Missing member?

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  • fishdishfishdish Posts: 1,223 Officer
    I thought he brought a good deal of knowledge to the forum. When he was in pissing matches it was usually entertaining. When he started to get annoying I tuned him out just like I would any other ******. "Don't give the ***** the satisfaction......"

    My only question was why in the hell was he made a moderator? Smart yes, but too much of an ego to have any control. Hell, his signature admitted that.
  • surfmansurfman WC FLPosts: 4,232 Captain
    Gary has unique knowledge of issues especially related to Everglades Restoration.

    His absence is another sign of problems with this forum.

    Ditto
    Tight Lines, Steve
    My posts are my opinion only.
  • ericfericf Posts: 443 Deckhand
    Forums are built on dialog, participation, and user generated content. Gary may have prodded a bit, but always seemed to be driving discussion of the issue at hand. Maybe not everyone felt he pushed in the direction they wished to see conversations go, or distracted from the issue, but over the years I feel he helped enable some of the more meaningful conversations on this forum.

    It's been a shell of its former self for a decade, and the next generation is just on Instagram and Facebook, so who cares anyway?

    Every prolific and interested member leaving is another nail in the coffin. Those rejoicing must like the march to quiet this site has taken.

    Tight Lines,
    Eric Fosbender

    Team Googanator

    2006 Bull Dolphin 22 with 250 Etec
  • drgibbydrgibby Posts: 1,220 Officer
    ericf wrote: »
    Forums are built on dialog, participation, and user generated content. Gary may have prodded a bit, but always seemed to be driving discussion of the issue at hand. Maybe not everyone felt he pushed in the direction they wished to see conversations go, or distracted from the issue, but over the years I feel he helped enable some of the more meaningful conversations on this forum.

    It's been a shell of its former self for a decade, and the next generation is just on Instagram and Facebook, so who cares anyway?

    Every prolific and interested member leaving is another nail in the coffin. Those rejoicing must like the march to quiet this site has taken.

    Well stated
  • DPrestonDPreston Posts: 153 Officer
    'Unique' is putting it nicely.
  • SchmidtySchmidty Posts: 6,814 Admiral
    Maybe people just don't understand something......this is not the only site that is dying....many are dead already and it all comes down to the way that they are run.....

    .....mostly into the ground.

    And it is always pizz poor moderation that does it....
    On Wednesday, 1/25/2017...Florida Sportsman "Big Kahunna"......"Triple Threat 33T" gave his "official word"...and greasy thumb print...by saying....."Here's your written rules Schmidty, No Politics in OT. You're welcome."

    ...and with that history was made...:)
  • ericfericf Posts: 443 Deckhand
    Be that as it may, even the sites that are thriving have lousy moderating.

    The issues here have largely been due to loss of archives during data migration, loss of user accounts, unending downtime, and just server related issues that never should be an issue for a site of the size it was here. I bet their monthly traffic is 20% what it used to be, at best, and at a time when the other big players in this market remain strong.

    I had dozens and dozens of reports posted here that basically were my fishing log, was generous with my level of sharing, and those are all lost on some hard drive somewhere or else deleted.

    I think the user base took too big of a hit by the time FS got the server and forum engine squared away, it's a shame because the rich content will likely never be repopulated to what it was.

    However, I will do what limited amount I can to help, and hopefully anyone else who cares will too. Rejoicing at exodus of active well meaning members is cointerintuitive at best.

    Tight Lines,
    Eric Fosbender

    Team Googanator

    2006 Bull Dolphin 22 with 250 Etec
  • mplspugmplspug Lake Mary, FloridaPosts: 6,443 Admiral
    I've noticed a lot of fishing websites going down hill...

    ...not long after I joined them.


    I wonder how much apps and social networking are affecting the decline, because all the websites seem to be slowing down.

    Captain Todd Approves

  • SchmidtySchmidty Posts: 6,814 Admiral
    ericf

    When a fishing site originally starts up....with guys who all fish and are good fishermen...like from 1995 to 2005...chat sites were all new and the new technology was exciting as it was never never done before,

    It was exciting and many people found many new friends and would meet up...go fishing together....have annual banquets where people from other states would join in.

    Those days are over...they are not coming back either....and no one can blame any one person for it.

    Many moderators take their "position"....and themselves way too seriously....many chastising and threatening to ban people who many of which are really just having some fun.

    If these threatened people don't have the balz to tell these pompous azzes to blow it out their wazoo's ...hell...I've been banned twice here and I even admitted that once I deserved it....the other time I envisioned some gay pizzle draped in spandex wearing toe dancing shoes giggling like the winner at a cross dresser festival contest as he banned me...

    I have been a moderator ...on a very active site at one time that has now been sold to one of those internet conglomerates who buy up sites and run them for profit instead of knowledge...

    I did it for years and never banned anyone.....I never mentioned about banning anyone...I never even deleted posts or entire threads as I would just tell people to "slow down and think"........and I moderated something akin to the "Political Section" here as well as "Offshore Fishing" and If I said that I was going to be fishing off a bridge on a Monday night and a rain storm rolled in...then only 50 might show up...we were that tight of a group....

    That's all gone now...the same as this place has taken a dump....
    On Wednesday, 1/25/2017...Florida Sportsman "Big Kahunna"......"Triple Threat 33T" gave his "official word"...and greasy thumb print...by saying....."Here's your written rules Schmidty, No Politics in OT. You're welcome."

    ...and with that history was made...:)
  • Truth is the forum started dying when Fishing reports became a minor part of this place.

    And why did that happen, FACEBOOK!

    All the good fisherman post there!
  • toomertoomer Posts: 317 Deckhand
    Just a short list of all the modern advances I said I'd have no part of only to give in: automatic transmissions, pagers, cell phones, email, chat rooms, iPods and pads, smart phones, etc. Guess one day I will get a Facebook account and make it 100%.
  • TarponatorTarponator Under a BridgePosts: 10,281 AG
    Finfinder wrote: »
    I know the guy has fought for my fishing rights. Not sure what happened lately, but in reality its a loss for this site, without confrontation its not a real community.

    +1
  • Maverick1Maverick1 Posts: 274 Deckhand
    Make no mistake...he's watching!
    Same my name!!!!!
  • Soda PopinskiSoda Popinski GrovelandPosts: 8,542 Admiral
    toomer wrote: »
    Just a short list of all the modern advances I said I'd have no part of only to give in: automatic transmissions, pagers, cell phones, email, chat rooms, iPods and pads, smart phones, etc. Guess one day I will get a Facebook account and make it 100%.

    I want to know where all these facebook fishing reports are now! I don't see any. Still wouldn't stop me from coming on here though. How else am I going to know when Polar is finally a Mod?
    People use statistics the way a drunk uses a street light, for support rather than illumination.
  • MGTeacherMGTeacher South GaPosts: 1,607 Captain
  • pottydocpottydoc Posts: 2,187 Captain
    Gary was here at the beginning of FS. Way more than most on here can say. He, along with others, was responsible for making FS became what it did. None of you running your mouths about him can say that. The reason most of you had a problem with him, is he made you back up what you posted with actual sources, not just coping and pasting something from Bullsugar or some other very biased and slanted source. Like Art, I disagreed with Gary many times over the years, but we remained friends despite of it. Both of us understood that it's just a Internet forum, and posting stuff on it doesn't mean squat when it comes down to it. No doubt Gary could be a **** when he wanted, but most of us here have that gift, right along with him. As for the demise of what FS was, Very few of the people I see posting about it add anything positive to this Forum. If it's so bad, leave. Maybe someone will start a thread about you after you been gone a while like this one. But I doubt it.
  • mplspugmplspug Lake Mary, FloridaPosts: 6,443 Admiral
    Gary would be very disappointed you did not break up your reply into proper paragraphs.

    Captain Todd Approves

  • pottydocpottydoc Posts: 2,187 Captain
    No, he wouldn't give a dang, because he knows pointing it out wouldn't get an answer from me, becAuse I don't give a rip. Unlike a bunch of the rest of you.
  • dragon baitdragon bait Posts: 5,668 Admiral
    Truth is the forum started dying when Fishing reports became a minor part of this place.

    And why did that happen, DRobins!

    FIFY
  • FinfinderFinfinder Posts: 9,550 Admiral
    Truth is the forum started dying when Fishing reports became a minor part of this place.

    And why did that happen, FACEBOOK!

    All the good fisherman post there!

    True, the forum was much better when the regions were stronger and the local businesses participated.
  • cprcpr Posts: 9,292 Admiral
    Finfinder wrote: »
    I know the guy has fought for my fishing rights. Not sure what happened lately, but in reality its a loss for this site, without confrontation its not a real community.

    X2
    "The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposed ideas in the mind at the same time, and still retain the ability to function." F. Scott Fitzgerald

    "Prediction is very difficult, especially if it's about the future." Niels Bohr
  • surfmansurfman WC FLPosts: 4,232 Captain
    pottydoc wrote: »
    Gary was here at the beginning of FS. Way more than most on here can say. He, along with others, was responsible for making FS became what it did. None of you running your mouths about him can say that. The reason most of you had a problem with him, is he made you back up what you posted with actual sources, not just coping and pasting something from Bullsugar or some other very biased and slanted source. Like Art, I disagreed with Gary many times over the years, but we remained friends despite of it. Both of us understood that it's just a Internet forum, and posting stuff on it doesn't mean squat when it comes down to it. No doubt Gary could be a **** when he wanted, but most of us here have that gift, right along with him. As for the demise of what FS was, Very few of the people I see posting about it add anything positive to this Forum. If it's so bad, leave. Maybe someone will start a thread about you after you been gone a while like this one. But I doubt it.

    :Agree
    Tight Lines, Steve
    My posts are my opinion only.
  • Gary has more knowledge about Everglades Restoration than anyone here. But...everyone beat him up on his opinions!
  • toomertoomer Posts: 317 Deckhand
    The internet gives all of us equal rights to be stupid.
  • CageyCagey Posts: 611 Officer
    About dam time! The guy was insufferable. The forum is much improved already!

    Good riddance!
  • pottydocpottydoc Posts: 2,187 Captain
    Cagey wrote: »
    About dam time! The guy was insufferable. The forum is much improved already!

    Good riddance!
    Read post 47 and 54. They were written for folks like you.
  • CageyCagey Posts: 611 Officer
    About dam time! The guy was insufferable. The forum is much improved already!

    Good riddance!
  • FinfinderFinfinder Posts: 9,550 Admiral
    Cagey wrote: »
    About dam time! The guy was insufferable. The forum is much improved already!

    Good riddance!

    yea 1 post in 30 days since your declaration:rotflmao
  • Soda PopinskiSoda Popinski GrovelandPosts: 8,542 Admiral
    I'm on another board for another topic and if you disagree with everyone over there you're downvoted and harassed constantly. It's one group of people with the same opinions constantly patting each other on the back for believing the same thing.

    That is insufferable. I didn't always agree with him, but it's better to have differing opinions because if you surround yourself with people that are all like minded, you only see things from one point of view.
    People use statistics the way a drunk uses a street light, for support rather than illumination.
  • CageyCagey Posts: 611 Officer
    It wasn't any disagreement. It was his personal harassments that were the problem with him. He would send me PM's with more of his forceful opinions he wanted to shove down my throat, and some PM's saying things like "Do you like to play games?" "Do you want to play games?" I just never replied to his stupid PM's and tried to block him but since he was a forum god a regular member like me could not block him.

    I knew his days as a moderator were numbered since so many complained about him. I got PM's about that too from other members telling me they had my back and they would go to higher ups about him.

    Gary was the reason a number of people either left or just stopped posting all together. So yeah, count me as one who is glad he picked up his toys and ran away. I do not miss him or his way of doing things around here.

    If some like him that's fine. And if some don't that is fine too.
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