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  • cadmancadman Posts: 43,655 AG
    nuevowavo wrote: »
    Get a new wife. :wink

    Seriously, we like our steaks black and blue, well-charred on the outside and very rare inside (Pittsburgh).
    I've yet to find a gas grill that gets hot enough to accomplish this. I use lump charcoal, started in a chimney (no petroleum smell or flavor like you get with briquets and liquid starter). Steaks are at least 3/4" thick, and I cook em about 8 minutes/inch.
    Sous vide sounds interesting, but I don't think I could get enough char by just quickly searing them after cooking.

    Try this method next time.

    http://emerils.com/120249/black-and-blue-steak

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  • 4WARD4WARD Posts: 2,984 Captain
    I think I saw once where someone put a grill rack on top of the chimney itself.
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  • ParkerboyParkerboy Posts: 7,045 Admiral
    4WARD wrote: »
    I think I saw once where someone put a grill rack on top of the chimney itself.

    Saw Alton Brown cook a steak that way on one of his shows.
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  • fishdishfishdish Posts: 1,223 Officer
    Mister-Jr wrote: »
    fishdish, I have read that steaks, chicken, and pork chops are really tender prepared this way. What is your opinion?

    Not sure if they are necessarily more tender but I think the consistent temperature helps retain moisture and it seems that way. You definitely notice it with pork and chicken breast. Steaks are more flavorful cooked this way and the best way to finish them is in a cast iron skillet with some butter and fresh herbs. Make sure you do it outside because it does smoke. The Anova app is pretty cool too. Ton of great recipes/ideas and the Bluetooth feature is kind of cool. I was a complete skeptic at first but now try to use it every chance I get. It's a bit pricey at $150 but definitely worth it. Being fishermen we can all justify spending money on things we "need".
  • HeatwaveHeatwave Posts: 1,997 Captain
    Tarponator wrote: »
    I'm a bit sick of arguing with the same three folks, so let's try to find some broader appeal.... MEAT!!!

    Have any of you tried to cook your steaks sous vide?


    https://anovaculinary.com/what-is-sous-vide/

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  • drkpttdrkptt Posts: 1,927 Captain
    Here's a site with sous vide experiments, some hits and some misses. Readers suggest odd things to try and the author cooks it.

    http://lifehacker.com/tag/will-it-sous-vide
  • mplspugmplspug Posts: 16,014 AG
    I say $150 for better steak is cheap.

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  • mindyabinessmindyabiness Posts: 8,006 Admiral
    mplspug wrote: »
    I say $150 for better steak is cheap.

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    The flavor and texture of the beef has much more to do with the way the animal is grown, killed, and processed then how it is cooked.
    If the meat is good, the cooking becomes a formality. Any reasonable method, executed property, will have excellent results. The rest is just succumbing to the latest trends.


    http://altonbrown.com/thermal-shock-porterhouse-steak-recipe/
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  • TarponatorTarponator Posts: 19,973 AG
    Bodine wrote: »
    I could eat at your house. Even though I am a porterhouse fan.

    Here's another thing I forgot to mention....

    With steaks like a porterhouse (or a rib-in ribeye), I always struggled to get the entire steak done. Invariably what happens to me is the steak near the bone was more raw than the rest of the steak.

    With sous vide, this problem disappears. Apparently, the water efficiently transferring the heat along with the length of time the beef spends under heat ensures the entire steak is done correctly.

    Anyway, the ribs turned out delicious but a bit tough -- I think they needed more than a half hour on the grill.

    Last night I had my parents over for dinner. Got some beautifully marbled USDA prime NY Strips from Costco. They turned out perfectly, even with the hypocrisy salad. :)

    Enjoy...Mike
  • mustang190mustang190 Posts: 10,104 AG
    I just knock the hooves and horns off, ready to eat.
  • mustang190mustang190 Posts: 10,104 AG
    nuevowavo wrote: »
    Get a new wife. :wink

    Seriously, we like our steaks black and blue, well-charred on the outside and very rare inside (Pittsburgh).
    I've yet to find a gas grill that gets hot enough to accomplish this. I use lump charcoal, started in a chimney (no petroleum smell or flavor like you get with briquets and liquid starter). Steaks are at least 3/4" thick, and I cook em about 8 minutes/inch.
    Sous vide sounds interesting, but I don't think I could get enough char by just quickly searing them after cooking.

    Exactly! But I prefer about 2.5 minutes per side.
    By the way,, what time is supper??
  • mplspugmplspug Posts: 16,014 AG
    No a friend posted this somewhere else. I am beginning to think it's a sign. :)

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  • TarponatorTarponator Posts: 19,973 AG
    nuevowavo wrote: »
    Seriously, we like our steaks black and blue, well-charred on the outside and very rare inside (Pittsburgh).
    I've yet to find a gas grill that gets hot enough to accomplish this.

    How hot does your grill go?

    I got my gas grill up to 750 last night....

    Using sous vide to cook the steaks, then the grill to char them, at that temp 2 minutes per side and you can hear the knife cut them. I prefer them about 60 to 90 seconds @ 700 degrees.
  • TarponatorTarponator Posts: 19,973 AG
    mplspug wrote: »
    I've heard of it and it sounds awesome. What if you like it med rare, but the wife and MIL like it medium?

    I have the same problem when my mother comes over. She prefers her steaks M, where the rest of us like MR.

    What I do is this: Cook the steaks in water to the MR temperature (about 130-133, not the higher temp I mistakenly mentioned earlier). Then remove all but the ones you want more well done. Raise the temperature a few degrees to M or MW temperature, and let it go for another 30 mins or so. Then put them all on the grill at the same time. The outside will come out the same (provided you leave them on the flame the same amount of time), but the insides will be cooked by the water and remain untouched by the quick application of heat to char it.

    You really should try it -- your MIL and wife will appreciate their now even-more-juicy M and MW (and even W) steaks.

    Hope this helps...Mike
  • mplspugmplspug Posts: 16,014 AG
    Cool, I'll have to research sticks and ovens. I looked aty Walmart app which is a storefront for a bunch of retailers like Wayfair. I saw only 1 that had reviews. I like using user reviews when making a decision on most my purchases.

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  • cadmancadman Posts: 43,655 AG
    mplspug wrote: »
    Cool, I'll have to research sticks and ovens. I looked aty Walmart app which is a storefront for a bunch of retailers like Wayfair. I saw only 1 that had reviews. I like using user reviews when making a decision on most my purchases.

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    Amazon has a bunch of them

    this one is only $84
    https://www.amazon.com/Nutrichef-Immersion-Circulator-Temperature-Vegetables/dp/B01L7TOZHQ/ref=sr_1_11?ie=UTF8&qid=1499085904&sr=8-11&keywords=sous+vide

    The only use I see for it would be roasts, so I am thinking about this one. Kind of like a slow cooker.

    https://www.amazon.com/Magic-Mill-Sous-Vide-Machine/dp/B01MRRGX15/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1499085904&sr=8-5&keywords=sous+vide

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  • mplspugmplspug Posts: 16,014 AG
    This is the one I saw that had reviews.

    Gourmia GSV900 Sous Vide Self Contained Circulating Water Oven with Rack

    I am wondering if I should go the "contained" route or the stick route. I'd think, and I am making a big assumption here, that a stick vs contained unit both at $100, the stick would be a higher quality.
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  • Soda PopinskiSoda Popinski Posts: 16,704 AG
    No i do just fine with propane or charcoal. Had bone in ribeyes last night. good char outside, bright red inside and tender. Best steak I've had in months.
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  • CyclistCyclist Posts: 23,340 AG
    Who eats steak more than several times a year?


































    Besides the guys with diverticulitis....
  • mindyabinessmindyabiness Posts: 8,006 Admiral
    Cyclist wrote: »
    Who eats steak more than several times a year?


































    Besides the guys with diverticulitis....

    And this is how it starts.....

    I can't remember the last time I ate beef. I'm pretty sure it was this year. It's hard to find good beef, beef that has not been frozen, cut from where and how you like it. It's become so expensive.....but when it's good....it's very satisfying.

    I'm going to grow my own next year...I'll have way more than I need so.....
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  • ParkerboyParkerboy Posts: 7,045 Admiral
    We, my wife and I, grill rib eyes weekly at least and many weeks twice per week. I buy prime rib eyes from a local meat market and they know me well. I normally pick up 10-12 at a time and vacuum pack them. I also get hamburger from them which we grill often as well.

    Christmas never comes that we don't have a rib roast plus two to three times throughout the rest of the year as well.

    My other main meat is pork, love two inch thick grilled chops but also like fried pork chops, ham, sausage, and pork roast.

    Rarely eat chicken except fried which I love.
    Deo Vindice
  • mplspugmplspug Posts: 16,014 AG
    No i do just fine with propane or charcoal. Had bone in ribeyes last night. good char outside, bright red inside and tender. Best steak I've had in months.

    The problem with my gas grill that I have now is that it preheats just fine with the cover down. As soon as I slap the steak on the temps don't get back to the point where it's hot enough to cook to my liking. And it seems hot enough, because I can't hold my hands over the grates for 5 seconds.

    This is why I need to get a kettle charcoal grill. I still prefer propane during the week.
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  • mplspugmplspug Posts: 16,014 AG
    Cyclist wrote: »
    Besides the guys with diverticulitis....

    Why are you picking on people with disabilities? :nono
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  • Soda PopinskiSoda Popinski Posts: 16,704 AG
    mplspug wrote: »
    The problem with my gas grill that I have now is that it preheats just fine with the cover down. As soon as I slap the steak on the temps don't get back to the point where it's hot enough to cook to my liking. And it seems hot enough, because I can't hold my hands over the grates for 5 seconds.

    This is why I need to get a kettle charcoal grill. I still prefer propane during the week.

    Huh, i wonder what the deal is. I have 3 burners, it's some cheapo propane grill i bought at lowes 4 years ago. All black, barrell style with two chimneys on the top. They all last about 3 years before they rust out so I never spend any decent money on them.

    What I did do was remove the heat shield from one of my burners. Once I get it up to about 750 degrees I throw the steaks on and shut it. I put my steaks right over the open flame burner. Gives them a nice sear and grill marks. But I was using 1 1/4" thick ribeyes so it's not real easy to overcook. If I use thin ones they overcook so I usually use the side burner and a cast iron skillet for thin steaks. Get it real hot and about a minute on each side give or take.

    Charcoal is tougher for me because my BBQ pit is open and the heat is never consistent.
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  • mplspugmplspug Posts: 16,014 AG
    Lol, 3 years is how long mine last too. I had a cover, but the sun made it crack eventually and I never replaced it. I'm on my second drip pan.

    I suppose I could remove a flareup guard and give that a shot.

    Anyone have a infrared burner grill? I was going to try and give that style grill a shot when they first came out with them. Heck, I don't even know if they still make them. I forget what the cons were, but it must have been enough for me to stick to a propane grill.
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  • Soda PopinskiSoda Popinski Posts: 16,704 AG
    I had one, well it was called an infrared burner. It was just more heat shields. Didn't like it at all.
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  • PolarPolar Posts: 22,492 AG
    And this is how it starts.....

    I can't remember the last time I ate beef. I'm pretty sure it was this year. It's hard to find good beef, beef that has not been frozen, cut from where and how you like it. It's become so expensive.....but when it's good....it's very satisfying.

    I'm going to grow my own next year...I'll have way more than I need so.....

    I eat steak, rare at least once a week.
  • mplspugmplspug Posts: 16,014 AG
    I had one, well it was called an infrared burner. It was just more heat shields. Didn't like it at all.

    If I remember how they worked, those shields are actually what emits the infrared heat. I think the biggest con was that they took to long to preheat? I don't know. I figure if they were really any good, by now people would talk about them like they talk about what green eggs have done for charcoal grilling.

    A lot of times what I end up doing is cooking the first side with the lid up and then I flip them onto grates that are not being used and close the lit. I just hate closing the lid on steaks when grilling. I feel like I am finishing them by baking them.

    This all reminds me of a funny story. I like using a cast iron pan on the grill to make blackened grouper. I used the Ove Gloves to pull the pan off and basically insta seared my fingers. Wait, that wasn't funny at all.
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  • Soda PopinskiSoda Popinski Posts: 16,704 AG
    mplspug wrote: »
    If I remember how they worked, those shields are actually what emits the infrared heat. I think the biggest con was that they took to long to preheat? I don't know. I figure if they were really any good, by now people would talk about them like they talk about what green eggs have done for charcoal grilling.

    A lot of times what I end up doing is cooking the first side with the lid up and then I flip them onto grates that are not being used and close the lit. I just hate closing the lid on steaks when grilling. I feel like I am finishing them by baking them.

    This all reminds me of a funny story. I like using a cast iron pan on the grill to make blackened grouper. I used the Ove Gloves to pull the pan off and basically insta seared my fingers. Wait, that wasn't funny at all.

    That oven glove is bonafide horse crap! It's worthless.

    actually i know a few people who get their cast iron skillet red hot, and sear their steaks, then finish them in the oven. Gives them an even cook. I don't, but I worked at Outback Steakhouse as a corporate trainer for 5 years, i don't really have any trouble cooking steaks.
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  • TarponatorTarponator Posts: 19,973 AG
    mplspug wrote: »
    This is the one I saw that had reviews.

    Gourmia GSV900 Sous Vide Self Contained Circulating Water Oven with Rack

    I am wondering if I should go the "contained" route or the stick route. I'd think, and I am making a big assumption here, that a stick vs contained unit both at $100, the stick would be a higher quality.

    Not sure about the quality, but I would go for the stick one because of the flexibility -- with the contained unit you're limited by the size, with a stick unit you can cook a whole lot more at the same time by increasing the size of the pot you use.
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