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Texas has what 30-40 full time charter boats? Just told you no one in real mass runs 2-3 charters per day more like 1.2-1.3 trips per day thru the season.
Naw, too little too late Ard. We told you EDF-funded captains that y'all were doing this backwards years ago - document your catches FIRST, then you can look at separating the fish LATER. I presented the OFS Permit Plan at the Sector Separation Workshop in 2010 but the Gulf Council nor the EDF-funded minions were interested and pushed Sector Separation anyway, knowing full well at the time that the data was crap.
NOW, documenting your catches when y'all have 49 days and we have 3 is going to do nothing but shift the fish over to your side even more since you are now creating a landings history based on a biased, weighted format. We should have been documenting back when we had equal fishing days and an actual season to fish.
How do you think Crabtree will react when the mandatory reporting goes against what HE has endorsed as the factual data - the buck stops with him since he has been repeatedly alerted about the data deficiencies yet has made the decision to accept the data anyway over the years.
We won't have access to the ELB data since it will be considered "proprietary" so they can manipulate it at will anyway. It's kinda like the Beaufort headboat mandatory reporting system - I emailed a Gulf Council member a while back looking for the 2016 headboat landings numbers - guess what? They still did NOT have those numbers this spring. How hard can it be to count the fish on 67 headboats for a 45 day season that ended 7 months prior? My 16 year old could have done it in one day.
Total and complete joke, as your ELB reporting will also be.
It's time to burn the whole thing to the ground and start over.
I don't believe they are stupid enough to allow a system to be put in place that will accurately and truthfully report the "entire trip data". They will undoubtly leave something out or somewhere to "massage the numbers".
All it would take is one years truthful report of every boat that fished, how many fishermen, every fish caught whether kept or released, and how many hours that were fished.
If that data were run through a "catch per unit of effort" program and the numbers crunched.........it would show just how "realistic" the NMFS and King Roys numbers have been. Never gonna let that happen.
By the way, most States have well managed and healthy fresh water populations..........and the CPUE model is widely used to access the abundance or lack of the fish.:wink
Not nonsense - REALITY.
I emailed a Gulf Council member a while back looking for the 2016 headboat landings numbers - guess what? They still did NOT have those numbers this spring. How hard can it be to count the fish on 67 headboats for a 45 day season that ended 7 months prior?
The same thing will happen with the CFH ELB - nobody will have access to the data and Roy Crabtree and Co. is not going to release any data that is not in line with their BS bogus numbers. Show me how transparent this will be and then we can talk - until then, this is just total BS.
The facts are the facts - don't shoot the messenger. It's a matter of public record. Don't need you EDF-funded types harassing the few Gulf Council members actually fighting the good fight.
I think I can answer that. Here you go!
1) Collusion
2) Corruption
3) Bribery
4) Trading in Influence
5) Cronyism
6) Patronage
7) Criminal Enterprise
8) Unholy Alliance
9) Gombeenism
10) Graft
11) Influence Peddling
12) Malfeasance
13) Malice
14) Abuse Of Power
15) Conflict Of Interest
From its sham origins starting in 2010 with the shameful attempt at indoctrination of the masses at the first NMFS / EDF meeting in Tampa, it's called "Sector Separation".
Well done! I do not think you missed a one!!!!
Now working for EDF front group Gulf Seafood Institute. Hmmmmm.
http://gulfseafoodinstitute.org/gsi-board-gulf-seafood-institute/
So Hilton you have some Documentation showing that EDF funds the Gulf Seafood Institute or is this just more of your opinionated lies again. I can not believe you are actually a moderator. What a joke.
Flexibility in Rebuilding Timelines:
Timelines for rebuilding fisheries must be relaxed to enhance flexibility for fishery managers.
Annual Catch Limits:
The process for establishing ACLs should be revised to increase flexibility, particularly in cases where a fish stock lacks enough data to make sound management decisions.
When was the last time y'all heard EDF wanting Flexibility in rebuilding timelines and Flexibility in ACLs???
That other recreational fishing advocacy group :wink the Ocean Conservancy funded the GSI kickoff.
http://gulfseafoodnews.com/2013/09/08/gulf-seafood-institute-becomes-reality-with-20000-grant-from-ocean-conservancy/
Thanks Mark, but I'm sure EDF funds the Ocean Conservancy right Hilton? Since apparently listening to him EDF runs the world.
Don't make me go there. It certainly isn't rocket science and with just a little effort you can see for yourself the circle of friends (and the money flows) in the environmental 501 (c) (3) community. If one requires plausible deniability in a certain area,they grant money to another 501 (c) (3) to take care of business for them. It's a rather common practice actually.
Way back when - back when I actually gave a **** - I spent a few months charting the flow of money within this vast society of elitists who self anoint with what is in their minds a superior intellect that grants them the right to tell the remainder of society what to do, think, eat and drive, lest we all die early deaths due to our own stupidity.
But we don't really have to worry about them hiding out much these days - as since November their brains have completely short-circuited and so many are acting out and placing on full public display their true chronic, petulant behavior. It's pretty funny actually!
But yes, when the mood strikes me again, I would be happy to flow chart the money flows that you just might not feel actually exist. The result of course would become a blinding flash of the obvious for you to ponder and absorb. Then you can decide who's telling the truth.
Now Ard is claiming that the Gulf Seafood Institute is legit, and not a front group for the commercial/enviro interests. Pew, EDF, OC, et al are all guilty in this undue influence on our fisheries policies. Ard's Charter Fisherman's Association (CFA) was formed when The Gulf of Mexico Reef Fish Shareholder's Alliance (Shareholders) laundered $48,000 to CFA for it's seed money. Why would a commercial fishing association fund the formation of a recreational charter organization? Where did the Shareholders get that $48,000? The Shareholders have filed multiple lawsuits in recent years, ALL paid for by; THE ENVIRONMENTAL DEFENSE FUND.
The Environmental Defense Fund also created/formed the Shareholders by the way - yes Ard, THE ENVIRONMENTAL DEFENSE FUND.
Ask Tom Ard how many hundreds of thousands of dollars the THE ENVIRONMENTAL DEFENSE FUND given to his Charter Fisherman's Association. Of course, he will not answer that very simple basic question. Ask Ard WHY a rogue enviro group would want to give his CFA such a giant sum of money.
It's supposedly illegal for Gulf Council members to accept any form of compensation from outside groups while on the Council. However, if they do the bidding of certain groups while in a position to affect change, perhaps there is a golden parachute waiting once they leave the Gulf Council.
Anyone know what, if anything, that Corky Perret, Harlon Pearce, Bob Gill, or even current sitting Gulf Council member Johnny Greene are being paid as board members/employees of The Gulf Seafood Institute?
Great video.
Here's the entire series: http://www.fox8live.com/category/322517/hooked-up-a-lee-zurik-investigation?clienttype=generic