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Mark O.Mark O. Posts: 3,448 Captain

I like cats but it's getting out of hand. I read there are over 10 million feral cats in Florida. I trapped two big males and took them to a Trap-neuter-return vet here in Jax. Not sure if that's going to keep them from spraying urine around our place, but it's the first try. Second try may be more permanent. I don't want to kill them but they are truly vermin at this point. I think there's also a grey area between 100% feral and someone's "pet" they feed, but over-wise let roam without being neutered.

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  • mplspugmplspug Posts: 16,014 AG

    I hate people who let their cats out n purpose. Feral cats are annoying as well, but it's not their fault.

    It's a gray area too, because there is a cat that hangs out on our fence once and a while. He helps thin the rats.

    Just dropping grenades in OT
  • I've trapped a couple and gave them to the spay , neuter folks. Once I found out they were releasing them I went to another plan...
    I will bring them small kittens sometimes , but if it's full grown and hisses at me , Toast...

    Killin and Grillin :grin
  • stc1993stc1993 Posts: 10,630 AG

    It's bad at the Apalachicola bridge too. they use to be every where people would put out dishpans of food & feed them.

  • Split ShotSplit Shot Posts: 6,193 Admiral

    @stc1993 said:
    It's bad at the Apalachicola bridge too. they use to be every where people would put out dishpans of food & feed them.

    In Apalach?

  • GA FinGA Fin Posts: 8,945 Admiral

    Outside cats put a hurting on wild birds.
    I have a couple outside cats running around my new place. They will be eradicated when I finish the build and move in.
    I rely on snakes to control the rats/mice.

    Straight white male living a life of privilege and proud of it.


    "The greatest pleasure is to vanquish your enemies and chase them before you, to rob them of their wealth and see those dear to them bathed in tears, to ride their horses and clasp to your bosom their wives and daughters."
  • stc1993stc1993 Posts: 10,630 AG

    @Split Shot said:

    @stc1993 said:
    It's bad at the Apalachicola bridge too. they use to be every where people would put out dishpans of food & feed them.

    In Apalach?

    on The Magnolia Bluff side Appalach is on the other side of the bridge.

  • Major WaderMajor Wader Posts: 641 Officer

    I hate feral cats, and think they all should get a lead injection.

    They suck, and I hate the trap/spay/release deal, because it just perpetuates the problem. The lead injection would stop them from breeding permanently.

    There used to be several forward looking states who advised hunters that they are SUPPOSED to kill feral cats, but a lot of that has been squashed by the new stupidity regarding their "right to exist. It's a friggin feral cat.

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  • woodsrunnerwoodsrunner Posts: 2,235 Captain

    Feral cats are a problem in certain areas of the state, (suburban areas are hard hit) and once the situation gets out of hand it can be devastating on local wildlife i.e. birds and small mammals. Coyotes, as much as these exotics are hated, can and will keep feral house cats in check. The Coyote's diet is about 85% small mammals like rats, mice, possums (to a small degree) large insects and FERAL CATS and about 15% injured larger animals such as Whitetails and road kills.

  • CountryBumpkinCountryBumpkin Posts: 1,893 Captain

    I was told if feral cats are giving you a headache......the cure is go to the store and get canned tuna and powdered aspirin. >:)

  • mplspugmplspug Posts: 16,014 AG

    I hate people who let their cats out n purpose. Feral cats are annoying as well, but it's not their fault.

    It's a gray area too, because there > @GA Fin said:

    Outside cats put a hurting on wild birds.
    I have a couple outside cats running around my new place. They will be eradicated when I finish the build and move in.
    I rely on snakes to control the rats/mice.

    I wish I could rely on snakes but the neighbors kill hem because they are idiots.

    Just dropping grenades in OT
  • ANUMBER1ANUMBER1 Posts: 13,177 AG
    I am glad to only be a bird hunter with bird dogs...being a shooter or dog handler or whatever other niche exists to separate appears to generate far too much about which to worry.
  • AC ManAC Man Posts: 7,312 Admiral

    When I was a kid we had a indoor outdoor cat. Not feral.Raised from a purchased kitten. Don't remember her killing any birds in her 18 year life. She did bring us a rat home to show off. She also kicked every dogs **** from a poodle to a German shepherd in the hood. Every dog feared her and she never got a scratch from any takers.

    This is back in the 60's and 70's before leash laws.

  • Here in Hillsborough County after they neuter them they want you to release them right back where you caught them.
    Sure, I am going to do that.

    THERE SHOULD BE NO COMMERCIAL FISHING ALLOWED FOR ANY SPECIES THAT IS CONSIDERED OVERFISHED.
  • Mark O.Mark O. Posts: 3,448 Captain

    I realize there are anti- and pro- sides and agendas, but I don't think it's malarkey. From what I've read, it's really gotten out of balance in Australia. https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/extinction-countdown/worst-invasive-predators/

    My personal beef with the high number of feral cats is them spraying urine to mark their territory. I walk outside and it hits me in the face...on my front door, boat, and car. One sprayed my windshield so the smell was coming through the vents while driving. I did take a couple of the males to our T-N-R program, so we'll see if that helps, but I'm sure there are many more ready to take their place. I think culling is the answer...humane shots of a sufficient caliber to quickly kill them, however being in urban areas make this problematic as well.

  • GardawgGardawg Posts: 16,775 AG
    edited January 2018 #16

    Shark Bait

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  • GA FinGA Fin Posts: 8,945 Admiral

    @ferris1248 said:

    Once they are neutered, why not let them back out? They aren't going to produce anymore. They keep the rodent population down and the malarkey about wild birds is just that, malarkey. Birds and cats have existed on this earth for thousands of years. Nature keeps it's own balance.

    Are you being obtuse?

    Straight white male living a life of privilege and proud of it.


    "The greatest pleasure is to vanquish your enemies and chase them before you, to rob them of their wealth and see those dear to them bathed in tears, to ride their horses and clasp to your bosom their wives and daughters."
  • Florida BullfrogFlorida Bullfrog Posts: 4,847 Captain
    edited January 2018 #18

    @ferris1248 said:
    Not at all.

    90% of neutered male cats do not spray and if they do the odor is greatly reduced.

    Its not whether they spray that's a big deal. Its the fact that they devastate wildlife and for no reason but their pleasure/instinct. For thousands of years the primary utility of a domestic cat was to kill small animals in a given area in order to control pests. The last 50 years of that purpose being minimized as use of cats has shifted to them being companion animals instead of utility animals hasn't eliminated those genes.

    They absolutely devastate birds, reptiles, and amphibians. That's a scientific fact:

    https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms2380

    That doesn't make them evil. But it does make them a problem to be dealt with.

    Unfortunately, feral cats (as in, genetically domestic cats that live wild) are not currently classified as wildlife in the same way feral hogs are. That means the FWC has no jurisdiction over them unless and until the FWC and Legislature gets together to decide they are in fact wildlife. Then the FWC could set hunting regulations for them.

    SSS.

  • SaltygatorvetSaltygatorvet Posts: 5,807 Admiral
    edited January 2018 #19

    @CountryBumpkin said:
    I was told if feral cats are giving you a headache......the cure is go to the store and get canned tuna and powdered aspirin. >:)

    That’s terrible. Poisoning is a terrible way to kill something. It’s trulu inhumane and cruel. A death euth in needed suffering. Especially since you can’t conrrol what eats it. Could be the neighbors little girls cat that got out. Please no one do this. I don’t advocate shooting them either, but at least ( in most cases) it’s quick and you know which cat your killing

    You should have been here yesterday
  • CountryBumpkinCountryBumpkin Posts: 1,893 Captain

    People been poisoning vermin for control, forever. Feral cats are vermin.
    I understand they are probably a "cash cow" for some vets, but they are still vermin. :)

  • CountryBumpkinCountryBumpkin Posts: 1,893 Captain

    @Florida Bullfrog said:

    Its not whether they spray that's a big deal. Its the fact that they devastate wildlife and for no reason but their pleasure/instinct. For thousands of years the primary utility of a domestic cat was to kill small animals in a given area in order to control pests. The last 50 years of that purpose being minimized as use of cats has shifted to them being companion animals instead of utility animals hasn't eliminated those genes.

    They absolutely devastate birds, reptiles, and amphibians. That's a scientific fact:

    >
    Stop using facts.........it just confuses the "bleeding hearts". :)

  • SaltygatorvetSaltygatorvet Posts: 5,807 Admiral
    edited January 2018 #22

    @CountryBumpkin said:
    People been poisoning vermin for control, forever. Feral cats are vermin.
    I understand they are probably a "cash cow" for some vets, but they are still vermin. :)

    I can assure you no veterinarian is getting rich off of feral cats, in fact most lose money. Almost al pro bono work

    You should have been here yesterday
  • ANUMBER1ANUMBER1 Posts: 13,177 AG

    @Saltygatorvet said:

    @CountryBumpkin said:
    People been poisoning vermin for control, forever. Feral cats are vermin.
    I understand they are probably a "cash cow" for some vets, but they are still vermin. :)

    I can assure you no veterinarian is getting rich off of feral cats, in fact most lose money. Almost al pro bono work

    why not put them down?

    I am glad to only be a bird hunter with bird dogs...being a shooter or dog handler or whatever other niche exists to separate appears to generate far too much about which to worry.
  • dave44dave44 Posts: 18,975 AG

    Because , vet lives matter?

  • Nick NikonNick Nikon Posts: 5,011 Admiral

    @ferris1248 said:

    @Mackeral Snatcher said:
    the malarkey about wild birds is just that, malarkey. Birds and cats have existed on this earth for thousands of years. Nature keeps it's own balance.

    The proof is in the video.

    There have been recent studies of cats using critter-cams.

    They do significant damage to native songbirds.

    End of story.

  • @ferris1248 said:

    @Mackeral Snatcher said:
    Here in Hillsborough County after they neuter them they want you to release them right back where you caught them.
    Sure, I am going to do that.

    Once they are neutered, why not let them back out? They aren't going to produce anymore. They keep the rodent population down and the malarkey about wild birds is just that, malarkey. Birds and cats have existed on this earth for thousands of years. Nature keeps it's own balance.

    Sure I'll just bring them back to my house :)
    No, the ones I caught...........In humane traps BTW were relocated to a park far from my house.(Hawks and Eagles gotta eat too) :)

    THERE SHOULD BE NO COMMERCIAL FISHING ALLOWED FOR ANY SPECIES THAT IS CONSIDERED OVERFISHED.
  • ANUMBER1ANUMBER1 Posts: 13,177 AG

    I relocated many of the neighbors 30 or so cats to a preserve..

    An aquatic preserve. B)

    I am glad to only be a bird hunter with bird dogs...being a shooter or dog handler or whatever other niche exists to separate appears to generate far too much about which to worry.
  • Walker DogWalker Dog Posts: 2,155 Captain

    Maybe if u neutered all of them. Highly unlikely that happened though. If not all you did is made more work for the un-neutered male ferall cats. I'm sure they than you.

  • mindyabinessmindyabiness Posts: 8,016 Admiral

    @Mackeral Snatcher said:

    @ferris1248 said:

    @Mackeral Snatcher said:
    Here in Hillsborough County after they neuter them they want you to release them right back where you caught them.
    Sure, I am going to do that.

    Once they are neutered, why not let them back out? They aren't going to produce anymore. They keep the rodent population down and the malarkey about wild birds is just that, malarkey. Birds and cats have existed on this earth for thousands of years. Nature keeps it's own balance.

    Sure I'll just bring them back to my house :)
    No, the ones I caught...........In humane traps BTW were relocated to a park far from my house.(Hawks and Eagles gotta eat too) :)

    Hawks won't take a full sized cat, maybe a kitten... and eagles feed primarily on fish.....Coyotes will take a cat, especially if the yotes are in a pack. Coyotes are very efficient, they leave nothing.

    This is a problem that is solved on an individual basis and should not be discussed.....S.S.S.is the best policy when it comes to dealing with problem cats. There is no pride to be had by killing a stray or someones pet that is making your life difficult, you do it and you don't speak of it.

    The neighbor is not going to change habits and cats cannot be trained to stay out of your garage.
    There is a responsibility to be efficient in your methods. Poisoning is stupid, it does not discriminate and will often result in regret.

    Arguing with idiots is like playing chess with a pigeon... No matter how good you are, the bird is going to crap on the board and strut around like it won anyway.
    I AM NOT A RACIST
  • So...The Woods are full of Ball less Cats...Interesting...Who Knew ?,

    Killin and Grillin :grin
  • CountryBumpkinCountryBumpkin Posts: 1,893 Captain
    edited January 2018 #31

    Discrimination has nothing to do with it. It's all about selectivity.

    If I put it in the trash can and put the lid back on, then I have selectively chosen that only the vermin that have been hauling my trash all over the block are recipients. Nothing indiscriminate about that. :)

    I will admit that it might end in regret. For the garbage thief.

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