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Is It True Your Credit Score Goes Down When You Pay Off Your Credit Card Debit?

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  • mustang190mustang190 Posts: 10,104 AG
    I pay my credit card off every month. Im referred to as a deadbeat by the credit card companies.
    I carry no debt but still have the highest credit score available.
  • cadmancadman Posts: 43,608 AG
    Mango Man wrote: »
    It makes no sense the way they compute the scores.

    August a year ago we took a New England trip and I placed all the charges on my CC. (Which the CC company knew about so as not to get declined.)

    Returned home and paid off the balance in full. I NEVER run a balance. Checked my cc score and it had dropped by 20 points. :huh :shrug

    I have a very high score and like it that way.

    It slowly made it's way back but with no rhyme or reason.

    If you read the links I provided it would have told you. When you used the one card for everything the balance for that month likely exceeded 30% of the credit line for that card. This increased the utilization rate and lowered your score. Never charge more than 30% of the credit limit in any one month. Use two cards if need be to spread the charges out and pay it off every month. The balance reported is before the payment is made.

    Former Mini Mart Magnate

    I am just here for my amusement. 

  • RareRare Posts: 248 Deckhand
    Look at the closing date of your card card and pay it off before that is another way. As Cad said, keep it spread out if needed to keep it way under 30%. Also, remember that they look at many other things as well. If you go applying for better card for perks or asking for more credit that will dropped your score. The time line of your credit history etc. will also factor in etc... Keep the cards you have active because your score will drop if they closed your account or might even decrease the amount.

    My score dropped when i got an increase in credit from chase. I didnt ask for it, they gave me an increase. It will bounce back either ways in a few months and higher score. One reason you should be looking at your credit score if you are shopping for a house, car, or getting a card with better rate or perks. If you are not, than dont go crazy with it if it drops a few points or 50.

    Just remember that Credit Karma is using VantageScore 3.0 and many others are using FICO system. This will give you a general idea where you are at within your credit score. The scores can be near or off depeding on what system they are using. Which can put you in a either a "GOOD" rating or an "Excellent." Also FICO 8 is starting be use more now and they changed the system around. If you had an excellent credit with FICO 7 you might have a good credit with FICO 8 or other way around.

    1 last thing is which FICO system are they using for that loan for a car, mortgage, credit card or in house system? Buy a house might use FICO 5 system and the CC company will use FICO 8 etc. You might score better with the older system or not.
  • AC ManAC Man Posts: 7,302 Admiral
    Wheather it lowers my score or not. I'm paying off the 45k tomorrow. I hate oweing money like no tomorrow. We did it for our son and fiancee who were out of work for the 8 months he was in the hospital. My wife did also not work for those 8 months. All taking care of him. Well worth it and let the chips fall where they may. Just thankfull I have the money to pay it off and like someone said I will sleep better. Also thankfull I had the credit and cash to help him out. We even had custom made curtains that blocked the light in his hospital room. The nurses and doctors thought it was awesome!
  • PXMANPXMAN Posts: 18 Deckhand
    cadman wrote: »
    No it is not true. If you use a credit card and pay it off every month your score can still be quite high.

    The other issue is your utilization rate.

    http://www.bankrate.com/finance/credit/credit-score-fall-after-paying-loan.aspx

    http://budgeting.thenest.com/becoming-debt-affect-credit-score-20809.html

    https://www.thebalance.com/how-having-a-zero-balance-affects-your-credit-score-960530


    Now if you pay them off and quit using them it can effect your score. Read the above links to maximize your credit score.

    This is correct. I pay my credit cards off every month and our house is paid for. My credit score is 820
  • MenziesMenzies Posts: 19,289 AG
    PXMAN wrote: »
    This is correct. I pay my credit cards off every month and our house is paid for. My credit score is 820

    Mine is 825 (when I was guarantor for my son's car loan a couple of months ago).

    I wonder if it is possible to get to 850? It seems to be a timing thing. If they run the update during the mid-cycle of you Amex or CC period they then capture the balance, and not the fact that it is paid off in total a couple of weeks later.

    Might be a bit of an experiment to use only debit card for a month and keep zero balances on the cards to see if I can get close.
    Maybe if we tell people that the brain is an App, they will start using it.
  • Mango ManMango Man Posts: 13,570 AG
    I went from 844 to 824 and now to 848.

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  • TarponatorTarponator Posts: 19,949 AG
    Pay off your debts. Don't borrow money for things you cannot afford (except perhaps a house), and what the credit report people think of you will not matter.
  • mustang190mustang190 Posts: 10,104 AG
    Tarponator wrote: »
    Pay off your debts. Don't borrow money for things you cannot afford (except perhaps a house), and what the credit report people think of you will not matter.

    Agree!! Debt is only good when you have to have it, like a house. But only one you can comfortably afford.
  • mplspugmplspug Posts: 16,014 AG
    Screw that. Borrow, use credit, purchase things above your paygrade, you only live once suckers.
    Just dropping grenades in OT
  • Soda PopinskiSoda Popinski Posts: 16,694 AG
    mustang190 wrote: »
    Agree!! Debt is only good when you have to have it, like a house. But only one you can comfortably afford.

    One of the things we'll do is when a tire place has 6 months same as cash, or something like that we'll do it, just to spread out the money. I like keeping my money in my pocket, if i can spread out a $900 hit over 90 days or 180 days without paying interest i'll definitely do it.
    You can't pet a dead dog back to life 
  • Baits OutBaits Out Posts: 12,328 AG
    cadman wrote: »
    No it is not true. If you use a credit card and pay it off every month your score can still be quite high.

    The other issue is your utilization rate.

    http://www.bankrate.com/finance/credit/credit-score-fall-after-paying-loan.aspx

    http://budgeting.thenest.com/becoming-debt-affect-credit-score-20809.html

    https://www.thebalance.com/how-having-a-zero-balance-affects-your-credit-score-960530


    Now if you pay them off and quit using them it can effect your score. Read the above links to maximize your credit score.



    AGREE.

    I only have two or three credit cards.

    If used, they are always zero balanced at the end of the month -- so they don't get any high-interest-rate monies for maintaining a balance.

    Nevertheless, at least once a week I get an email or written notice to get another credit card; or to fill in my current income information to increase my credit limit.

    Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiet! On one I almost never use, I could buy a small car with just a signature.

    Else-wise, use a debit card and know up-to-the-minuet how you stand, and can laugh at the poor bastids who run up credit card debt.


    A southeast Florida laid back beach bum and volunteer bikini assessor who lives on island time. 
  • CyclistCyclist Posts: 23,340 AG
    There is good debt and bad debt. Don't make the mistake in thinking all debt is bad...

    I have had a prime + 0% for life credit card for 15 years. I am very careful to not **** them off and always pay on time.
  • Baits OutBaits Out Posts: 12,328 AG
    Cyclist wrote: »
    There is good debt and bad debt. Don't make the mistake in thinking all debt is bad...

    I have had a prime + 0% for life credit card for 15 years. I am very careful to not **** them off and always pay on time.

    You are partially correct.

    Some years ago I bought a new Ford Explorer for zero percent for 6 years, as I can remember.

    Since after all the haggling to make sure the price was a deal, that free money was a great incentive.

    Set up an account to automatically send in the payment from one of my accounts and all went well until
    it was paid off.

    The Ford dealer keeps sending me notices about new offers on their new vehicles.

    :USA

    MAKING AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!

    A southeast Florida laid back beach bum and volunteer bikini assessor who lives on island time. 
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