Flies that flutter?

red owl

Are there any flies that flutter? What I use I can strip in so a stationary fly darts in little 6" movements. It would be like holding an index finger horizontal and jerking your arm sideways in quick 6" movements- darting.
But what about fluttering? Same finger but now wiggling around and your arm slowly and continually moving sideways. Are there any flies that do that? :huh

saltybum

Marabou makes flies undulate when at rest. As far as fluttering...?

idlerick

Herter's (OK, I'm dating myself) used to offer what they called Wiggling Discs. They were thin, aluminum concave discs with an extension post that you tied in to the fly body. The disc extended down in front of the fly's throat like a lip and caused it to wiggle like a Rapala. They came in 3 sizes, as I recall. (I'll bet I still have a few hundred around somewhere.)
Problem was Herter's was a lot like Chrysler - great innovation, lousy implementation. They made them out of T-0 aluminum, which fatigued and broke off about the second time you adjusted them. But I'd bet someone out there still makes something like them, probably in a clear plastic. You might try some of the more well-stocked on-line fly tying dealers and see what they have. Or experiment around and see what you can come up with.

saltydancindave

A newer version is marketed as FlyLipps. There also use to be Fludders. Spoon flys flutter with a cast, drop, raise, drop retrieve.

idlerick

That's it exactly, Dave. Very close to the old Herter design, but clear and durable (I suspect).

I may try them myself in salt or for stream browns out here. Any idea how well they work?

saltydancindave

idlerick wrote: »

That's it exactly, Dave. Very close to the old Herter design, but clear and durable (I suspect).

I may try them myself in salt or for stream browns out here. Any idea how well they work?

Have to look at an old Herter's book in the library shelves research to see if there are any advertised as Fly Lipps are more of a durable translucent plastic crank bait lip. Seem fine for different fly recipes as there's a local fly fisher which has made a number of YouTube videos & posted on Fly Lipps webpage for those he's tyed up including a split body as has caught a number of different fish. Have had some success, which would probably be a better catch percentage if there was more fishing time.

Hambweld

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HookI

" Spoon Flies " wobble , I would really like to try / purchase a few before making them myself in fear of them not swimming correctly

Any suggestions ? What have you used in the past ?

sbt59

Pulse disc by Brinefly sounds more like the Herter's thing - it's a concave clear plastic disc that gets tied infront of the fly.

mnigro

Look at a zoo cougar pattern. Kelly Galloup has a video on tying this pattern. It may give you some ideas.

Bimini15

Look up Gunnar Brammer in YouTube and watch episodes 3 and 4, both parts, of his Tie like a Pro series.
He mentions some particular flies ( including Galloup’s) but mostly talks principles of fly design as they relate to action.
Kind of long winded, but very informative.

Also look up Niklaus Bauer and his pike flies. On YouTube as well.