Thinking of purchasing a mountain bike for my up coming Sambar hunt and to use on my locala wma ...was wondering how many of yall hunt off bikes ? Fat tire or skinny and any other advice ?
Get a fat tire bike, and start using it now. Make sure to ride at least a day or two each week until then and you will be able to go anywhere. Get a rear rack for the bike and modify it to hold your tree-stand in a stable way, also get a handlebar rack for your rifle. Don't wait until a month before to start, do it now, practice now. Last year i was able to go all over the island without stopping or having to walk my bike, regular tires could not, I passed lots of guys walking or pushing their bikes. Even the cheaper bikes can get you anywhere, just get one and ride.
I bought my fat bike online from Walmart a couple years ago. Came with gears but had to change the seat to fit my fat a??...
Overall I'm happy with it for the $199 price tag. Doesn't do well in sugar sand though. I'd get one and start riding it as already said. It's a good tool for hunting in the right places.
That's a very interesting idea. Do you know if they consider an electric bicycle a motorized vehicle on public land? It might be electric but it's still technically motorized. Have you used one on public land?
I know nothing about the bikes 'yall are talking about, but I don't think you're going to be able to ride a bike into any Sambar habitat. Am I wrong?
The few people ive talked with say the island has a decent road system ..I'm thinking a bike will get me a little farther then my feet but could be wrong !
I used to use a bike a lot to hunt ducks with. I put a shelf on the back behind the seat and then a milk crate was ziptied to the rack so I could put stuff in the crate as well as strap things on the milk crate and have it hang off the side.
The guns were in waterproof sleeves with regular gun cases and then those were just bungeed to the center support, running the length of the bike, because in the front we installed heavy duty baskets so that we could carry bags of decoys on the front. The gun stayed out of the way and it never moved around when in was bungeed nice and tight
I know nothing about the bikes 'yall are talking about, but I don't think you're going to be able to ride a bike into any Sambar habitat. Am I wrong?
You ride along the beach. I did several hunts at St. Vincent some moons ago and road from the camp area closest to land to the far tip of the island along the hardpacked wet sand beach. Not good for the bike! I then would take my climber, hide the bike in the bushes and walk in to the islands interior.
It was really cool in the am. Two hours before first light, the stars, the shrimpers way off in the distance and the back tire would kick up phosphorescence phytoplankon that was in the damp sand. Your tire track would glow, and it would last for 20 minutes or more.
I used a regular mountain bike with big tires and about 15 pounds of pressure in them. It worked great. And a rear rack to strap my cimbber on.
That's a very interesting idea. Do you know if they consider an electric bicycle a motorized vehicle on public land? It might be electric but it's still technically motorized. Have you used one on public land?
As long as it can't go over 20 mph, you're good according to the law as it still falls under a bicycle.
Thanks the trailer is a custom job I "engineered" from one of those kid carrier trailers. Took off all the canvas and reinforced the frame and axle with some extra metal
Thanks the trailer is a custom job I "engineered" from one of those kid carrier trailers. Took off all the canvas and reinforced the frame and axle with some extra metal
I'm wanting to do the same thing, those kid trailers seem to be cheap used. I'd be interested in a few pics of the work you did if you're willing to share.
I picked this one up off craigslist for like $20, the canvas was torn so the guy didn't want much for it. Honestly we didn't do too much to it, they're rated for a frugal 150 lbs..we added some crossbracing to the bottom of the axles to keep them from warping under the weight of a deer and my climber and secured the extra rail portions to sit tight on the frame. I'll see what kind of pictures I can dig up
As long as it can't go over 20 mph, you're good according to the law as it still falls under a bicycle.
not good to go all places. Down here (IRC/Brevard) motors are motors, electric or otherwise. I know several guys that got stroked by FWC for electric bikes in a no motorized vehicle area.
not good to go all places. Down here (IRC/Brevard) motors are motors, electric or otherwise. I know several guys that got stroked by FWC for electric bikes in a no motorized vehicle area.
You may be right in terms of the ticket, but that's why we have courts. F.S. 316.003(2) is pretty clear and 320.01 helps explain things as well.
F.S.316.003 BICYCLE.—Every VEHICLE propelled solely by human power, and every motorized bicycle propelled by a combination of human power and an electric helper motor capable of propelling the vehicle at a speed of not more than 20 miles per hour on level ground upon which any person may ride, HAVING TWO TANDEM WHEELS, and including any device generally recognized as a bicycle though equipped with two front or two rear wheels. The term does not include such a vehicle with a seat height of no more than 25 inches from the ground when the seat is adjusted to its highest position or a scooter or similar device. A person under the age of 16 may not operate or ride upon a motorized bicycle.
I think you misread the statute a bicycle is defined as having to Tandem Wheels and is actually defined as a vehicle... If you're referring to statute 321 to clear things up I'm not sure that it does a Mobility assist device is defined as having two NON TANDEM Wheels and self-balancing
ELECTRIC PERSONAL ASSISTIVE MOBILITY DEVICE.—Any self-balancing, two-nontandem-wheeled device, designed to transport only one person, with an electric propulsion system with average power of 750 watts (1 horsepower), the maximum speed of which, on a paved level surface when powered solely by such a propulsion system while being ridden by an operator who weighs 170 pounds, is less than 20 miles per hour. Electric personal assistive mobility devices are not vehicles as defined in this section.
Thinking of purchasing a mountain bike for my up coming Sambar hunt and to use on my locala wma ...was wondering how many of yall hunt off bikes ? Fat tire or skinny and any other advice ?
I found a cheapo mtn bike out in the neighbors trash.
Had standard knobby tires and a ****ty seat.
I bought a good seat, painted it camo and have successfully hunted GSW, UH, LSNWR in scrub, dirt, mud, underwater, sugar sand(not long stretches), etc
I don't think it would ride down a powdery beach, but it was fine for all purpose stuff
F.S.316.003 BICYCLE.—Every VEHICLE propelled solely by human power, and every motorized bicycle propelled by a combination of human power and an electric helper motor capable of propelling the vehicle at a speed of not more than 20 miles per hour on level ground upon which any person may ride, HAVING TWO TANDEM WHEELS, and including any device generally recognized as a bicycle though equipped with two front or two rear wheels. The term does not include such a vehicle with a seat height of no more than 25 inches from the ground when the seat is adjusted to its highest position or a scooter or similar device. A person under the age of 16 may not operate or ride upon a motorized bicycle.
I think you misread the statute a bicycle is defined as having to Tandem Wheels and is actually defined as a vehicle... If you're referring to statute 321 to clear things up I'm not sure that it does a Mobility assist device is defined as having two NON TANDEM Wheels and self-balancing
ELECTRIC PERSONAL ASSISTIVE MOBILITY DEVICE.—Any self-balancing, two-nontandem-wheeled device, designed to transport only one person, with an electric propulsion system with average power of 750 watts (1 horsepower), the maximum speed of which, on a paved level surface when powered solely by such a propulsion system while being ridden by an operator who weighs 170 pounds, is less than 20 miles per hour. Electric personal assistive mobility devices are not vehicles as defined in this section.
I would say you misread it and should look up tandem. 320.01 defines a motor vehicle (and excludes what's defined as a bicycle), which you can't ride through the woods. A vehicle and motor vehicle are not the same.
Tandem is one in front of the other, tandem seats would be one seat in front of the other, tandem Wheels would be one wheel in front of the other, non tandem Wheels would be side by side. I believe that the management area signs at the head of trails and firebreaks reads no vehicle access or no motorized vehicle access. Granted a vehicle and motor vehicle are defined differently but at the same time a bicycle with a motor on it is called a motorized bicycle. So with that being said if I sign said no motorized Vehicles beyond this point that would include a motorized bicycle. Good luck with that you'll probably get away with it until you don't
You may be right in terms of the ticket, but that's why we have courts. F.S. 316.003(2) is pretty clear and 320.01 helps explain things as well.
May also want to look at F.A.C. regarding WMA rules:
68A-15.004 General Regulations Relating to Wildlife Management Areas.
(9) Vehicles:
(a) No motor vehicle shall be operated on any part of any wildlife management area designated by area regulations as closed to vehicular traffic or temporarily closed by administrative action and posting notice of such on those areas because of inclement weather, poor road conditions, construction or management activities or wildlife surveys. The use of two-wheeled motor-powered vehicles or all-terrain vehicles is prohibited on any roads or trails not open to or used by other vehicles unless otherwise provided by specific area regulation.
The last part of that rule likely rules out motorized bicycles.
An earlier post also referenced using a bike on the Sambar hunt which is a National Wildlife Refuge and not a WMA so Code of Federal Regulations applies and not state statutes or rules.
Where some of you are making a mistake is that you want to classify a bike with a motor a motorized vehicle. As long as it is pedal assist and doesn't go over 20mph it is considered a bicycle. Therefore it is legal on WMA's.
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Overall I'm happy with it for the $199 price tag. Doesn't do well in sugar sand though. I'd get one and start riding it as already said. It's a good tool for hunting in the right places.
That's a very interesting idea. Do you know if they consider an electric bicycle a motorized vehicle on public land? It might be electric but it's still technically motorized. Have you used one on public land?
I shot one from the main road.
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The guns were in waterproof sleeves with regular gun cases and then those were just bungeed to the center support, running the length of the bike, because in the front we installed heavy duty baskets so that we could carry bags of decoys on the front. The gun stayed out of the way and it never moved around when in was bungeed nice and tight
You ride along the beach. I did several hunts at St. Vincent some moons ago and road from the camp area closest to land to the far tip of the island along the hardpacked wet sand beach. Not good for the bike! I then would take my climber, hide the bike in the bushes and walk in to the islands interior.
It was really cool in the am. Two hours before first light, the stars, the shrimpers way off in the distance and the back tire would kick up phosphorescence phytoplankon that was in the damp sand. Your tire track would glow, and it would last for 20 minutes or more.
I used a regular mountain bike with big tires and about 15 pounds of pressure in them. It worked great. And a rear rack to strap my cimbber on.
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As long as it can't go over 20 mph, you're good according to the law as it still falls under a bicycle.
What kind of trailer do you have there? Nice buck btw
I'm wanting to do the same thing, those kid trailers seem to be cheap used. I'd be interested in a few pics of the work you did if you're willing to share.
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Good stuff, thanks!
Cool good to know. Thanks
not good to go all places. Down here (IRC/Brevard) motors are motors, electric or otherwise. I know several guys that got stroked by FWC for electric bikes in a no motorized vehicle area.
You may be right in terms of the ticket, but that's why we have courts. F.S. 316.003(2) is pretty clear and 320.01 helps explain things as well.
I think you misread the statute a bicycle is defined as having to Tandem Wheels and is actually defined as a vehicle... If you're referring to statute 321 to clear things up I'm not sure that it does a Mobility assist device is defined as having two NON TANDEM Wheels and self-balancing
ELECTRIC PERSONAL ASSISTIVE MOBILITY DEVICE.—Any self-balancing, two-nontandem-wheeled device, designed to transport only one person, with an electric propulsion system with average power of 750 watts (1 horsepower), the maximum speed of which, on a paved level surface when powered solely by such a propulsion system while being ridden by an operator who weighs 170 pounds, is less than 20 miles per hour. Electric personal assistive mobility devices are not vehicles as defined in this section.
I found a cheapo mtn bike out in the neighbors trash.
Had standard knobby tires and a ****ty seat.
I bought a good seat, painted it camo and have successfully hunted GSW, UH, LSNWR in scrub, dirt, mud, underwater, sugar sand(not long stretches), etc
I don't think it would ride down a powdery beach, but it was fine for all purpose stuff
I would say you misread it and should look up tandem. 320.01 defines a motor vehicle (and excludes what's defined as a bicycle), which you can't ride through the woods. A vehicle and motor vehicle are not the same.
May also want to look at F.A.C. regarding WMA rules:
68A-15.004 General Regulations Relating to Wildlife Management Areas.
(9) Vehicles:
(a) No motor vehicle shall be operated on any part of any wildlife management area designated by area regulations as closed to vehicular traffic or temporarily closed by administrative action and posting notice of such on those areas because of inclement weather, poor road conditions, construction or management activities or wildlife surveys. The use of two-wheeled motor-powered vehicles or all-terrain vehicles is prohibited on any roads or trails not open to or used by other vehicles unless otherwise provided by specific area regulation.
The last part of that rule likely rules out motorized bicycles.
An earlier post also referenced using a bike on the Sambar hunt which is a National Wildlife Refuge and not a WMA so Code of Federal Regulations applies and not state statutes or rules.