Although they suggest something about the EU and markets I do not think you intended, your numbers are relative to income and are meaningless when it comes to knowing which spends the least and are more driven by GDP than by the food industry, and it's no surprise then when the countries that lead in GDP per capita appear at the top of your list.
You said you graduated college, right? I really shouldn't need to tell you this.
Even moving past all this and presuming that's the correct measure, given our (and the EUs and Singapore's) more-stringent food laws would suggest that a market can both thrive and be regulated heavily at the same time -- which, I presume, was not the intent of your post.
Perhaps you should rethink your approach here.
I am sure there are Somalians and Ethiopians who spend much less. You are welcome to go and dine with them.
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"Forgiveness is a strange thing. It can be sometimes easier to forgive our enemies than our friends. It can be hardest of all to forgive people we love." Fred Rogers
I am sure there are Somalians and Ethiopians who spend much less. You are welcome to go and dine with them.
Thanks, but I prefer to visit more advanced societies. Oddly enough, none of the food I have eaten during those travels has gotten me sick.
Even more oddly enough, it's you, not me, who is making arguments for the closer-to-free markets both these countries share.
Guess the free market isn't working in Somalia or Ethiopia, is it?
Next time you might consider thinking through the numbers you suggest are a measure of the point you're trying to make, so your response is something more effective than "why don't you just leave if you don't like it".
What's next, are you going to take your ball and go home and tell your mommy I've been mean to you?
Ever been in a South Korean fish market?
Or a Egyptian open air market?
You better have one hell of a stomach lined with titanium.
No, but I ate sushi from an open-air fish market in Taipei. No issue. Ate at more than one place in China where I was the only caucasian. Zippo. Indonesia? The food was fabulous and dirt cheap! They warned me not to eat street food in Bangkok. My digestive tract was just fine afterwards. I guess I am just lucky.
In Singapore, the food was beyond fabulous. And despite being the most expensive place in the world to live and a country with virtually no farmers (fins, you will want to note that), the food is amazingly cheap. For instance, you could get lunch, say of rice, duck, and two vegetables for $3USD, and the food in Singapore is among the safest in the world. The same reason it's safe here: No some fantasy self-regulating free-market BS, but rather strong regulation.
Now, it's not all sunshine and roses in the rest of the world. The only place I could get a good steak on that side of the world was Tokyo, and, man, it was expensive! I think they said the cow was massaged every day. The Japanese are an odd bunch.
What was your experience in South Korea and Egypt?
Or do you just have such an aversion to any country whose flag isn't the Stars & Stripes that you believe everything you read on the Internet?
Thanks, but I prefer to visit more advanced societies. Oddly enough, none of the food I have eaten during those travels has gotten me sick.
Even more oddly enough, it's you, not me, who is making arguments for the closer-to-free markets both these countries share.
Guess the free market isn't working in Somalia or Ethiopia, is it?
Next time you might consider thinking through the numbers you suggest are a measure of the point you're trying to make, so your response is something more effective than "why don't you just leave if you don't like it".
What's next, are you going to take your ball and go home and tell your mommy?
I only take advice from the few individuals in position to help me advance my level of profit. You are certainly not in their league.
Regarding Somalia and Ethiopia, ,, it was you who made the statement regarding places where less is spent on food than the developed non ****holes I pointed out. If you want cheaper food than the nations I listed,,, have at it.
As far as your childish closing comment,,,, In business, I play to win. Not to be fair, not to look good not for honor. I play to win. Nothing else matters.
If I leave with the football,,, it means I beat your *** to the point you didn't want anything to do with that ball anymore and left it on the field of play.
ALLISON XB 21,, MERCURY 300 Opti Max Pro Series (Slightly Modified) You can't catch me!!! "Today is MINE"
To better quantify the impact of foodborne diseases on health in the United States, we compiled and analyzed information from multiple surveillance systems and other sources. We estimate that foodborne diseases cause approximately 76 million illnesses, 325,000 hospitalizations, and 5,000 deaths in the United States each year. https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/5/5/99-0502_article
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Annual number of food related illnesses in the US 76 Million
Annual number of food related hospitalizations in the US 325,000
Annual number of food related deaths in the US 5.000
Number of annual deaths due to Salmonella, Listeria, and Toxoplasma 1,800
Number of annual deaths due to unknown agents 3200
Foods with the highest chance of food poisoning
Risk Index
Meat / Beef 0.23
Poultry / Chicken / Turkey 0.21
Dairy Products 0.2
Eggs 0.19
Salami / Hams 0.14
Seafood 0.13
Cooked Rice 0.09
Cooked Pasta .07
Salads / Coleslaw / Pasta Salad / Rice Salad 0.05
Fruit Salads 0.02
Sources: Center for Disease Control
Content Author: Statistic Brain
Date research was conducted: May 22, 2017
Food Poison Statistics
"Forgiveness is a strange thing. It can be sometimes easier to forgive our enemies than our friends. It can be hardest of all to forgive people we love." Fred Rogers
Regarding Somalia and Ethiopia, ,, it was you who made the statement regarding places where less is spent on food than the developed non ****holes I pointed out. If you want cheaper food than the nations I listed,,, have at it.
Thanks, I got it the first time....and I would continue to ignore the second edge on that sword if I were you, too.
As far as your childish closing comment,,,, In business, I play to win. Not to be fair, not to look good not for honor. I play to win. Nothing else matters.
If I leave with the football,,, it means I beat your *** to the point you didn't want anything to do with that ball anymore and left it on the field of play.
Your profit-at-all-costs attitude was clear long before you posted this.
Who's talking about winning in business? We're talking about your childish responses, like the misdirection to Somalia or Ethiopia, not football or your business. We were talking about how your numbers did not -- at all -- make the argument you were making.
So, instead of simply saying, "You know what, Mike, you're right and here's a better number", instead you've again chosen to focus on the ad hominem instead of the factual part and where you're simply mistaken.
I'm quite sure I've lead to more profit in my career than you have, but think what you want.
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If that somehow provides you some false inner confidence, ,, you just keep believing that. Why should it be any different? You are wrong about most everything else.
ALLISON XB 21,, MERCURY 300 Opti Max Pro Series (Slightly Modified) You can't catch me!!! "Today is MINE"
As I always say. If you do not trust the food the American farmer produces. Then do not eat it.
It's not just the farmers it's the handlers along the way.
I eat organic fruit and produce and do not eat beef or pork or mutton.
I do eat fish. Local snapper and Norwegian farm raised salmon.
I do not trust minimum wage employees to prepare the food that I put into my body.
That's why all corporate food chains are on my "do not eat there list".
"Forgiveness is a strange thing. It can be sometimes easier to forgive our enemies than our friends. It can be hardest of all to forgive people we love." Fred Rogers
"Forgiveness is a strange thing. It can be sometimes easier to forgive our enemies than our friends. It can be hardest of all to forgive people we love." Fred Rogers
We are already over regulated. The industry doesn't need any more progressive "help".
Oh, yeah, those dreaded environmental regulations!!!
Then the whole host of health problems and diseases that follow are just the price to be paid for your type of "progress", I suppose.
Or are you still under the delusion that the market will just self-regulate itself, all the science to the contrary is incorrect, and the Earth is so limitless that it doesn't matter what we do to it?
You know, kind of like your type of "experts" like to say....
If that somehow provides you some false inner confidence, ,, you just keep believing that. Why should it be any different? You are wrong about most everything else.
No false confidence whatsoever. Just stating facts, and you will note I didn't start the **** waving either.
In a way, you're right about one thing, I'm wrong all the time.
Rick Snyder is the Rhino Governor of Michigan. If you arw suggesting that lead pipes and other water infrastructure systems failed during his rather recent tenure, , you are once again wrong. As to how he handled it,,, that is a sidebar,, not the cause. If you are somehow suggesting I have some loyalty to corrupt weak kneed Rhinos like him., well your wrong once again.
ALLISON XB 21,, MERCURY 300 Opti Max Pro Series (Slightly Modified) You can't catch me!!! "Today is MINE"
If I wanted to say all that, I'd have said all that.
What I was suggesting is that your description of the Flint, Michigan water problems as a result of "the ineptitude of decades of Democratic leadership" is simply not true, and completely ignores the contribution of the single person most responsible for it.
Although you seem to still be a bit confused as to his role, now you know his name.
It's going to be raining for a little while longer..... Anything else I can clear up for you?
Farming and related regulation had nothing to do with Flint Michigan. It was the ineptitude of decades of Democratic leadership. Or lack thereof.
Not entirely true. While the local government leadership was lacking, one of the problems was their water being the Flint River. The water in the Flint River is of poor quality, and was severely degraded during the 1970s, due to the presence of fecal coliform bacteria, low dissolved oxygen, plant nutrients, oils, and toxic substances. In 2001, the state ordered the monitoring and cleanup of 134 polluted sites within the Flint River watershed, including industrial complexes, landfills and farms laden with pesticides and fertilizer.
If I wanted to say all that, I'd have said all that.
What I was suggesting is that your description of the Flint, Michigan water problems as a result of "the ineptitude of decades of Democratic leadership" is simply not true, and completely ignores the contribution of the single person most responsible for it.
Although you seem to still be a bit confused as to his role, now you know his name.
It's going to be raining for a little while longer..... Anything else I can clear up for you?
Tell me more about the millions or billions in revenue you earned,,,, oops sorry I mean generated.
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I am sure there are Somalians and Ethiopians who spend much less. You are welcome to go and dine with them.
"Today is MINE"
Thanks, but I prefer to visit more advanced societies. Oddly enough, none of the food I have eaten during those travels has gotten me sick.
Even more oddly enough, it's you, not me, who is making arguments for the closer-to-free markets both these countries share.
Guess the free market isn't working in Somalia or Ethiopia, is it?
Next time you might consider thinking through the numbers you suggest are a measure of the point you're trying to make, so your response is something more effective than "why don't you just leave if you don't like it".
What's next, are you going to take your ball and go home and tell your mommy I've been mean to you?
No, but I ate sushi from an open-air fish market in Taipei. No issue. Ate at more than one place in China where I was the only caucasian. Zippo. Indonesia? The food was fabulous and dirt cheap! They warned me not to eat street food in Bangkok. My digestive tract was just fine afterwards. I guess I am just lucky.
In Singapore, the food was beyond fabulous. And despite being the most expensive place in the world to live and a country with virtually no farmers (fins, you will want to note that), the food is amazingly cheap. For instance, you could get lunch, say of rice, duck, and two vegetables for $3USD, and the food in Singapore is among the safest in the world. The same reason it's safe here: No some fantasy self-regulating free-market BS, but rather strong regulation.
Now, it's not all sunshine and roses in the rest of the world. The only place I could get a good steak on that side of the world was Tokyo, and, man, it was expensive! I think they said the cow was massaged every day. The Japanese are an odd bunch.
What was your experience in South Korea and Egypt?
Or do you just have such an aversion to any country whose flag isn't the Stars & Stripes that you believe everything you read on the Internet?
I only take advice from the few individuals in position to help me advance my level of profit. You are certainly not in their league.
Regarding Somalia and Ethiopia, ,, it was you who made the statement regarding places where less is spent on food than the developed non ****holes I pointed out. If you want cheaper food than the nations I listed,,, have at it.
As far as your childish closing comment,,,, In business, I play to win. Not to be fair, not to look good not for honor. I play to win. Nothing else matters.
If I leave with the football,,, it means I beat your *** to the point you didn't want anything to do with that ball anymore and left it on the field of play.
"Today is MINE"
https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/5/5/99-0502_article
STATISTIC BRAIN
Food Poison Statistics
Share
Food Poison Statistics
Data
Annual number of food related illnesses in the US 76 Million
Annual number of food related hospitalizations in the US 325,000
Annual number of food related deaths in the US 5.000
Number of annual deaths due to Salmonella, Listeria, and Toxoplasma 1,800
Number of annual deaths due to unknown agents 3200
Foods with the highest chance of food poisoning
Risk Index
Meat / Beef 0.23
Poultry / Chicken / Turkey 0.21
Dairy Products 0.2
Eggs 0.19
Salami / Hams 0.14
Seafood 0.13
Cooked Rice 0.09
Cooked Pasta .07
Salads / Coleslaw / Pasta Salad / Rice Salad 0.05
Fruit Salads 0.02
Sources: Center for Disease Control
Content Author: Statistic Brain
Date research was conducted: May 22, 2017
Food Poison Statistics
http://www.statisticbrain.com/food-poison-statistics/
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I'm quite sure I've lead to more profit in my career, where we measure results in millions and billions, than you have, but think what you want.
Thanks, I got it the first time....and I would continue to ignore the second edge on that sword if I were you, too.
Your profit-at-all-costs attitude was clear long before you posted this.
Who's talking about winning in business? We're talking about your childish responses, like the misdirection to Somalia or Ethiopia, not football or your business. We were talking about how your numbers did not -- at all -- make the argument you were making.
So, instead of simply saying, "You know what, Mike, you're right and here's a better number", instead you've again chosen to focus on the ad hominem instead of the factual part and where you're simply mistaken.
It wouldn't kill you, you know.
And what happens if you poison the water we drink or the air we breathe?
I guess we should just move rather than saddle you poor farmers with more soul-cruhsing regulation, right?
"Today is MINE"
"Today is MINE"
It's not just the farmers it's the handlers along the way.
I eat organic fruit and produce and do not eat beef or pork or mutton.
I do eat fish. Local snapper and Norwegian farm raised salmon.
I do not trust minimum wage employees to prepare the food that I put into my body.
That's why all corporate food chains are on my "do not eat there list".
Tell that to Flint Michigan.
Oh, yeah, those dreaded environmental regulations!!!
Then the whole host of health problems and diseases that follow are just the price to be paid for your type of "progress", I suppose.
Or are you still under the delusion that the market will just self-regulate itself, all the science to the contrary is incorrect, and the Earth is so limitless that it doesn't matter what we do to it?
You know, kind of like your type of "experts" like to say....
"Today is MINE"
No false confidence whatsoever. Just stating facts, and you will note I didn't start the **** waving either.
In a way, you're right about one thing, I'm wrong all the time.
Just not in this thread.
Whatever you say revenue generator. Lol
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Do you know who Rick Snyder is?
In this thread, it has been indeed.
You ready for your next lesson, villein?
If so, see post #49.
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"Today is MINE"
What I was suggesting is that your description of the Flint, Michigan water problems as a result of "the ineptitude of decades of Democratic leadership" is simply not true, and completely ignores the contribution of the single person most responsible for it.
Although you seem to still be a bit confused as to his role, now you know his name.
It's going to be raining for a little while longer..... Anything else I can clear up for you?
Not entirely true. While the local government leadership was lacking, one of the problems was their water being the Flint River. The water in the Flint River is of poor quality, and was severely degraded during the 1970s, due to the presence of fecal coliform bacteria, low dissolved oxygen, plant nutrients, oils, and toxic substances. In 2001, the state ordered the monitoring and cleanup of 134 polluted sites within the Flint River watershed, including industrial complexes, landfills and farms laden with pesticides and fertilizer.
Read more
http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/04/us/flint-water-crisis-fast-facts/index.html
http://www.michigandnr.com/PUBLICATIONS/PDFS/ifr/ifrlibra/Special/Reports/sr27.pdf
So while it may have only been a minor part of the problem, Farming and regulation played a very small role in the water problems of Flint Michigan.
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I am just here for my amusement.
Tell me more about the millions or billions in revenue you earned,,,, oops sorry I mean generated.
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No, just you.
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Not really interested in talking about me. If you'd like we can take it to PM and talk to either one.
You need another hug?
That is alright, , I have certain minimal standards regarding who I pm.
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