NFL Draft

fishdish

Who's watching the draft tonight?

frank

i'll follow it on a sports app to see Tampa's pick, and read about where Gators get picked later
not going to sit and watch it on tv to see the whole thing

Soda Popinski

I will be watching. Wondering if Cleveland will Brown it up and take Trubisky instead of Garrett. If they do I'll laugh.

tag

I'll watch about an hour to see who the Jags pick then read about it tomorrow.

TampaTarpon5

tag wrote: »

I'll watch about an hour to see who the Jags pick then read about it tomorrow.

Hopefully Garrett falls to them, otherwise if they take a RB i'll chock the season up as another one below .500

RB in the top 10 is an absolute joke of a pick.

TampaTarpon5

frank wrote: »

i'll follow it on a sports app to see Tampa's pick, and read about where Gators get picked later
not going to sit and watch it on tv to see the whole thing

I'm hoping they trade down and target a DB, maybe even one of the boys from Florida that seem to be dropping for some reason. Funny how a player gets rated so high in the weeks theyre actually playing football but then ball in the draft because they couldn't run around in gym clothes the way people thought they should. IDK, seems backwards to me.

Soda Popinski

If Garrett doesn't go #1 overall, Cleveland should be kicked out of the NFL and be forced to join the CFL. I'm not a Browns fan but he's a no brainer.

Jacksonville could do a lot at 4, like trade back to 12 because Cleveland wants Trubisky and want to move up from 12. Jacksonville could get the 12th overall and take Clevelands 33rd pick plus their 3rd round as well. I'd move back and draft Dalvin Cook at 12 then go BPA from there if I were Jacksonville.

TampaTarpon5

Soda Popinski wrote: »

If Garrett doesn't go #1 overall, Cleveland should be kicked out of the NFL and be forced to join the CFL. I'm not a Browns fan but he's a no brainer.

Jacksonville could do a lot at 4, like trade back to 12 because Cleveland wants Trubisky and want to move up from 12. Jacksonville could get the 12th overall and take Clevelands 33rd pick plus their 3rd round as well. I'd move back and draft Dalvin Cook at 12 then go BPA from there if I were Jacksonville.

I agree they should trade back but not for a RB, they do have chris ivory who led the AFC in rushing on a terrible jets team 2yr ago. I watched a lot of jags games and if they could just find someone that can pass accurately it would open up the run game. 90% of the plays the opposing defense has 8 guys in the box because theyre not afraid of bortles completing a pass down field, if he does they'll drop a guy back for a couple plays and eventually put him back up front. Bortles looked like garbage last year but to me I think it really starts with the line. Not even dalvin cook, or fournette can get passed an 8 man NFL stacked box.

Soda Popinski

TampaTarpon5 wrote: »

I agree they should trade back but not for a RB, they do have chris ivory who led the AFC in rushing on a terrible jets team 2yr ago. I watched a lot of jags games and if they could just find someone that can pass accurately it would open up the run game. 90% of the plays the opposing defense has 8 guys in the box because theyre not afraid of bortles completing a pass down field, if he does they'll drop a guy back for a couple plays and eventually put him back up front. Bortles looked like garbage last year but to me I think it really starts with the line. Not even dalvin cook, or fournette can get passed an 8 man NFL stacked box.

I didn't watch them much so i'll defer knowledge. I don't think there's a good olineman that i'd take at 4 or 12. If they want a QB there will probably be one back at 12 if they did move back. I don't think I'd take Trubisky at 4 though. Maybe one of the safeties Hooker or Adams those guys are beasts. We had Marrone in Buffalo and i really didn't care for his offense at all. That draw up the middle every 1st down was college level bullcrap.

Jacksonville should have a good young defense, maybe keep building on that and look for offensive weapons later on. That or maybe OJ Howard at 4, that guy is going to be good.

fishdish

I am a Browns fan and if they take a qb in the first round I will lose my mind. I hope this is just smoke and mirrors to manipulate the draft and they aren't that dumb.

Soda Popinski

fishdish wrote: »

I am a Browns fan and if they take a qb in the first round I will lose my mind. I hope this is just smoke and mirrors to manipulate the draft and they aren't that dumb.

I think at 12 they could take a QB and feel pretty good about it. Trubisky or Watson would be a good pick at 12, but not 1st overall. And trading up for one would be a mistake too.

fishdish

I don't think any of the QB's in this years draft will be better than what they already have on the roster in the next two years. Go crazy on D and trade the farm for a qb next year if you think a pick is worth it. They'll have an average O this year without any help from the draft. Take your defense from a D rating to a B this year and make the necessary moves in 2018.

Soda Popinski

Why haven't they signed Jay Cutler yet? I do think that if they used picks 1, 12, and 33 all on defense they could build something really REALLY nasty up in Cleveland so that would be a great way to go. Garrett, Barnett, best CB at 33 and look out. Or Garrett, Reddick, CB. Something along those lines.

fishdish

I don't think Cutler would be an option because they are trying to change the culture. Kessler didn't do too bad for a rookie thrown into the fire. If he's there in 2nd or 3rd round I would love to see them roll the dice on Mahomes. It will take him a while to figure out the pro game but **** can he sling it! He comes off as a humble kid thats willing to learn too.

mindyabiness

I'll wait until tomorrow.

TampaTarpon5

fishdish wrote: »

I don't think Cutler would be an option because they are trying to change the culture. Kessler didn't do too bad for a rookie thrown into the fire. If he's there in 2nd or 3rd round I would love to see them roll the dice on Mahomes. It will take him a while to figure out the pro game but **** can he sling it! He comes off as a humble kid thats willing to learn too.

I was just about to say, Kessler looked fine when healthy.

Madbeach

Cleveland should just hire Kevin Costner to manage the team.

"With the first pick of the 2017 NFL draft, the Cleveland Browns select.....Dalton Schomp, Punter, Florida Atlantic"

fishdish

I have never come close to watching that movie. I have suffered enough already and don't need the false hope I already get every Spring. If they do something stupid the new boat will be out on the water every Sunday this fall.

Soda Popinski

fishdish wrote: »

I have never come close to watching that movie. I have suffered enough already and don't need the false hope I already get every Spring. If they do something stupid the new boat will be out on the water every Sunday this fall.

That may not be a bad thing either. If my Bills do something "Billsy" like draft Dalvin cook at 10, i'll be livid. Or a QB. NO QBs NO RBs in the 1st round Buffalo!!! Don't be STUPID

fishdish

Poor Bears fans

frank

TampaTarpon5 wrote: »

I'm hoping they trade down and target a DB,.

they could have done that, jabril peppers was there later, but they did well getting the best te in the draft and he and brate and evans are going to drive some defenses crazy next season
this is good

frank

fishdish wrote: »

Poor Bears fans

it's cool man, they didn't need al those picks, better to move up to get the guy at 2 they would have gotten at 3, unless they were scared san fran would have traded the pick to someone else that would have taken a qb

poor mike glennon though, always the steady backup

TampaTarpon5

frank wrote: »

they could have done that, jabril peppers was there later, but they did well getting the best te in the draft and he and brate and evans are going to drive some defenses crazy next season
this is good

Yeah I cant complain about that at all. Drafts always amaze me. Its weird how late in the college season certain guys are ranked really high purely based on production on the field, then after months of no football they drop (UF DBs, and Cam Robinson) just interesting to me

Soda Popinski

I can't believe the Bears gave up the farm for that pick. The 49ers wanted Thomas the whole time, i don't think they would have traded back. Cleveland didn't Browns it up, they actually did the smart thing, move back, get more picks, take good players with a lot of upside. They could take a QB now and nobody will bat an eyelash.

Thank GOD Buffalo didn't take Dalvin Cook. Such a Billsy thing to do. Stockpiling 1st round picks for 2018 to get Sam Darnold from USC!

TampaTarpon5

Soda Popinski wrote: »

I can't believe the Bears gave up the farm for that pick. The 49ers wanted Thomas the whole time, i don't think they would have traded back. Cleveland didn't Browns it up, they actually did the smart thing, move back, get more picks, take good players with a lot of upside. They could take a QB now and nobody will bat an eyelash.

Thank GOD Buffalo didn't take Dalvin Cook. Such a Billsy thing to do. Stockpiling 1st round picks for 2018 to get Sam Darnold from USC!

Love the idea of stockpiling top 75 picks when your teams needs more than just one guy. Wish the jags did that.

fishdish

I am shocked how early the QB's and WR's went. The Browns did pretty good and the Buc's are going to be fun to watch. I would love if they landed Mixon.

TampaTarpon5

fishdish wrote: »

I am shocked how early the QB's and WR's went. The Browns did pretty good and the Buc's are going to be fun to watch. I would love if they landed Mixon.

That's would be awesome. Although theyre saying ole dougie fresh is looking pretty good. that 3 games "off" wont help us win games though

fishdish

No it won't. I wouldn't mind them getting Cook either but I have a bad feeling about his decisions off the field. Tampa is too close to home for him. Regardless, the Bucs are going to be fun to watch. Dolphins should look good too and maybe the Jags will finally wake up.

frank

fishdish wrote: »

I am shocked how early the QB's and WR's went. The Browns did pretty good and the Buc's are going to be fun to watch. I would love if they landed Mixon.

they need more help right now at safety than at the running back position, there are still some talented secondary options in the draft they should target first

fishdish

Yes but I think Cook and Mixon are going to have better Professional careers than Fournette and McCaffrey. I think the two decent safeties will be gone before Tampa picks. Good chance both RB's will be gone by then too.