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Yellowstone/Grand Teton Trip (picture intensive!)

I bet you thought I forgot, didn't you Ferris?

After a lot of time looking at, sorting through, saving and uploading pictures I've managed to get them all uploaded (some really good, some not so but included for the documentation/narrative of the trip). I'm sure by the time that I complete this post, I'll have 20+ hours in looking through pics and typing this up but in the end, it will be worth it! So here we go for our week in Wyoming...

We arrived on Saturday night and found that most of Jackson, WY shuts down relatively early. Few restaurants server food much past 9PM and if they do they switch to a 'bar' menu. We first ate at Sidewinders in Jackson. The food 'bar' food (slice of pizza and their sidewinder pretzel) was delicious, especially the pretzel! Fresh baked and AMAZING!

Sundary started our first day of learning the area and we stayed in Grand Teton National Park after getting a late start. Fortunately the late start was what we needed as it was cloudy/foggy most mornings. By the time we got to Mormon Row near Antelope Flats the clouds and fog were starting to lift, albeit slowly. Here's our pics from Mormon Row:

DSLR Pics

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The wife and I Grand Teton Turnout

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Next we went for a hike on a trail around Jenny Lake to Hidden Falls. It was about a 3 mile hike and wasn't all that bad, at least for the one of us that has been going to the gym and is in 'mountain' shape still

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iPhone pic on the drive through Grand Teton

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Later in the day we made it by the Church of Transfiguration. This was one of my must sees on the trip

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Later we saw this guy. It's a bit blurry but if you look close you'll see the elk to the left of the tree. He was MASSIVE and had a 2' drop tine! I just didn't have my SLR at my side like I should have (that was a learning lesson for me) but the wife snapped this

Monday we got a bit of an early start to make it to Lamar Valley at daylight...

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We crossed Dunraven Pass at sunrise

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Then ran across this guy that managed to hang tight for a nice silhouette photo

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We managed to make to Lamar Valley right after sunrise (iPhone)

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The bison were thick in Lamar Valley

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I just like this old bull for some reason

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Traffic must halt for a morning snack...

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We left Lamar Valley for the Mammoth area. Along the way we ran into these gals

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And this guy was in tow

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Then we arrived at Mammoth. The first thing you see, other than all of the hot springs beside the town, were the handful of cow elk in the yards. More on that later; on to the hot springs first...

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Wife and I (iPhone)

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DSLR

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Looking back towards the town from atop one of the boardwalk lookouts

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As I said, there were elk hanging out around town...

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This guy went and blocked the dining hall for breakfast - Rangers wouldn't let you get anywhere close to him given it is currently the elk rut

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He obviously had a long night with the ladies while the town was sleeping

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We left Mammoth headed back toward Canyon Country and ran across these ladies

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This gal let us get really close to capture this shot

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And when it's cropped in to just her eye, it's pretty cool that 1) you can see the Jeep reflection in her eye and 2) you can actually see inside her eye

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Some more of the Rocky Mountain Bighorn Ewes (never did see a ram)

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Headed back to Canyon Country looking at Dunrave Pass - unfortunately I didn't realize there was trash on the lens causing artifacts in the overcast sky...

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After lunch we climbed up to Mt. Washburn's summit. Started at 8,800' feet and climbed to 10,248'. The wife did it, but I'm not sure how happy she was with me afterwards (or the next mornings!)

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We have to hike to the peak behind her, and beyond...

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Some iPhone pics as we climb to the peak

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A view back towards Hayden Valley - we're not to the summit yet...

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Still hiking... (iPhone)

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Size 11 boot - not sure how old that track is, but it can't be that old...!

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Still working on getting to the top...

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Still climbing - have to get to that peak and around and up a bit higher to the mountain you can't see

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Just keep climbing, just keep climbing...

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A [DSLR] pic from the summit. It was too windy and cold at the top to want to take the phone out of the pocket or get much more than this. I'd guess it was probably 28-30* with 40mph winds that would blow you, and the snow drifts, around a bit.

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Later when we got to Hayden Valley, this is looking back to the top of Mt. Washburn with my 300mm DSLR lens

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Hiking out we ran into a few white tailed ptarmigan. This is the only good pic that I got from that

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After we got back down the mountain (2:45 hike up, 1:30 hike down) we went and sat at Hayden Valley where the grizzly and wolves were being seen recently. After about an hour sit I was the first to catch the grizzly coming out of the trees and everyone looked at me crazy as I was setting up the spotting scope, phoneskope and phone to get some pics. Unfortunately it was raining and I don't have many decent pics of this big bear

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After that we decided to head back to the hotel as dark was closing in. But, along the way, the wife asked me about the dark spot on the side of one of the hills so I stopped. It was only this guy

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But as we sit there, she spots a Cow/Calf elk pair up higher to the left. So I decided to start glassing the rest of the hills around. Ended up finding a bull elk and some cows that showed themselves momentarily before disappearing. I later found the lone bull leaving the cows shortly before the wife asked me what was up on top of that other hill...

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At this point it's getting pretty dark. But there were 15 of the wolves from the Hayden Valley wolf pack, that I could count, sitting on the hill. Next thing I know the wife is telling me there are some elk running down low. Before we know it, the wolf pack is in hot pursuit of the 3 cows and a calf! They chased 3 of the 4 into the Yellowstone River and just say on the hill, maybe 150-200 yards from us, watching the elk. They never did catch them but it was a really cool experience to watch the wolves hunting the elk down!

When we got up on Tuesday, the weather was a bit worse and there was expected snow/rain so we took our time getting moving towards Yellowstone. We stopped for this foggy/cloudy mountain shot

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However when we arrived at Yellowstone, the view changed drastically

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The South entrance was closed until around noon so we took the time to take some pics along the Snake River close to the south gate while waiting on snow plows to finish clearing roads

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The entrance finally opened around noon and we managed to get in and were greeted with scattered snow/sun throughout the day. We were first greeted by this group near Yellowstone Lake

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This was a view at Yellowstone Lake. Sunny where we were, clear(ish) across the lake in the Absarokas and a bit snowy further north

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Caught this heard crossing the Yellowstone River

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The Yellowstone Grand Canyon

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It was a bit snowy at the upper falls

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We only did the Grand Canyon/Upper/Lower Falls as the snow was pretty bad. We decided to get out of there before they closed the roads and we were forced to do a 4 hour detour to get to where we were staying. On the way out, we stopped back by Hayden Valley, where the bear was the night before. A bit of a difference 19 hours later!

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This is the same bison on the same knob that caused us to stop the night before and end up seeing the wolves.

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The drive out was a bit...interesting...for a guy that's never driven in the snow before. It, honestly, wasn't as bad as I expected except when the person in fron slammed on the brakes to pull abruptly into a turnout!

Wednesday inside Yellowstone was a bit more of the same so we hit the National Elk Refuge while waiting on the park to open up. Started with the ducks. I need more practive with photographing the feathered variety. Most of these aren't that good...

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Miller House inside the Elk Refuge looking back towards Grand Teton. Sunny in Jackson Hole, Snowy up north!

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Found a few pronghorn while riding around

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The Grand Tetons slowly clearing

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We finally got into Yellowstone around Noon and went straight for Old Faithfull. A bit of a difficult thing to photograph with little to no contrast

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The next thing I wanted to see was Grand Prismatic - a bit of a disappointment when the water is so hot and the air so cold...

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A few other hot springs near there

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Of course these guys are all over the park...

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And the cause of Yellowstone traffic jams

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On the way out we got a close up of this lady.

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Then a few photos from the trip through Grand Teton back to the Moran Entrance

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Then we found these guys at one of the pullouts. They were probably 1000+/- yards away

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After we got moving back to the motel, we managed to spot an elk near the road. When I turned around, it wasn't just one, but two bulls! We got to watch for 15 or 20 minutes as they sparred with each other

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Thursday was our last day and the weather was forcast to be garbage again so we decided to stick with just Grand Teton National Park.

I messed up earlier in the week when I didn't stop for the trumpeter swams when they were close

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Everything inside Grand Teton was dusted from the night before, at the morning as we drove (while Jackson still only had rain). The Tetons were barely peaking through the clouds

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The further north that we drove into Grand Teton, the worse it got

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Although after we got through the Moran Entrance and close to Jackson Lake, the snow just turned to rain and quit for a little while

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I drove up where I took the winding road / Aspen frame mountain photo hoping it would have been dusted in snow - but no luck as it was just rain through there being too close to the lake. After reaching that, we turned around and headed back out and stumbled across a new bull and his cows

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Later while riding through the southern portion of the park we ended up finding this guy, with a park ranger close (crappy pic)

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Then we found a couple others up in the trees eating berries(?) out of them

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Finally, after dinner and just before dark, we found the one animal that we both wanted to see - an hour and a half before the end of the day

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I tried my best to get back in front of him for better pictures but we were already behind him and he was hot on the trail of his girlfriend. While I was stopped trying to find him, we heard a couple of elk bugling. Much to my surprise, even the wife was excited about hearing the elk and we were in hot pursuit to get as close as possible to one of those two. We ended up listening to this guy bugle on the hill above us, maybe 100 yards at the closest, for the last 30 minutes of the day.

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While the weather was cold and snowy, it was a great trip with the wife. We were both sad to see this view

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Sadly it was back to home and work...

Restaurants we ate at while there were all good! Here are the ones that I can remember:

Mangy Moose (dinner - Thanks FamilyFisher)
Sidewinders (late dinner one night)
The Bunnery for breakfast (x2)
The Gun Barrel (dinner)
The Spur (dinner)

We either didn't eat lunch because of a late breakfast or we ate inside Yellowstone, which wasn't that big of a deal and not something that I remember to much.
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  • billybobbillybob Posts: 926 Officer
    Wow. Thanks for sharing
  • Mister-JrMister-Jr Posts: 28,083 AG
    That's quite a show, it looks like a great trip. Thanks for posting pics
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  • micci_manmicci_man Somewhere in FLPosts: 14,884 AG
    Great pics and trip :hail :hail:hail

    Those ducks need to come on down :grin
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  • waterdipperwaterdipper Posts: 118 Deckhand
    Awesome pics. Thanks for posting. Brings back great memories. My family and I camped out there this Jun/July. Spent a week of our four week trip in Yellowstone/Grand Teton, by far my favorite of the National Parks.
  • tk's joytk's joy Posts: 2,490 Officer
    Great pics, great looking trip, beautiful country. Nice to look at, I'm sure wonderful to visit, but wouldn't want to live there.

    tk
  • SloughSlough S.w. Ga./ St. JamesPosts: 5,602 Admiral
    :beer
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  • jcbcpajcbcpa Posts: 2,113 Captain
    Thank you for taking the time to post that. That was awesome. Definitely gonna take that trip in the future.

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  • BayBobBayBob Posts: 865 Officer
    Fantastic! Thanks for sharing.
  • stc1993stc1993 Albany, GA Carrabelle, FLPosts: 9,110 Admiral
    Awesome vacation, Beautiful country. The cabins must be well built to still be standing & look so good.

    That's were my boss is from he still has kin folks out there. He goes every now & then.
  • GANDERGANDER Posts: 393 Deckhand
    Amazing photos! You got nearly the full buffet of charismatic megafauna! Thanks for the time spent to share them with us.
    The wolf chase and grizzly are bucket list caliber experiences. Congrats!

    Took the family out there in summer of 2007 after doing a 2-day recon tour while out there for a SCI AWLS program in '06. Did a lot of driving with short hikes at the major attractions. Had some great pics of summer landscapes and wildlife. Would love to see it firsthand in the fall.
    Headed to eastern WY for a hunt end of next week. Will try a side trip if time permits...

    Btw I think you've got a ptarmigan in that early pic rather than a ruffed grouse.

    Thanks again!
  • omegafooomegafoo Posts: 3,127 Captain
    GANDER wrote: »
    Headed to eastern WY for a hunt end of next week. Will try a side trip if time permits...

    Good luck with that and take lots of pics. Listening to and seeing the elk was killing me. I would have much rather been hunting than sight seeing. Occasionally you've got to take one from the team to keep the wife happy.
    Btw I think you've got a ptarmigan in that early pic rather than a ruffed grouse

    After digging further, I think you're right on the ptarmigan. WY seems to have white tailed ptarmigan and I've updated my post accordingly
  • FamilyfisherFamilyfisher Posts: 3,138 Captain
    Thanks for this post. We loved our trip to Jackson Hole a few years back. These photographs put mine to shame! Glad you had a good time.
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  • CranfieldCranfield Posts: 1,526 Captain
    What a great travelogue and a lasting memory for you and your wife, thanks for sharing.
    Some of those photos need to be in frames, especially the ones from the Church.
    As has been said, a lot of bucket wishes fulfilled there.
  • LiveLineLiveLine Wakulla County, FloridaPosts: 2,067 Captain
    Excellent post and pictures....thank you for taking the time to share
  • omegafooomegafoo Posts: 3,127 Captain
    Cranfield wrote: »
    Some of those photos need to be in frames, especially the ones from the Church.

    I've got quite a few that I think I want to frame. Unfortunately I think I missed a setting in my camera to help with the noise reduction as I was stepping up in ISO. I'm still tweaking a few of the grainier photos to see if I can get a better image out of them. We'll see... Nothing I can do about the blurry ones. But I'm still learning a bit more on this photography deal.
  • FlashFlash Posts: 11,685 AG
    Excellent. Always been wanting to go there.

    >>Headed back to Canyon Country looking at Dunrave Pass - unfortunately I didn't realize there was trash on the lens causing artifacts in the overcast sky... <<

    Sometimes you actually get dust on the sensor. A good way to check is to take a photo of a clear blue sky and check it for specks.

    As to ISO, there are programs like NeatImage that will help reduce noise in images. You can google that up.
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  • illinoisfishermanillinoisfisherman Posts: 5,361 Admiral
    Great vacation and super pictures. Wonderful post to say the least.
  • omegafooomegafoo Posts: 3,127 Captain
    Flash wrote: »
    Excellent. Always been wanting to go there.

    >>Headed back to Canyon Country looking at Dunrave Pass - unfortunately I didn't realize there was trash on the lens causing artifacts in the overcast sky... <<

    Sometimes you actually get dust on the sensor. A good way to check is to take a photo of a clear blue sky and check it for specks.

    As to ISO, there are programs like NeatImage that will help reduce noise in images. You can google that up.

    Thanks Flash!

    When you're ready to go, give me a shout and I'll give you everything I learned on the trip including places to stay to minimize drive time to the different areas.

    I think it was just on the lens since I cannot seem to find the artifacts in any/many of the other pictures. I've got a baseball game tonight for my son so I'll point it to the sky tonight and see what I can find. Also, photographing a harsh side light for baseball is a bear and I missed so many pictures at last night's game! :banghead

    I'll look into NeatImage. I was trying to be 100% manual including focusing, especially with the ducks, and that gave me some issues. I lost some pics there and some pics of some bison because my focus was just a little off with the large aperture setting I was using. But I suppose you won't get better unless you try, right?
  • JKPJKP Posts: 3,211 Captain
    Awesome pics. Safe to say you’d recommend Jackson Hole as a base camp for a September visit?

    Thinking about planning a trip next Sept. want to avoid crowds if possible.
  • FlashFlash Posts: 11,685 AG
    omegafoo wrote: »
    Thanks Flash!

    When you're ready to go, give me a shout and I'll give you everything I learned on the trip including places to stay to minimize drive time to the different areas.

    I think it was just on the lens since I cannot seem to find the artifacts in any/many of the other pictures. I've got a baseball game tonight for my son so I'll point it to the sky tonight and see what I can find. Also, photographing a harsh side light for baseball is a bear and I missed so many pictures at last night's game! :banghead

    I'll look into NeatImage. I was trying to be 100% manual including focusing, especially with the ducks, and that gave me some issues. I lost some pics there and some pics of some bison because my focus was just a little off with the large aperture setting I was using. But I suppose you won't get better unless you try, right?

    Well you want a bright sky, dark ones, unless just overcast will not show you anything since the dust is dark. Don't be afraid of auto focus as your eyesight is not always 100% perfect. I suffered astigmatism at one time, had to have a special set of glasses when I shot weddings, all with manual focus cameras. I would definitely use auto focus at the ball games since action is just to fast happening. This one was at those poorly lit High School ball fields at 8:30 at night, shot from over the outfield fence. 3200 ISO D7100
    Oh and to add to the sensor situation. Use a moderately wide angle lens and shoot more around F11 or so.




    The new D500 is a bear at night. This done at 6400 ISO at almost 8:30 PM
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  • FlashFlash Posts: 11,685 AG
    Also what equipment were you using camera and lens-wise and date of trip? I was suppose to be up in Maine right now, long road trip, but IRMA changed our plans and we had to cancel. I doubt I would do something like this until an RV is in the picture as the wife will not leave the pups at home.
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  • omegafooomegafoo Posts: 3,127 Captain
    Flash wrote: »
    Also what equipment were you using camera and lens-wise and date of trip?

    I've got an older D5000 and was using the kit Nikon 18-55 for the landscape photos (which doesn't accept a lens hood and I lost a couple pics to lens flares) and the new Nikon 300 f/4 PF ED (which I REALLY like) for most of the animal photos. Given the pics I produced this time, and the number of times I was constantly changing lenses on a single body, I'm considering 1) a newer FX format body and 2) something like the 24-70 f/2.8 to replace the 18-55 kit lens for my landscape photos.

    I'm leaning more towards option 1 for the first step as the price of those options is going to be about the same but I can put the 300 on one camera (FX body, most likely) and the 18-55 on the other (D5000). Then in a year or so I can look at getting that nicer 24-70 for my landscape photos. After I get to that point I'd likely look at investing into something like a 70-200 f/2.8 or f/4 for mid range. Going to take me a while to want to swallow something like a 400 f/2.8 or a 200-400 f/4 (big price difference between the two, as you know).

    All that said, this amateur is certainly open to any suggestions you might have in this regard!

    As for the date, I just got back last Friday. We flew out to WY on 9/16 and came back 9/22. I think we were about 1 week early for the color change. If I was to do a fall trip again, I might push it back one more week to see if I can get more color in the leaves. There were a couple of creeks that crossed the road lined with Aspens that I wanted to shoot with color change but it was just a bland green landscape, which I also learned I need a good ND filter (thinking Tiffen 2-8 stop) as well to get some of those nice silky water effects in my photos!
  • dstockwelldstockwell Posts: 13,819 AG
    Awesome pics.. !!
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  • FlashFlash Posts: 11,685 AG
    omegafoo wrote: »
    I've got an older D5000 and was using the kit Nikon 18-55 for the landscape photos (which doesn't accept a lens hood and I lost a couple pics to lens flares) and the new Nikon 300 f/4 PF ED (which I REALLY like) for most of the animal photos. Given the pics I produced this time, and the number of times I was constantly changing lenses on a single body, I'm considering 1) a newer FX format body and 2) something like the 24-70 f/2.8 to replace the 18-55 kit lens for my landscape photos.

    I'm leaning more towards option 1 for the first step as the price of those options is going to be about the same but I can put the 300 on one camera (FX body, most likely) and the 18-55 on the other (D5000). Then in a year or so I can look at getting that nicer 24-70 for my landscape photos. After I get to that point I'd likely look at investing into something like a 70-200 f/2.8 or f/4 for mid range. Going to take me a while to want to swallow something like a 400 f/2.8 or a 200-400 f/4 (big price difference between the two, as you know).

    All that said, this amateur is certainly open to any suggestions you might have in this regard!

    As for the date, I just got back last Friday. We flew out to WY on 9/16 and came back 9/22. I think we were about 1 week early for the color change. If I was to do a fall trip again, I might push it back one more week to see if I can get more color in the leaves. There were a couple of creeks that crossed the road lined with Aspens that I wanted to shoot with color change but it was just a bland green landscape, which I also learned I need a good ND filter (thinking Tiffen 2-8 stop) as well to get some of those nice silky water effects in my photos!

    Currently I am using a Nikon 18-70 3.5-4.5 for most of my landscape. If I need more a Sigma 10-20 4-5.6 For sports the 80-200 2.8 ED, one of Nikons best, but a non VR. For wildlife also have the 300 f4. For one all of my equipment is used bar the D500 which I bought new. I would love 2.8's for all of them but the D500 with the high ISO will help me out a lot in that area. You really want to avoid using 2.8 in most landscape shots anyway. Not sure I will ever go FX as I enjoy the extra reach the DX ones give you.
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  • SpineymanSpineyman Destin, FlPosts: 8,376 Admiral
    When were you there? What time of year?
    Kayak Rookie...and loving it.
    Fishing beautiful Destin / Ft Walton Beach area!

    II Chronicles 7:14
    if My people who are called by My name will humble themselves, and pray and seek My face, and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin and heal their land.



  • micci_manmicci_man Somewhere in FLPosts: 14,884 AG
    Spineyman wrote: »
    When were you there? What time of year?
    omegafoo wrote: »
    As for the date, I just got back last Friday. We flew out to WY on 9/16 and came back 9/22.

    he mentioned it above.
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  • omegafooomegafoo Posts: 3,127 Captain
    Flash wrote: »
    You really want to avoid using 2.8 in most landscape shots anyway.

    I'm with you there. I'd have to double check but pretty sure I shot f/22 for almost all of my landscape pics. My thinking with the 2.8, although an f/4 would do just as well up close, is that I like to take 'nice' pictures when I or my friends harvest game animals and I typically like a shallow depth of field for that.

    I did think it was funny that when I took a picture for an oriental lady with her Canon. She held her hand out behind her like she was showing something yet the aperture was wide open and you could see nothing of the landscape behind her. I took take, handed it back with a smile and told her you're welcome when she thanked me - all the while knowing the picture, while nice, was all but worthless for what she was trying to accomplish.
  • SpineymanSpineyman Destin, FlPosts: 8,376 Admiral
    micci_man wrote: »
    he mentioned it above.


    Thanks I just missed it. We just went in May of this year too. It is amazing out there, and the game is everywhere.


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    Kayak Rookie...and loving it.
    Fishing beautiful Destin / Ft Walton Beach area!

    II Chronicles 7:14
    if My people who are called by My name will humble themselves, and pray and seek My face, and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin and heal their land.



  • FlashFlash Posts: 11,685 AG
    omegafoo wrote: »
    I'm with you there. I'd have to double check but pretty sure I shot f/22 for almost all of my landscape pics. My thinking with the 2.8, although an f/4 would do just as well up close, is that I like to take 'nice' pictures when I or my friends harvest game animals and I typically like a shallow depth of field for that.

    I did think it was funny that when I took a picture for an oriental lady with her Canon. She held her hand out behind her like she was showing something yet the aperture was wide open and you could see nothing of the landscape behind her. I took take, handed it back with a smile and told her you're welcome when she thanked me - all the while knowing the picture, while nice, was all but worthless for what she was trying to accomplish.

    Yes depending on lighting, the F16-f22 setting might call for a tripod. I always make sure I have it with me or at least my mono-pod. Remember a F5.6 setting will show more depth of field on a wide angle than it will on say the 80-200 zoom.
    Standard problem for most is camera movement due to too slow of a shutter speed. If the whole picture is out of focus, camera movement. If just a part of the photo, then a focus issue.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

    Never seem more learned than the people you are with. Wear your learning like a pocket watch and keep it hidden. Do not pull it out to count the hours, but give the time when you are asked. --- Lord Chesterfield
  • omegafooomegafoo Posts: 3,127 Captain
    Flash wrote: »
    Yes depending on lighting, the F16-f22 setting might call for a tripod. I always make sure I have it with me or at least my mono-pod. Remember a F5.6 setting will show more depth of field on a wide angle than it will on say the 80-200 zoom.
    Standard problem for most is camera movement due to too slow of a shutter speed. If the whole picture is out of focus, camera movement. If just a part of the photo, then a focus issue.

    You have any recommendations on a polarizing or ND filters? I was thinking about the Tiffens. I know the the polarizing filter that came in the 'kit' with the 300 seems to blur my images. The UV filter is fine and the 2 stop Neutral Density wasn't enough to do some of what I wanted to do while in WY so I think I'm going to be picking some of those up for all my lenses. Do you shoot your games during the evening (prior to dark and the lights turning on) with a filter on?
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