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McElwain about to fired?
CBS and ESPN are reporting that UF officials are meeting to fire McElwain with cause for the death threat reports. The sources claim UF can fire him and not pay the buyout.
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With the amount of money they get from football, if they want to fire him then pay the man his contract for God's sake.
It's not WHAT you can do, but what you SHOULD do.
That might be all well and good but where do we go from here?
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Shannon would take over as interim coach. As the next coach, I think they should look at PJ Fleck before another big school grabs hum.
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Oh I understand how it works, but there are very few options out there if you are truly concerned about winning an NC ever again. There probably isn't 5 college coaches today who are able to do so. And no one even in the close running as Saban. But Smart will give him all he wants this season.
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Fleck can recruit. He had the number one recruiting class at Western Michigan three years in a row. Took them from 1-11 to 12-0 in three years and got them in the top 25 for the first time in history. He did move to Michigan in January as head coach, but i think he would come to Florida. I heard Oregon was also interested in him, so he might go there.
Others being mentioned in news reports are (kind of funny, McElwain isn't fired yet but the news is listing possible replacements) Scott Frost, Dan Mullins (Stricklin is from Mississippi State), Matt Campbell, and about a dozen more.
If U.F. wants to get rid of McElwain, now is the perfect time. they have a legitimate reason and plenty of time to get a new coach hired and ready for recruiting season.
I don't know if Chip Kelly would be a good choice myself, but I think he woulds bring in some 5 star recruits due to fact he was an NFL coach.
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I also think it is a raw deal if they don't buy McElwain out. If they don't what message are you sending to the potential coaches you are going after. It is a catch 22 situation I know but pay the man his due. He really isn't that bad of a coach, he just hasn't been able to find a QB that can run the show since dufus got suspended for doing roids!
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i disagree about his coaching ability. I didn't like the hire to begin with. McElewain's biggest problem is he quit calling the plays and delegated it to someone else. He was an offensive coach ho isn't producing an offense. I also think he is in over his head. He knows the job is too much for him at this point and is looking for an out without having to pay his required buyout money.
My bet is, he wants out of the contract as much as U.F. wants him gone. I doubt he is fired without some part of his buyout, but he isn't getting 100% of it. I think they will negotiate some agreement and he leaves before South Carolina. He made up the death threat story just to provoke this issue.
The message they are sending is, don't lie just because things are going bad. Be honest and do your **** job.
But that is just my opinion.
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he didn't get rid of Nussmier after last season and replace him with a younger more innovative play caller
he never fixed the offensive line, which he said he did and imo was his biggest failing
he didn't create a stable quarter back situation, the constant changes didn't work out
all reports point to UF wanting him gone even before last night's debacle, and the coaching search continues
The O-line is light years ahead of the last few years. That is not the problem. Calling the same three plays the entire game is the problem. A pee wee league coach can defense that after 10 minutes. In order to keep the defense honest so to speak, you have to run when you are supposed to pass, pass when you are supposed to run, and go play action, and rpo early and often. I do agree he should have canned Nuss last season and that would have helped, but 10 kids doing youthful stupidity things and letting the entire team down, that is not on him. But as you well see it effects him and the entire team. I am not saying keep him, or let him go. What I am saying is a man is worthy of his hire. Pay him what you said you would and do the honorable thing if you do let him go. The simple facts are, they're not mad he lied. They are mad he isn't winning, plain and simple. So if you cut him lose, pay the man his worth!
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I think administration is absolutely upset he lied. And about loosing
I agree, I doubt they would be discussing firing him except for the lying. He might have been fired after next year, depending on how things went. But his job is on the line due to the remarks he made.
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I have no doubt, and rightfully so. That is nothing you joke about for sure. But losing is eating them up big time. Just look at FSU, one really poor season and they are ready to hang him up from the flag pole on top of the stadium. It is no longer about teaching younguns about life's lessons. It is about winning at all costs.
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http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/florida-gators/os-sp-gators-georgia-mike-bianchi-1029-story.html
For Jim McElwain, this was likely the World’s Largest Outdoor Going-Away Party.
Speaking in a resigned and acquiescent tone after his Florida Gators were destroyed 42-7 by Georgia on Saturday, the coach left little doubt that this could be his sad, surreal sendoff.
“At the end of the day, I was brought here to win and we haven’t done enough of it,” McElwain said after being peppered with questions about the rumblings that UF athletics director Scott Stricklin could make a coaching change as soon as Sunday.
“I know what I was brought here to do. We haven’t been good on offense, I get it. We’ve won a few games, but we haven’t won enough. We haven’t won a championship. That’s real; that’s this business.”
This bizarre week started with McElwain talking about getting death threats, and it ends with what feels like a coaching funeral procession out of Jacksonville.
Except I don’t believe McElwain’s explanation that his seemingly inevitable demise will be based on wins and losses. Otherwise, why would word of his possible dismissal have started leaking out before the game against Georgia? That’s when sports agent Darren Heitner tweeted out that UF was trying to negotiate a buyout with McElwain.
Stricklin responded with a statement in which he said there have been no conversations “regarding a buyout of [McElwain’s] contract.” Probably because UF isn’t planning to buy out McElwain and the five years and $12.9 million he has left on his contract. The Gators are likely going to attempt to fire him with cause because he refused to answer his employers’ questions about the death threats and led UF’s administration to believe he fabricated the unsubstantiated threats.
Hard as it is to believe, McElwain’s seemingly imminent dismissal has little to do with the Gators’ abysmal performance against the Bulldogs.
Of course, it certainly doesn’t help that Georgia coach Kirby Smart has built the Dawgs into a national championship contender in only his second season while McElwain’s Gators — in the words of late, great Gainesvillian Tom Petty — are in a state of “Free Fallin.”
I believe McElwain’s downfall at UF is not so much because he’s a bad coach, but more because he’s a bad employee. He comes from the Nick Saban coaching tree and that’s one of his problems. He has the arrogance of Nick Saban but the résumé of Lou Saban.
The most recent evidence of this started on Monday during McElwain’s weekly news conference when the coach — without prompting — nebulously broached the issue of death threats being issued to him, his family and his players.
This was a complete shock to Stricklin, who apparently was livid that McElwain dropped this bombshell on the media without bothering to tell UF’s administration. Then, when McElwain was not forthcoming with information on the death threats, UF threw McElwain under the bus with a brusque statement that oddly revealed McElwain “provided no additional details.”
The reason UF was so angry is two-fold. First, if there were death threats to players and UF’s administration did nothing to protect them, the Gators could be legally liable for a mega-million-dollar wrongful death lawsuit. Second, if McElwain exaggerated the death threats or made them up entirely, then he effectively painted UF’s entire fan base as a bunch of blood-thirsty lunatics who threaten to kill their coaches and players at the first sign of adversity.
Seriously, what recruit’s parent is going to want to send their kid to a place where his life will be threatened if he drops a key pass or misses a crucial block?
McElwain compounded the issue when he told the media during another news conference later in the week that he would offer more details about the death threats “when it becomes unmanageable.”
As if there is ever a manageable death threat.
But this is about more than McElwain’s comments about death threats; it’s about his relationships with his UF superiors and colleagues. Believe me, if his bosses liked him, they would find a reason to keep him. But since they dislike him, they have found a reason to ditch him.
Let’s face it, on performance alone, he probably deserves one more year — despite getting destroyed by Georgia Saturday. He has, after all, taken UF to the SEC Championship Game in each of his first two seasons — albeit with teams that have been perennially pathetic on offense. Still, there’s no question he would get next season to turn around the program if he weren’t so unpopular.
Former Florida athletics director Jeremy Foley built the Gators into an all-sports giant by building an all-for-one, one-for-all atmosphere among the coaches in football, basketball, volleyball, gymnastics and UF’s other highly successful programs.
But McElwain marched into UF’s athletic complex like he owned the place. He rubbed his superiors the wrong way immediately, complaining publicly about the facilities, questioning the school’s commitment to excellence and essentially denigrating the administration.
Ultimately, Jim McElwain’s downfall at UF will be his ego, not his offense.
When the end ultimately comes, it will be because his win total simply could not overcome his arrogance level.
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Trust me I am still baffled at their amount of play, or lack thereof. It boggles my mind, especially when you see how he has recruited over the last umpteen seasons. I can not fathom it personally. Can't wrap my head around it.
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Jimbo hasn't been the same since he caught his wife with a gator bleep in her mouth.
I guess I'm glad mac only has a 12 million dollar buyout. We could pull that off. Jimbo has a 40 million dollar buyout. Good luck with that if you want to make a change.
Oh, we can afford it. We built own stadium with booster money, not taxpayer money. But, it would be stupid to pay him if he lied on the job.
If we want him gone, the money will be there
I thought it was pretty shady how FSU did Bobby. Lots went on behind his back
Following last night’s 42-7 loss to Georgia to drop the Gators to 3-4 on the season, Florida and Jim McElwain parted ways this morning, sources told FootballScoop on Sunday.
The Gators have lost three in a row to LSU, Texas A&M, and UGA after starting the season 3-1. Those three wins came against Tennessee, Kentucky, and Vanderbilt.
Earlier this week, McElwain was the subject of criticism after he made comments about receiving death threats, and when asked to give some more details, was reportedly unable to. Yesterday, rumors began to swirl about McElwain’s future and Florida exploring the possibility of firing him with cause, and AD Scott Stricklin attempted to quiet them almost immediately.
McElwain’s Gators won the SEC East in each of his first two seasons in Gainesville; but his offenses never were able to find their footing.
Stay tuned to The Scoop for more details as they become available.
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You might want to read this article from 2015
http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/sports/wp/2015/11/23/running-up-the-bills/?utm_term=.6e1f9035aa73
Your boys have never been in league with the Gators as far as fund raising goes.
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I never said Foley made wise spending decisions. We can agree on that. I've said on here Foley was cheap.
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I am getting sick of football in general, whiny entitled athletes, and now whiny entitled coaches..
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