Know of a few near Paynes Prairie but they were part of a hi fence deal that went OOB.. about got run over by one scouting deer one day, couldnt believe it
If memory serves me correctly, and I'm sure woodsrunner will straighten it out when he swings by at some point, elk did frequent north Florida at one time. While there wasn't a native herd they did mingle around the north Florida border from time to time. Elk were native over the north 3/4 of GA and AL.
I know it's not feasible given the human population of the eastern US, but I'd love to see elk reintroduced into more of their historic range. TN, NC, VA, PA, KY, MI, MO, AR all have elk populations in them now (I might be missing one or two of the eastern states)
Elk were native to north Florida, as well as Buffalo, up until early Colonial times. If my memory is correct, but please remember that I'm "oldern' dirt now", the last recorded Florida Elk was killed about 1731 in the Blountstown, Florida area. The last Buffalo--or Bison--was killed on St.Simons Island, Georgia in the 1701-1705 period. A good friend of mine, Ted Franklin Beleue, a professor of history up in Kentucky has documented this, and that's where my info comes from. (I might be off in spelling Ted's last name). William Bartram, the Naturalist who came through parts of Georgia, Florida and Alabama back in the 1773-1775 period mentions Elk and Buffalo, but found none on his travels though he mentioned these animals as "former" to our area. . Bartram was actually on a special assignment for the Contenientel Congress collecting Intelligence on the loyalty--possibly un-loyalty-- of the inhabitants to the British Crown, and he used his study of the natural world as a front. Extremely interesting reading--"Bartram's Travels"! If you have an interest in the natural world of our area before we kinda messed it up, get the book!
EDIT: Ted's last name is spelled Beleu, and the book that he published with this info is titled "Long Hunt East of the Mississippi". Get a copy to go along with Bartram's!
If memory serves me correctly, and I'm sure woodsrunner will straighten it out when he swings by at some point, elk did frequent north Florida at one time. While there wasn't a native herd they did mingle around the north Florida border from time to time. Elk were native over the north 3/4 of GA and AL.
I know it's not feasible given the human population of the eastern US, but I'd love to see elk reintroduced into more of their historic range. TN, NC, VA, PA, KY, MI, MO, AR all have elk populations in them now (I might be missing one or two of the eastern states)
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There was a report last year of the first elk sighting in South Carolina in something like 150 years.
There was a report last year of the first elk sighting in South Carolina in something like 150 years.
Remember reading that and believe it was one of elk from the re-introduced herd in NC. Hopefully it wasn't a lone elk wandering but rather the herd expanding, which is a good thing.
Yep. That animal was actually photographed on my buddy's (and one-time FS Fur participant) lease.
When i read that story my friends and i were making jokes about someone trying to bring it to the processor with white out all over it's tail, and some antlers sawd off. Woowee, man i shot this buck right at daybreak...
The South Carolina Elk was a young male from the North Carolina release program. He was exploring adjacent habitat looking for a girlfriend. What you see here is an excellent example of one of the basic laws of wildlife biology in play: "A wildlife population will expand to fill the habitat available to it". A very simple Law! Given time and protection, the elk herd in favorable habitat in the Deep Southeastern States and Southern Appalachian Area WILL become re-established.
A good example of this "Law" in operation is the re-establishment of the Whitetail Deer population in the Deep South. If you're as "old as dirt" as I am, and if you spent your productive career in forestry/wildlife management here in the Deep South, you will remember when there were NO DEER anywhere hardly! In the early 1960's a wildlife biologist, Jack Crockford by name, started a pilot project of reintroducing Whitetails into the Piedmont of Georgia where excellent habitat existed, but no deer! The deer came off the barrier islands along the coast of Georgia AND VERY **** FEW EVER CAME FROM UP NORTH!
I was lucky beyond belief for having the opportunity of working with Jack in the development of the hypodermic "Capture Gun" as a student employee during my days at the UGA forestry/wildlife school. Jack and I much later became re-associated and very good friends on a South Georgia Plantation where he was a very frequent quail hunting guest, and I was the forester/wildlife manager.
Remember reading that and believe it was one of elk from the re-introduced herd in NC. Hopefully it wasn't a lone elk wandering but rather the herd expanding, which is a good thing.
The elk was simply one from NC roaming around.
The farmers in NC are having to shoot the elk because they are causing problems.
I think it was calendar year 2015 that there were over 41,000 auto-deer collisions in the state of Georgia!
Thanksgiving week-end in 1954 while fox hunting on Cedar Mountain, North Georgia, a doe ran across the road in front of our truck on the way up the Mountain----we stopped to look so everyone could see what a deer track looked like!
The South Carolina Elk was a young male from the North Carolina release program. He was exploring adjacent habitat looking for a girlfriend. What you see here is an excellent example of one of the basic laws of wildlife biology in play: "A wildlife population will expand to fill the habitat available to it". A very simple Law! Given time and protection, the elk herd in favorable habitat in the Deep Southeastern States and Southern Appalachian Area WILL become re-established.
A good example of this "Law" in operation is the re-establishment of the Whitetail Deer population in the Deep South. If you're as "old as dirt" as I am, and if you spent your productive career in forestry/wildlife management here in the Deep South, you will remember when there were NO DEER anywhere hardly! In the early 1960's a wildlife biologist, Jack Crockford by name, started a pilot project of reintroducing Whitetails into the Piedmont of Georgia where excellent habitat existed, but no deer! The deer came off the barrier islands along the coast of Georgia AND VERY **** FEW EVER CAME FROM UP NORTH!
I was lucky beyond belief for having the opportunity of working with Jack in the development of the hypodermic "Capture Gun" as a student employee during my days at the UGA forestry/wildlife school. Jack and I much later became re-associated and very good friends on a South Georgia Plantation where he was a very frequent quail hunting guest, and I was the forester/wildlife manager.
I am glad to only be a bird hunter with bird dogs...being a shooter or dog handler or whatever other niche exists to separate appears to generate far too much about which to worry.
Restocking native species with transplants is expensive and very risky. Wildlife biologists with whom I've worked over the years all say that a 10% survival rate is about the best you can expect, and it seems that the larger the species is physically the lower the survival rate is.
Kinda funny that you mentioned Vanderbilt! My granddad, by whom I was reared from age 14 months, and Jack Vanderbilt (the son) used to fox hunt together up around Old Fort, N.C.
This one has been hanging around for a couple of years here in Jupiter.
Nice 5pt. Love those dark antlers with ivory tips! The 6pt I missed with my bow last September still haunts me. Hope to return next year for revenge on any legal elk that presents a shot.
And as long as you realize they are stories not based upon fact you'll be just fine.
Kentucky is now the primary stock source for elk in the east since their animals have become so well acclimated and are breeding like crazy.
why the hate?
woodsrunner contributes some great info to this forum..
I value his input as do many others.
I am glad to only be a bird hunter with bird dogs...being a shooter or dog handler or whatever other niche exists to separate appears to generate far too much about which to worry.
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I know it's not feasible given the human population of the eastern US, but I'd love to see elk reintroduced into more of their historic range. TN, NC, VA, PA, KY, MI, MO, AR all have elk populations in them now (I might be missing one or two of the eastern states)
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EDIT: Ted's last name is spelled Beleu, and the book that he published with this info is titled "Long Hunt East of the Mississippi". Get a copy to go along with Bartram's!
There was a report last year of the first elk sighting in South Carolina in something like 150 years.
Remember reading that and believe it was one of elk from the re-introduced herd in NC. Hopefully it wasn't a lone elk wandering but rather the herd expanding, which is a good thing.
Yep. That animal was actually photographed on my buddy's (and one-time FS Fur participant) lease.
When i read that story my friends and i were making jokes about someone trying to bring it to the processor with white out all over it's tail, and some antlers sawd off. Woowee, man i shot this buck right at daybreak...
A good example of this "Law" in operation is the re-establishment of the Whitetail Deer population in the Deep South. If you're as "old as dirt" as I am, and if you spent your productive career in forestry/wildlife management here in the Deep South, you will remember when there were NO DEER anywhere hardly! In the early 1960's a wildlife biologist, Jack Crockford by name, started a pilot project of reintroducing Whitetails into the Piedmont of Georgia where excellent habitat existed, but no deer! The deer came off the barrier islands along the coast of Georgia AND VERY **** FEW EVER CAME FROM UP NORTH!
I was lucky beyond belief for having the opportunity of working with Jack in the development of the hypodermic "Capture Gun" as a student employee during my days at the UGA forestry/wildlife school. Jack and I much later became re-associated and very good friends on a South Georgia Plantation where he was a very frequent quail hunting guest, and I was the forester/wildlife manager.
The elk was simply one from NC roaming around.
The farmers in NC are having to shoot the elk because they are causing problems.
I think it was calendar year 2015 that there were over 41,000 auto-deer collisions in the state of Georgia!
Thanksgiving week-end in 1954 while fox hunting on Cedar Mountain, North Georgia, a doe ran across the road in front of our truck on the way up the Mountain----we stopped to look so everyone could see what a deer track looked like!
The deer in N GA came from the Pisgah Forest in NC which was restocked with deer from New York by George Vanderbilt because Mr Vanderbilt was from NY.
As I understand it the rest of GA was stocked with native deer.
The elk released in NC are not native. They are from the Alberta prairie and NC has no prairies.
I love reading your stories.
http://forum.gon.com/showthread.php?t=289286
Kinda funny that you mentioned Vanderbilt! My granddad, by whom I was reared from age 14 months, and Jack Vanderbilt (the son) used to fox hunt together up around Old Fort, N.C.
And as long as you realize they are stories not based upon fact you'll be just fine.
Kentucky is now the primary stock source for elk in the east since their animals have become so well acclimated and are breeding like crazy.
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What makes you say that?
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Nice 5pt. Love those dark antlers with ivory tips! The 6pt I missed with my bow last September still haunts me. Hope to return next year for revenge on any legal elk that presents a shot.
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woodsrunner contributes some great info to this forum..
I value his input as do many others.