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When did hand brake change to
Parking brake, foot brake and now in some cars electronic and sets itself? What do you do f you lose your brakes and have not a lever or pedal? I've always liked a proper hand set emergency brake and detested the foot set. The electronic is absurd.
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I agree, it is now past human and all about the $$$$$$$$$$$$ It fails, call and get tow, then shop (only their shop).... Just like self driving, I can see assist on highway, or even a sleep monitor, safety setup... Sad how they are taking what makes better humans away from all of us. I wont let my kid get a NAV. system.. I want her to learn her way around, not count on a nav to tell her everything...
Ok I don't know anything about an electronic brake, and maybe you're right, maybe it's a bad idea, "but" your comment sounds like, I assume, hundreds off comments in the past to new technology.
Who needs automatic transmission, fuel injectors, power windows, power steering, power brakes, anti lock brakes, (and now) cameras, auto braking, lane change warnings, etc., etc..
I assume lots of time and money went into R&D on this issue ad was deamed to be a good idea.
In my mind parking brakes are for manual transmission safety. Unless you are my youngest son who broke out the wife's John Cooper Works Mini Cooper and used it as a hand brake to pivot corners and flat spot $1500 worth of tires. Funny now, not at the time.
Hand brakes can be fun
that's the impetus for them
Crash and burn, baby, crash and burn...
At what point does MAKING more money become Absurd ? Lots of things have had R&D spent on it and failed, like the Electric Car. That thing was awesome, but GM bought out the patent on the Battery, then sold it to big oil who had the cars crushed and buried in the desert. The things listed in your "who needs" were all good ideas and very helpful. At one point or another, it ends (better product) and common sense has to take hold. The fact that it was deemed a good idea has to do with MONEY only, nothing else was considered, and wont be until someone dies, by then the engineers and people in charge will be gone and not responsible for the outcome.
Just look at VW issue and the setup with milage. You can bet those that designed the program were forced to or be fired, they had a choice and only now does that choice matter. Had they raised a flag when it was happening they would have been labeled a snitch or a nut job. You just cant win at the bottom of the ladder these days.
If it was about what we might want or need..........vehicles would have self tinting windows as standard equipment by now.:wink
She was driving the other day and noticed an amber light came on the dash while she was stopped at the light. The light appeared to be traction control. I looked into it and it is roll control. if you depress the brake again after your are stopped it will turn on and hold the card for 2 seconds to prevent you from rolling on a hill.
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When you had drum brakes where the pad swiveled, you could use a cable linked to an emergency brake to stop the car. The name hand break came out later on when the foot pedal emergency brake moved to a center mounted hand brake in cars with bucket seats.
When cars moved to all disk brakes for safety reasons, it is not possible to use a manual cable to pull the hand brake. The parking brake is now part of the hydraulic system. If the hydraulics fail, the parking brake ain't going to do any good.
BTW, have you ever used the old cable emergency brake to stop you if your brakes failed? I did once, it doesn't work that well since the cable is only activating the rear wheel brakes. Takes about twice as long to stop.
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Not correct. I have a cable on both my Jeep and Mini Cooper. One controls a dedicated parking brake caliper and on the rear rotor and the other there is internal drum brakes in the rear rotor.
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Most new cars are four wheel disk. What year are your vehicles and which one still uses drum brakes?
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I can check, but I believe you press the button the active the E-brake. I thought I read it's still a mechanical braking system only uses a solenoid to activate it. There a level in the trunk to release it if it malfunctions.
They're both four wheel disc. The Jeep has an interior shoe on the rear the rotor and the Mini has a dedicated caliper for the emergency brake.
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That may be.
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Even with 4 wheel disk, most, not all, still have a cable e-brake. Look it up. I'm sure your google finger is working.
I will check my truck. I made a misassumption. I want to see how a cable works on disk brakes.
Former Mini Mart Magnate
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Many (or most) have both. Normal brakes are disk, but the parking brake is drum. Both work on the same rotor, the drum brake just uses the ID.
I might just take them to the shop this time. I don't feel like going thru that again. It's hell getting old.
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With most folks glued to their cell phones, I'm looking forward to self driving cars, less people to worry about in S. Fla.
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