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  • fins4mefins4me Posts: 14,483 AG
    Tarponator wrote: »
    That's not spending the least, though.

    Although they suggest something about the EU and markets I do not think you intended, your numbers are relative to income and are meaningless when it comes to knowing which spends the least and are more driven by GDP than by the food industry, and it's no surprise then when the countries that lead in GDP per capita appear at the top of your list.

    You said you graduated college, right? I really shouldn't need to tell you this.

    Even moving past all this and presuming that's the correct measure, given our (and the EUs and Singapore's) more-stringent food laws would suggest that a market can both thrive and be regulated heavily at the same time -- which, I presume, was not the intent of your post.

    Perhaps you should rethink your approach here.


    I am sure there are Somalians and Ethiopians who spend much less. You are welcome to go and dine with them.
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  • GardawgGardawg Posts: 16,627 AG
    mplspug wrote: »
    Wait, where does chocolate milk come from then?
    .

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  • TarponatorTarponator Posts: 19,932 AG
    fins4me wrote: »
    I am sure there are Somalians and Ethiopians who spend much less. You are welcome to go and dine with them.

    Thanks, but I prefer to visit more advanced societies. Oddly enough, none of the food I have eaten during those travels has gotten me sick.

    Even more oddly enough, it's you, not me, who is making arguments for the closer-to-free markets both these countries share.

    Guess the free market isn't working in Somalia or Ethiopia, is it?

    Next time you might consider thinking through the numbers you suggest are a measure of the point you're trying to make, so your response is something more effective than "why don't you just leave if you don't like it".

    What's next, are you going to take your ball and go home and tell your mommy I've been mean to you?
  • TarponatorTarponator Posts: 19,932 AG
    mustang190 wrote: »
    Ever been in a South Korean fish market?
    Or a Egyptian open air market?
    You better have one hell of a stomach lined with titanium.

    No, but I ate sushi from an open-air fish market in Taipei. No issue. Ate at more than one place in China where I was the only caucasian. Zippo. Indonesia? The food was fabulous and dirt cheap! They warned me not to eat street food in Bangkok. My digestive tract was just fine afterwards. I guess I am just lucky.

    In Singapore, the food was beyond fabulous. And despite being the most expensive place in the world to live and a country with virtually no farmers (fins, you will want to note that), the food is amazingly cheap. For instance, you could get lunch, say of rice, duck, and two vegetables for $3USD, and the food in Singapore is among the safest in the world. The same reason it's safe here: No some fantasy self-regulating free-market BS, but rather strong regulation.

    Now, it's not all sunshine and roses in the rest of the world. The only place I could get a good steak on that side of the world was Tokyo, and, man, it was expensive! I think they said the cow was massaged every day. The Japanese are an odd bunch.

    What was your experience in South Korea and Egypt?

    Or do you just have such an aversion to any country whose flag isn't the Stars & Stripes that you believe everything you read on the Internet?
  • fins4mefins4me Posts: 14,483 AG
    Tarponator wrote: »
    Thanks, but I prefer to visit more advanced societies. Oddly enough, none of the food I have eaten during those travels has gotten me sick.

    Even more oddly enough, it's you, not me, who is making arguments for the closer-to-free markets both these countries share.

    Guess the free market isn't working in Somalia or Ethiopia, is it?

    Next time you might consider thinking through the numbers you suggest are a measure of the point you're trying to make, so your response is something more effective than "why don't you just leave if you don't like it".

    What's next, are you going to take your ball and go home and tell your mommy?

    I only take advice from the few individuals in position to help me advance my level of profit. You are certainly not in their league.

    Regarding Somalia and Ethiopia, ,, it was you who made the statement regarding places where less is spent on food than the developed non ****holes I pointed out. If you want cheaper food than the nations I listed,,, have at it.

    As far as your childish closing comment,,,, In business, I play to win. Not to be fair, not to look good not for honor. I play to win. Nothing else matters.

    If I leave with the football,,, it means I beat your *** to the point you didn't want anything to do with that ball anymore and left it on the field of play.
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    "Today is MINE"
  • GardawgGardawg Posts: 16,627 AG
    To better quantify the impact of foodborne diseases on health in the United States, we compiled and analyzed information from multiple surveillance systems and other sources. We estimate that foodborne diseases cause approximately 76 million illnesses, 325,000 hospitalizations, and 5,000 deaths in the United States each year.
    https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/5/5/99-0502_article



    STATISTIC BRAIN



    Food Poison Statistics







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    Food Poison Statistics
    Data
    Annual number of food related illnesses in the US 76 Million


    Annual number of food related hospitalizations in the US 325,000


    Annual number of food related deaths in the US 5.000


    Number of annual deaths due to Salmonella, Listeria, and Toxoplasma 1,800


    Number of annual deaths due to unknown agents 3200


    Foods with the highest chance of food poisoning

    Risk Index


    Meat / Beef 0.23

    Poultry / Chicken / Turkey 0.21


    Dairy Products 0.2


    Eggs 0.19


    Salami / Hams 0.14

    Seafood 0.13

    Cooked Rice 0.09



    Cooked Pasta .07


    Salads / Coleslaw / Pasta Salad / Rice Salad 0.05


    Fruit Salads 0.02

    Sources: Center for Disease Control
    Content Author: Statistic Brain

    Date research was conducted: May 22, 2017
    Food Poison Statistics

    http://www.statisticbrain.com/food-poison-statistics/
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  • fins4mefins4me Posts: 14,483 AG
    As I always say. If you do not trust the food the American farmer produces. Then do not eat it.
    ALLISON XB 21,, MERCURY 300 Opti Max Pro Series (Slightly Modified) You can't catch me!!!
    "Today is MINE"
  • TarponatorTarponator Posts: 19,932 AG
    fins4me wrote: »
    I only take advice from the few individuals in position to help me advance my level of profit. You are certainly not in their league.

    I'm quite sure I've lead to more profit in my career, where we measure results in millions and billions, than you have, but think what you want.
    fins4me wrote: »
    Regarding Somalia and Ethiopia, ,, it was you who made the statement regarding places where less is spent on food than the developed non ****holes I pointed out. If you want cheaper food than the nations I listed,,, have at it.

    Thanks, I got it the first time....and I would continue to ignore the second edge on that sword if I were you, too.
    fins4me wrote: »
    As far as your childish closing comment,,,, In business, I play to win. Not to be fair, not to look good not for honor. I play to win. Nothing else matters.

    If I leave with the football,,, it means I beat your *** to the point you didn't want anything to do with that ball anymore and left it on the field of play.

    Your profit-at-all-costs attitude was clear long before you posted this.

    Who's talking about winning in business? We're talking about your childish responses, like the misdirection to Somalia or Ethiopia, not football or your business. We were talking about how your numbers did not -- at all -- make the argument you were making.

    So, instead of simply saying, "You know what, Mike, you're right and here's a better number", instead you've again chosen to focus on the ad hominem instead of the factual part and where you're simply mistaken.

    It wouldn't kill you, you know.
  • TarponatorTarponator Posts: 19,932 AG
    fins4me wrote: »
    As I always say. If you do not trust the food the American farmer produces. Then do not eat it.

    And what happens if you poison the water we drink or the air we breathe?

    I guess we should just move rather than saddle you poor farmers with more soul-cruhsing regulation, right?
  • fins4mefins4me Posts: 14,483 AG
    Tarponator wrote: »
    And what happens if you poison the water we drink or the air we breathe?

    I guess we should just move rather than saddle you poor farmers with more soul-cruhsing regulation, right?
    We are already over regulated. The industry doesn't need any more progressive "help".
    ALLISON XB 21,, MERCURY 300 Opti Max Pro Series (Slightly Modified) You can't catch me!!!
    "Today is MINE"
  • fins4mefins4me Posts: 14,483 AG
    Tarponator wrote: »
    I'm quite sure I've lead to more profit in my career than you have, but think what you want.



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    If that somehow provides you some false inner confidence, ,, you just keep believing that. Why should it be any different? You are wrong about most everything else.
    ALLISON XB 21,, MERCURY 300 Opti Max Pro Series (Slightly Modified) You can't catch me!!!
    "Today is MINE"
  • GardawgGardawg Posts: 16,627 AG
    fins4me wrote: »
    As I always say. If you do not trust the food the American farmer produces. Then do not eat it.

    It's not just the farmers it's the handlers along the way.

    I eat organic fruit and produce and do not eat beef or pork or mutton.

    I do eat fish. Local snapper and Norwegian farm raised salmon.

    I do not trust minimum wage employees to prepare the food that I put into my body.

    That's why all corporate food chains are on my "do not eat there list".
    "Forgiveness is a strange thing. It can be sometimes easier to forgive our enemies than our friends. It can be hardest of all to forgive people we love." Fred Rogers  
  • GardawgGardawg Posts: 16,627 AG
    fins4me wrote: »
    We are already over regulated.


    Tell that to Flint Michigan.
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  • TarponatorTarponator Posts: 19,932 AG
    fins4me wrote: »
    We are already over regulated. The industry doesn't need any more progressive "help".

    Oh, yeah, those dreaded environmental regulations!!!

    Then the whole host of health problems and diseases that follow are just the price to be paid for your type of "progress", I suppose.

    Or are you still under the delusion that the market will just self-regulate itself, all the science to the contrary is incorrect, and the Earth is so limitless that it doesn't matter what we do to it?

    You know, kind of like your type of "experts" like to say....
  • fins4mefins4me Posts: 14,483 AG
    Gardawg wrote: »
    Tell that to Flint Michigan.
    Farming and related regulation had nothing to do with Flint Michigan. It was the ineptitude of decades of Democratic leadership. Or lack thereof.
    ALLISON XB 21,, MERCURY 300 Opti Max Pro Series (Slightly Modified) You can't catch me!!!
    "Today is MINE"
  • TarponatorTarponator Posts: 19,932 AG
    fins4me wrote: »
    If that somehow provides you some false inner confidence, ,, you just keep believing that. Why should it be any different? You are wrong about most everything else.

    No false confidence whatsoever. Just stating facts, and you will note I didn't start the **** waving either.

    In a way, you're right about one thing, I'm wrong all the time.

    Just not in this thread.
  • fins4mefins4me Posts: 14,483 AG
    Tarponator wrote: »
    No false confidence whatsoever. Just stating facts, and you will note I didn't start the **** waving either.

    In a way, you're right about one thing, I'm wrong all the time.

    Just not in this thread.

    Whatever you say revenue generator. Lol
    ALLISON XB 21,, MERCURY 300 Opti Max Pro Series (Slightly Modified) You can't catch me!!!
    "Today is MINE"
  • TarponatorTarponator Posts: 19,932 AG
    fins4me wrote: »
    Farming and related regulation had nothing to do with Flint Michigan. It was the ineptitude of decades of Democratic leadership. Or lack thereof.

    Do you know who Rick Snyder is?
  • TarponatorTarponator Posts: 19,932 AG
    fins4me wrote: »
    Whatever you say revenue generator. Lol

    In this thread, it has been indeed.

    You ready for your next lesson, villein?

    If so, see post #49.
  • fins4mefins4me Posts: 14,483 AG
    Tarponator wrote: »
    Do you know who Rick Snyder is?
    Rick Snyder is the Rhino Governor of Michigan. If you arw suggesting that lead pipes and other water infrastructure systems failed during his rather recent tenure, , you are once again wrong. As to how he handled it,,, that is a sidebar,, not the cause. If you are somehow suggesting I have some loyalty to corrupt weak kneed Rhinos like him., well your wrong once again.
    ALLISON XB 21,, MERCURY 300 Opti Max Pro Series (Slightly Modified) You can't catch me!!!
    "Today is MINE"
  • fins4mefins4me Posts: 14,483 AG
    Flints problems stemmed from a lack of supervision, accountability and reaction during liberal local governance.
    ALLISON XB 21,, MERCURY 300 Opti Max Pro Series (Slightly Modified) You can't catch me!!!
    "Today is MINE"
  • TarponatorTarponator Posts: 19,932 AG
    If I wanted to say all that, I'd have said all that.

    What I was suggesting is that your description of the Flint, Michigan water problems as a result of "the ineptitude of decades of Democratic leadership" is simply not true, and completely ignores the contribution of the single person most responsible for it.

    Although you seem to still be a bit confused as to his role, now you know his name.

    It's going to be raining for a little while longer..... Anything else I can clear up for you?
  • cadmancadman Posts: 43,575 AG
    fins4me wrote: »
    Farming and related regulation had nothing to do with Flint Michigan. It was the ineptitude of decades of Democratic leadership. Or lack thereof.

    Not entirely true. While the local government leadership was lacking, one of the problems was their water being the Flint River. The water in the Flint River is of poor quality, and was severely degraded during the 1970s, due to the presence of fecal coliform bacteria, low dissolved oxygen, plant nutrients, oils, and toxic substances. In 2001, the state ordered the monitoring and cleanup of 134 polluted sites within the Flint River watershed, including industrial complexes, landfills and farms laden with pesticides and fertilizer.

    Read more
    http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/04/us/flint-water-crisis-fast-facts/index.html
    http://www.michigandnr.com/PUBLICATIONS/PDFS/ifr/ifrlibra/Special/Reports/sr27.pdf

    So while it may have only been a minor part of the problem, Farming and regulation played a very small role in the water problems of Flint Michigan.

    Former Mini Mart Magnate

    I am just here for my amusement. 

  • fins4mefins4me Posts: 14,483 AG
    Tarponator wrote: »
    If I wanted to say all that, I'd have said all that.

    What I was suggesting is that your description of the Flint, Michigan water problems as a result of "the ineptitude of decades of Democratic leadership" is simply not true, and completely ignores the contribution of the single person most responsible for it.

    Although you seem to still be a bit confused as to his role, now you know his name.

    It's going to be raining for a little while longer..... Anything else I can clear up for you?

    Tell me more about the millions or billions in revenue you earned,,,, oops sorry I mean generated.
    ALLISON XB 21,, MERCURY 300 Opti Max Pro Series (Slightly Modified) You can't catch me!!!
    "Today is MINE"
  • mplspugmplspug Posts: 16,014 AG
    Tarponator wrote: »

    I guess we should just move...

    No, just you.


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  • TarponatorTarponator Posts: 19,932 AG
    fins4me wrote: »
    Tell me more about the millions or billions in revenue you earned,,,, oops sorry I mean generated.

    Not really interested in talking about me. If you'd like we can take it to PM and talk to either one.
  • TarponatorTarponator Posts: 19,932 AG
    mplspug wrote: »
    No, just you.

    You need another hug?
  • fins4mefins4me Posts: 14,483 AG
    Tarponator wrote: »
    Not really interested in talking about me. If you'd like we can take it to PM and talk to either one.

    That is alright, , I have certain minimal standards regarding who I pm.
    ALLISON XB 21,, MERCURY 300 Opti Max Pro Series (Slightly Modified) You can't catch me!!!
    "Today is MINE"
  • TarponatorTarponator Posts: 19,932 AG
    Does that mean I'm allowed to post your PM to me? :grin

    Check out my other thread, I'd like your opinion....
  • Bimini TwistedBimini Twisted Posts: 11,443 AG
    Funny to see the pride some take in poisoning a generation of Americans, obesity, diabetes and dementia are not a great contribution to society.

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