Handguns
Subscribe
Home› Southeast General Fishing & The Outdoors
2amigo
Posts: 8,923 Admiral
Way overzealous PBSO
2amigo
Posts: 8,923 Admiral
A friend of ours was pulled over yesterday and I copied and pasted what she reported. Experienced boaters, (firefighter, lifeguard) very respectful of law enforcement, no beer bottles on the boat. Kids were all all seated safely with lifeguard paddle boards secured to boat. They said it seemed like the female deputy was on something she was screaming and yelling so much. I know a decent amount of sheriff and city officers and all are amazing at their job but this sounds way over the top.
I appreciate PBSO - Palm Beach County Sheriff's Office's presence on our waterways. We have only had pleasant interactions in all of years on the boat.
Yesterday, on our boat we had two couples with 7 kids our day was amazing, most of the kids had their first boat day ever. On our way home, tired, kids sleeping and chilling on the front of the boat, a PBSO pulled us over (not an issue), there were two men and a lady... the lady was the most hostile I have EVER encountered. She yelled and screamed at us and the kids, told us not to touch the boat (however we have amazing amounts of wake rocking and smacking the boats), she was AGGRESSIVE over the top, wouldnt let us speak to her at all, told us "dont make this a stressful event". Once she lambasted us for multiple of shocking accusations, she turned it over to Cpl Pollock who then assaulted us verbally and demeaned 4 adults in front of the kids. We have a cuddy cabin where the kids retreated completely scared and I told the officers "we have several kids on the boat, lets not frighten them please". I had a sleeping baby in my arms who they insisted wake up. They asked for EVERY SINGLE ITEM REQUIRED ON A BOAT, which we had.
AJ told them he is a Boynton Firefighter, he gave them ID and someone else mentioned he had recently retired. They then went after him for "falsifying" that he is a firefighter (because he is retired.... not 'thank you for your service', not 'congrats')!!! My jaw hurts today, clenching my teeth because i had to allow this treatment of our families. My husband is a veteran for the City of Boynton Beach firefighters, a top place City of Delray Beach waterman/lifeguard, and current lifeguard for Martin County. Water safety is no joke, we see so many unsafe boaters out there from drunks to drugs to 3-engine heavy hull boats packed with 16 year olds doing fireball. Im fine with getting pulled over and asking me for all the required items, Im even ok with a ticket for what was NOT A FAULTY FIRE EXTINGUISHER BUT A FAULTY GAUGE ON MY FULL EXTINGUISHER (but there was no place to correct this officer). HOWEVER after the basics, PBSO should have moved along and made the water safer with "bigger fish to fry" than us. This was 5:16pm yesterday afternoon just north of the Jup bridge (everyone probably saw us), do you know how many drunk boaters passed us while we were being verbally assaulted? Do you know how much wake got thrown at us while tied up to their boat, that we couldnt touch to spare the wake bashing?
PBSO, we will be filing a complaint against Cpl Pollock and "his boss" as he so eloquently put it. So many things wrong with this scenario yesterday probably the worse was how scared the kids were and will be when now approached by an officer.... this is how fear is bred, so good job Pollock and "boss".
Ihttps://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10154682282051270&set=a.47784131269.63463.739751269&type=3
I appreciate PBSO - Palm Beach County Sheriff's Office's presence on our waterways. We have only had pleasant interactions in all of years on the boat.
Yesterday, on our boat we had two couples with 7 kids our day was amazing, most of the kids had their first boat day ever. On our way home, tired, kids sleeping and chilling on the front of the boat, a PBSO pulled us over (not an issue), there were two men and a lady... the lady was the most hostile I have EVER encountered. She yelled and screamed at us and the kids, told us not to touch the boat (however we have amazing amounts of wake rocking and smacking the boats), she was AGGRESSIVE over the top, wouldnt let us speak to her at all, told us "dont make this a stressful event". Once she lambasted us for multiple of shocking accusations, she turned it over to Cpl Pollock who then assaulted us verbally and demeaned 4 adults in front of the kids. We have a cuddy cabin where the kids retreated completely scared and I told the officers "we have several kids on the boat, lets not frighten them please". I had a sleeping baby in my arms who they insisted wake up. They asked for EVERY SINGLE ITEM REQUIRED ON A BOAT, which we had.
AJ told them he is a Boynton Firefighter, he gave them ID and someone else mentioned he had recently retired. They then went after him for "falsifying" that he is a firefighter (because he is retired.... not 'thank you for your service', not 'congrats')!!! My jaw hurts today, clenching my teeth because i had to allow this treatment of our families. My husband is a veteran for the City of Boynton Beach firefighters, a top place City of Delray Beach waterman/lifeguard, and current lifeguard for Martin County. Water safety is no joke, we see so many unsafe boaters out there from drunks to drugs to 3-engine heavy hull boats packed with 16 year olds doing fireball. Im fine with getting pulled over and asking me for all the required items, Im even ok with a ticket for what was NOT A FAULTY FIRE EXTINGUISHER BUT A FAULTY GAUGE ON MY FULL EXTINGUISHER (but there was no place to correct this officer). HOWEVER after the basics, PBSO should have moved along and made the water safer with "bigger fish to fry" than us. This was 5:16pm yesterday afternoon just north of the Jup bridge (everyone probably saw us), do you know how many drunk boaters passed us while we were being verbally assaulted? Do you know how much wake got thrown at us while tied up to their boat, that we couldnt touch to spare the wake bashing?
PBSO, we will be filing a complaint against Cpl Pollock and "his boss" as he so eloquently put it. So many things wrong with this scenario yesterday probably the worse was how scared the kids were and will be when now approached by an officer.... this is how fear is bred, so good job Pollock and "boss".
Ihttps://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10154682282051270&set=a.47784131269.63463.739751269&type=3
Replies
If this account is accurate, then some form of discipline & retraining would seem to be necessary.
I have to wonder if perhaps the extra workload of the holiday weekend may have forced the SO to use personnel that they would not have normally wanted to use in that position.
I am sorry to hear that children had to experience that event.
Best wishes for smooth waters ahead.
Many things to do.
Knots to be unraveled
'fore the darkness falls on you
###
As a LEO for 40 +years there is always 3 sides to the investigation there side and there side and the truth.
It is still sad to here officers , act with a attitude.
One unhappy day ending a great day
And you know this how? Were you there? If so, post your side of the story..............
Bearmatic, agree, at least 3 sides to a story, all from people on site
Member #10822
Make sure it's reported, preferably by more an one person. It's the only way we can get rid of the bad apples.
Avatar photo: Grandparents and my Dad at Blowing Rocks, Jupiter 1923.
Sounds like a complaint is going to be filed, so I wont say. I'll stand by my original post.
You've never dealt with a high strung crazy women? You are a lucky guy. :wink
"Prediction is very difficult, especially if it's about the future." Niels Bohr
enough said, you indirectly answered my question.
Member #10822
Well they have been stopped before and never had an issue. I know these people. 4 adults with the same story. I have come across **** cops and aholes in just about every profession. Aholes are always the exception, not the rule. In a lot of cases there can be one side that is right. I will choose To believe the group that is following up hard with this who I know to be law abiding respectful people. I have been pulled over by car and boat. I have had respectful polite officers who gave me a ticket and have had no problem with that. I have also had the opposite. I act the same way way every time I have been stopped. I completely respect our law enforcement and know they have a tough time on occasion. But I have seen things like this happen before when things have gotten a little out of control. Do water police have cameras on their vests? This would settle everything.
I mean imagine a "policewoman" writing a ticket to a "fireman" for a "faulty fire extinguisher"..........all while the "fireman's wife" had to "stand there and watch".
Some stories just never gonna have a happy ending.:grin :rotflmao :rotflmao :grin
If its under 36ft, you are a bullseye to be pulled over by the law for a safety check.
11 people on a boat will get you attention.
That aside, I hope that the incident is looked into & that the outcome is to everyone's satisfaction. I doubt that any single outcome could possibly be to everyone's satisfaction, but hey, hoping for something nice doesn't cost any extra, so I'm going to go that route.
I'll also keep my fingers crossed & hope that this thread doesn't degenerate into something that needs to get locked while I wait to hear from the OP about how it all turns out.
Not on a Sunday before Memorial Day or Labor Day it doesn't, and it shouldn't. There are much bigger fish to fry if the LEO's open their eyes for 5 minutes on the water during those times.
No dog in this fight and do believe that there is surely another side to this story; just know that LEO has other people to pull over instead o f wasting time on a sunday pulling over a boat SOLELY for having 11 people on it without further cause (acting like drunk ****, poor driving, underage drinking, etc). She also did not mention getting a ticket for the number of people/lack of PFD's.
Edit: Why is this even a post? Just saying...
Pretty sure it's a wimmen' thing. :blowkiss
Or maybe they had to cut & paste it here.......cause facebook
wasn't drummin up enough drama.:rotflmao
3
when we say the same thing about welfare recipients, you cry like a wounded buffalo Sopchoppy
It's their money, they spend it how they like. Truth and honesty have nothing to do with it. - Mr Jr
"“A radical is one who advocates sweeping changes in the existing laws and methods of government.” "
Just wanted to know the size, assume it's decent with cuddy cabin.
Walk around. 7 kids, 4 adults. I have had 4 adults and Three kids on an 18 mako before. It's not that crowded. Kids are small. One of their kids was a baby. Life jackets accounted for. Go to Lake Boca, Beer can island, peanut etc. tell me how many people you see on a triple or quad center console, bass thumping, way too many young adults on board, some not of age drinking. Law enforcement does their best to try to keep the peace and not interfering with fun. I get this. It's a tough position. You don't want to keep busting people. Same as any downtown with bars. You could put up roadblocks every Saturday night and constantly bust people. There is a happy medium to keep the areas desirable and keeping the peace. Our law enforcement agencies do a pretty dam good job of this. This was a different scenario.
Life begin's as soon as I leave the dock!
I believe fishknut is a LEO, and may have even been one of the cops on the boat. As has been said before there are 3 sides to every story, I wasn't there so can't comment on what happened but it sounds like somewhere in the middle is the truth as I have always found fish to be an honest type too. LEOs have a tough job and are generally underpaid, but that type of behavior (if it happened as written) is pretty unacceptable. Everyone has bad days though, I'm sure everyone here has had them too. Again I wasn't there but hopefully a mutually acceptable outcome can be had if everyone is civil and understanding, even if someone has to eat a little crow it makes you a better person in the long run.
Agreed. Hopefully something is learned from this.
From his answer, that is my take on it. Nothing against him, just his original point blank statement kind of pointed in that direction. Trying to maintain some semblance of order on a holiday weekend is a tough job. Still, no excuse for going off the deep end, if that is indeed what happened.
Member #10822