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  • DarcyDarcy Posts: 1,711 Captain
    Mister-Jr wrote: »
    Happy New Year, Darcy!
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  • DarcyDarcy Posts: 1,711 Captain
    Mango Man wrote: »
    What happened to Gary?

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  • DarcyDarcy Posts: 1,711 Captain
    kmagnuss wrote: »
    The difference between a pit biting someone and a lab/daschund, etc... is when a pit bites you he wants to eat your face off along with all of your dead relatives...
    Although I have personally seen the aftermath of a golden retriever biting half a 7 year olds face off. Now The dog was old and going blind, but seeing a child with their eye hanging out of their socket is something I will never forget.
    My kids don't trust any dogs.
    Hell, they don't trust most humans.
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  • Keep on SpoolinKeep on Spoolin Posts: 1,359 Officer
    Menzies wrote: »
    Bet people think more than twice about breaking and entering a home with a Pit.

  • Tarpon MonoxideTarpon Monoxide Posts: 649 Officer
    The breed is one of the most common therapy dogs....

    Did you know that a number of the Michael Vick Dogs, went on the be therapy dogs? A few of them specifically working with children....

    This is one of the Micheal Vick Dogs...

    Jonny Justice

    Pit Bulls are disasters just waiting to happen. And sooner or later the kid will get his face bitten off.

    Yes, the breed is a therapy dog, when Pit Bulls attack you will need extensive medical therapy, that is if you live through the attack.

    Here are photos of Pit Bull attacks that were not exactly working for kids, but tearing them up.

    U.S. fatal pit bull attacks have surpassed 285 since 1998; the last year the CDC studied fatal dog attack data by breed. In the last 8-year period of the CDC study (1991 to 1998), pit bulls averaged nearly 3 deaths per year. From 2008 to 2015, the most recent 8-year period, pit bulls averaged 22 deaths per year, a 633% increase.

    Here is just one of thousands of photos of a so called therapy Pit Bull that "worked" with a kid.

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  • PotholePothole Posts: 1,373 Officer
    Mango Man wrote: »
    What happened to Gary?

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    Who cares?
  • SchmidtySchmidty Posts: 6,806 Admiral
    That poor little girl...

    So what you do if your neighbors dog did that to your kid?
  • Gary SGary S Posts: 3,347 Captain
    Schmidty wrote: »
    That poor little girl...

    So what you do if your neighbors dog did that to your kid?

    They would have to get another dog.
  • 2amigo2amigo Posts: 8,969 Admiral
    They also are known to become possessed. Here is mine pre-exorcism.
  • Bimini TwistedBimini Twisted Posts: 11,443 AG
    I have only owned female Golden Retrievers, it works for me. Others are free to own whatever breed they like, just keep the Pits away from me, my family, and my dog. Just because someone is willing to gamble, does not give them the right to impose that risk on the rest of us.
  • Flats2blueFlats2blue Posts: 280 Deckhand
    This one is funny and sad at the same time. Just a nice family pet.....
  • SchmidtySchmidty Posts: 6,806 Admiral
    I have only owned female Golden Retrievers, it works for me. Others are free to own whatever breed they like, just keep the Pits away from me, my family, and my dog. Just because someone is willing to gamble, does not give them the right to impose that risk on the rest of us.

    I like what you does make sense...
  • floridanativefloridanative Posts: 1,474 Officer
    22 deaths per year on the high end in a country of 330+++ million people. Ya'll must be a nervous wreck living in the lightning capital of the world.
  • cadmancadman Posts: 43,700 AG
    4) People rely on news reports... which rely on "witness" accounts to identify breeds involved.... a LOT of folks... could not identify a Pit if their life depended on it... .

    I was out walking my black Lab off leash one day in my neighborhood. The lab would never go more than 20 feet from me off leash and always come straight to me when called. My Golden was on leash since he thought running the neighborhood and have me chase him was a game.

    I saw a police car turn into the neighborhood and a police officer drives up and gets out. He pets the dogs and ask if I had seen a pitbull running loose. I said no, just me and my dogs out walking.

    My guess was, one of the ladies saw my Lab running around and mistook him for a pitbull. I thought it was funny

    I am waiting on them to start importing Russian Ovcharkas, those beasts will be dangerous in the hands of a bad owner.

    I do agree, it is the owner and how they raise the dog. There are a couple of breeds I like a lot, but know I do not have the time it would take to work with the dog to properly socialize him. I am even waiting on getting my next dog right now due to working too much and I do not think I could invest the time in a dog currently. When I retire in a few years, likely get a German Shepard or another lab. Will look at rescue dogs and see what picks me.

    Former Mini Mart Magnate

    I am just here for my amusement. 

  • SchmidtySchmidty Posts: 6,806 Admiral
    ......"...just pet him and he'll be your friend".........".....that's just his way of saying hello"............."let him smell your hand and everything will be alright"......"he growls cause he doesn't know you"....etc......

    And that's just some of the absolutely idiotic saying that come out of dog owners mouths when "they".....the dog...acts like he wants to tear a chunk out of you.

    The next door neighbor comes over to drink a beer and brings his growling dog over with him...and then comes the tell him to get his dog off your property and he doesn't talk to you for three years until that dog dies....then he comes over with a big friendly dog that takes a dump in three places and pizzes about 12 times and the owner calls one "fertilizer" and the impending brown spots ..."marking his territory"....which is my territory that I pay a lawn man great amounts of money to make look tremendous.

    ....and once again...he get's a case of the **** when I protest the damage his dog is doing...mumbles something stupid as he swills down the last of his free beer and takes his dog and leaves......and to make sure that I never see this moron ever again I have my landscape artist create a separate bill for payment to repair the dog damage which I send to said freeloading neighbor with a note to pay within 30 days.....

    I have never seen the money or "Thirsty" ever again....good riddance....

    "IF" I go to someone's house and they have a less than hospitable dog....I simply they obviously know what their dog does and are "OK" with that vicious lump of worthless meat and teeth harassing people.

    I will also not go back...ever...and should they invite me I will tell them why I won't go on their property...which always seems to bring out the excuses and sometimes accusations as I mist have dome something to get their dog to charge and growl....even though the best in question did the same thing to many people.

    I carry a concealed weapon as many do here....I "DO NOT" pull that pistol out and yell and scream at people in a threatening why should a dog not be expected to act in the same manner?

    Obviously if I did....either someone would shoot me....and rightfully so......or the police should kick my **** and take me in front of a Judge so he could finish the job why doesn't a visibly hostile dog and it's owner get the same treatment?

    And I do mean from the first time it does so....

    People who have a problem with this...society should have a problem with them....
  • mindyabinessmindyabiness Posts: 8,020 Admiral
    Cat lover....
    Arguing with idiots is like playing chess with a pigeon... No matter how good you are, the bird is going to crap on the board and strut around like it won anyway.
  • SchmidtySchmidty Posts: 6,806 Admiral
    ...instant grit maker...
  • mplspugmplspug Posts: 16,014 AG
    Pitbulls are to dog attack reports as Jello is to gelatin.

    Most people think Staffordshire Terrier's are cute and gentle, but pit bulls are mean. :huh
    Just dropping grenades in OT
  • HeatwaveHeatwave Posts: 1,997 Captain
    AC Man wrote: »
    My best friend is watching his sons pit bull while moving. I admit I am not a fan of aggressive dog breeds. Anyhoo, I go to his house. Dog is wagging his tail and seems happy to see me. I can't say the same and ignore him. Couple minutes later he can't take his eyes off me and starts growling. I told my buddy get that effing out of here I told you so. He said it was because I ignored the dog and it thought I was up to something. ****? I don't want to cater to a dog's thought process. None of my dogs acted like that. So is it true they smell your fear and attack?

    Your whole post tell the story of the breed, or lack there of training in my opinion. I still say, you get one and train it well, it will be fine. If you get one and dont train it at all, chances are 80% it could do anything. In the middle, a bought Pitt by someone who thinks it is funny to sickum, or pull on ropes, hang from trees and never socializes the dog, even tho they treat it good. That dog could possible kill another dog in 10 seconds... 98% of dogs would never do that. A pitt would...
    Doesn't mean I dislike them or think they are all killers, but i do believe 95% of them have killer in them and it has to be trained out. And Bandit, no, not the show dogs, i am talking about the ones that are bred and passed off as Kerr / Pitt, Pitt, and sell for 300 bucks all day long on the web...
  • HeatwaveHeatwave Posts: 1,997 Captain
    I am familiar with those as well.... I did rescue for years....

    All dogs have a killer inside them.... They are all pack driven, territorial predators.....

    I am a dog lover too, love showing my Dobes, etc... I have a hard time believing that you can't see the difference... It is almost as if you compare them equal to a poodle, fox hound, Shiztu, Marmaduke... They are just way more killer... I also have a hard time with your #4, we are not talking about Staffordshire, or even AKC Pitts, just like the Doberman that has been bred to be BIG, or ROtty, same thing, people are out there breeding Pitts to Pitt or protect. They are far and away seen, not just interpreted, but any educated person can tell, what we know as a Pitt, I dont care if it is 30 lbs, or 60 lbs... Many of these dogs only need 50% in them to be OVERLY aggressive and not RIPPERS, but killers... It isn't a news reporter that calls all dogs pitts, but the look of that dog, anything close to it, or inbred to it, it gets that call and rightfully so. Just another Opinion. I do understand yours...

    If I were to look at 10 dogs and one looked anything like a pitt, and they all growled at me, same time, I would only worry about that one animal. That is the experiences I have had with them, and them only.

    I remember the one show lady telling me, I know exactly what you are talking about, but to protect the OTHER dogs, we need to take a hard stance for the pitt, no matter how hard some are destroying the breed.
  • SchmidtySchmidty Posts: 6,806 Admiral
    2015 dog bite fatalities ::

    Statistical information gathered by is verifiable1 through collected news reports. Our Fatality Citations section documents each source used in our dog bite-related fatality research.

    2015 dog bite fatality statistics
    34 U.S. dog bite-related fatalities occurred in 2015. Despite being regulated in Military Housing areas and over 700 U.S. cities, pit bulls contributed to 82% (28) of these deaths. Pit bulls make up about 6.6% of the total U.S. dog population.2
    Together, pit bulls (28) and rottweilers (3), the second most lethal dog breed, accounted for 91% of the total recorded deaths in 2015. This same combination also accounted for 76% of all fatal attacks during the 11-year period of 2005 to 2015.
    The breakdown between these two breeds is substantial over this 11-year period. From 2005 to 2015, pit bulls killed 232 Americans, about one citizen every 17 days, versus rottweilers, which killed 41, about one citizen every 98 days.
    In the year of 2015, the combination of pit bulls (28), their close cousins, American bulldogs (2), and rottweilers (3) contributed to 97% (33) of all dog bite-related fatalities. Both American bulldog fatalities occurred in Miami-Dade County, Florida.
    Annual data from 2015 shows that 41% (14) of the fatality victims were children ages 9-years and younger, and 59% (20) were adults, ages 22-years and older. Of the total adults killed by canines in 2015, 65% (13) were ages 60-years and older.
    Annual data shows that when combining all age groups, male victims (20) were greater in number than female victims (14). Amongst children ages 9-years and younger, males were excessively victims 79% (11), versus females 21% (3).
    In 2015, nearly one third, 32% (11), of all dog bite fatality victims were either visiting or living temporarily with the dog's owner when the fatal attack occurred. Children ages 9-years and younger accounted for 82% (9) of these deaths.
    50% (17) of all fatalities in 2015 involved more than one dog; 15% (5) involved a pack attack of four or more dogs; 21% (7) involved breeding on the dog owner's property either actively or in the recent past and 6% (2) involved tethered dogs.
    In 2015, 9% (3) of all fatal attacks were inflicted by dogs rehomed by shelters or rescues. County operated shelters in Buncombe County, North Carolina and Madison County, Tennessee each adopted out a dog that fatally attacked a person.
    Dog ownership information for 2015 shows that non-family dogs inflicted the majority of dog bite fatalities, 59% (20), up 12% from the 10-year average of 47%. Over two-thirds of all deaths, 71% (24), occurred on the dog owner's property.
    In 2015, only 9% (3) of attacks causing death resulted in meaningful criminal charges; the lowest level in the last 11-years.3 2015 also marked the first time a medical examiner ruled "suicide" as manner of death in a fatal dog attack.
    Texas once again led all states in lethal dog attacks in 2015 with 5 deaths. Florida and Oklahoma each followed incurring 3 deaths. Arkansas, California, Michigan, New York, North Carolina and West Virginia each followed with 2 deaths.

    The solution is simple...

    Hang the dog.....and next to him......the dogs owner....
  • Gary SGary S Posts: 3,347 Captain
    Had a neighbor who picked up a American bull dog off the street some low life SOB dumped. If my neighbor wasn't home and you tried to go over he would growl and act menacing. But if he was there you couldn't get him to stop slobbering on you. I think he was the making of a great dog.
  • GogetterGogetter Posts: 7 Greenhorn
    Well said.
    look around and tell me what you see.
  • SchmidtySchmidty Posts: 6,806 Admiral
    The evil beast that we had inherited because our sweet golden was **** by some hound from hell weighed 147 pounds and was never shown anything other than love his entire life...and still whatever satanic seed that made him reared it's ugly violent head every time it could.

    I do not believe in hitting dumb beasts....and he was no exception....but I am the only one he would listen to when he got spun up.

    He really loved the bride, but if she took him for a walk and another dog came around ...he would drag her on the ground until she was hamburger. I finally bought a metal collar with tines that would dig in and eventually choke him out should he decide to take off. He still drug the bride on the ground until I bought a horse lunge line and told her to wrap it around a tree if he does he "stuff".

    She did and that spawn of the devil choked himself till he passed out...she called the house frantically and asked me how to make him wake up....I told her to kick start him and he woke up....just to choke himself out again....which made her call me to come get him.

    When I woke him up....he was "Daddy's Li'l Angel" up all thoughts of murdering an old springer spaniel that was a truly sweet dog...... and I walked him home.

    Eventually he got real sick and I put him down......and I can honestly say that I was glad the day he died. He just couldn't be trusted.
  • Icecat21Icecat21 Posts: 642 Officer
    They are bred to fight and be aggressive. That is why they exist. Its like the old saying: "You can't make a hooker a housewife." They will lick and slobber all over the kids until the day they snap and bite off the neighbor kid's cheek for no reason. Then the owner is on TV in a dirty white tank top standing next to his fat wife saying: "Rage/Escobar/Lucifer was a good boy, I don't know what happened...he was a big lapdog"

    All of the obvious child mauling aside.....

    Go to the richest part of your town...notice the dogs they own.
    Go to the dirty, crime filled part of town...notice the dogs they own.
    Which one is closer to your pet?

    I buy homes for use as rental properties. If I notice a Pit on the block of a house I am interested in buying, I move on. I have no interest in dealing with someone would like to live there. Either as a neighbor of my tenant or as a tenant.
  • MRichardsonMRichardson Posts: 10,466 AG
    What a bunch of ****ing dog-lover horsehit.

    The OP had no obligation to cater to that ****** dog's feelings.
    Dog's are far below all humans on the dominance scale.
    **** that ****** ****.
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  • GrizGriz Posts: 9,951 Admin
    I still maintain that certain breeds have innate qualities that have been bred into them over many generations. Labs and Goldens and other retriever breed tend to take to water more naturally than some others.

    My Cattle Dog Rowdy was taken sheep herding at 4 months old. Had never laid eyes on a sheep. Lucky? Instinctive-you bet.
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  • ANUMBER1ANUMBER1 Posts: 13,178 AG
    This is very true.... The instinct and qualities bred into pit bulls is the desire to fight other dogs....
    goes for humans too, yankees tend to tell everyone within earshot ho great it was up Nawth, they can't help it, I got other examples.
    I am glad to only be a bird hunter with bird dogs...being a shooter or dog handler or whatever other niche exists to separate appears to generate far too much about which to worry.
  • AC ManAC Man Posts: 7,317 Admiral
    I didn't mean for this to go on like this but I have two points JB said dogs smell fear / adrenalin. I agree. How bout this? We had a golden retriever female that was sweet as pie for 10 years. We had a neighbor that walked up to our screened pool porch at night when we were in the pool. My neighbor had a birth defect. He acted and talked a little odd. Was about 5 ft tall. Large forehead and not right. My gental dog went insane. Froze up making noise I never heard before. We told him to leave. So, you think the dog could tell something was odd with the neighbor? He was not in the least afraid which odd to me. Very strange.
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