once and my family have been 6 times so we have done those things already. Good to know about the chum at smith auto because we have gotten gas there the past few trips since their prices are so good. Is it really true that patch reef fishing isn't good in the summer as Klinger said? After our previous experience in spring and fall I just find it hard to believe that fishing wouldn't bee good at the patches.

  • KlingerKlinger Posts: 1,663 Captain

    Didn't say it wasn't good, but that the best patch reef fishing in the summer months is at night :)

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  • msk99msk99 Posts: 285 Deckhand
    Do any boat rental places in Marathon allow you to venture out at night?  I'd love to hit the patch reef at night, but the rental company I've used in the past forbids boat use at night.
  • Soda PopinskiSoda Popinski GrovelandPosts: 8,543 Admiral
    edited February 21 #20
    Andyman33 said:

    smith has best price on case of chum which is the good stuff. plus the guy is a good guy and has other frozen baits at good prices too -- and best onwater gas prices i've seen

    Thanks, i'll check em out this trip.  I didn't care for trying to tie off at Capt Hooks, place was always hopping and one day the current was a PIA.   

    and @Klinger
     we fished the patch reefs at night and all i got were grunts that evening.   We freelined a pilchard for the king in my profile pic.  But we never got any snapper.  We'll try again though. 
    People use statistics the way a drunk uses a street light, for support rather than illumination.
  • gkdevon1gkdevon1 PasadenaPosts: 18 Greenhorn
    Thank you, if we have a free night, and the rental company allows us take the boat out past dark i would love to give night time patch reef fishing a try. 
  • suprastevesuprasteve Posts: 101 Deckhand
    I'm pretty sure if you read the contract close enough, you aren't allowed to operate a rental boat at all...
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