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Let's review - the 1st sentence of the 1st post of this thread:
If you’re tired of complaints about FWC reducing the redfish daily bag limit in Florida’s Northwest Red Drum Management Zone then you may well stop reading here.
Turned off the "ignore" function? :rotflmao :grin
Read more: http://forums.floridasportsman.com/showthread.php?235394-Running-of-the-bulls-2016#ixzz4QNXSv4va
“That morning at Suwannee,… decided to cast for a while from the Salt Creek shore….anglers hauled in and released more than thirty reds up to 32 inches long.”
“…boated to key spots near Cedar Key…limits of redfish quickly came aboard…The next day,…They picked up 5 slot redfish…”
http://www.garystacklebox.com/blog/fast-fishing-in-the-gulf-shallows/
"I caught around 12 underslot fish, maybe 8 slot 19"-22" and had a couple overslot reds break off and one spit the hook at the boat."
Read more: http://forums.floridasportsman.com/showthread.php?235457-CK-11-18-Reds-Better-Every-Week#ixzz4QSIu4Vri
Thursday, November 17, 2016
http://myfwc.com/news/news-releases/2016/november/17/triggerfish/
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That's just hysterical FWC Commissioner Chuck Roberts :rotflmao
FWC went to great lengths to conduct a Red Drum Stakeholders' Survey - only to totally ignore responding stakeholders' input.
Yeah, boy howdy. Those lines of communications are wide open, :banghead
The most recent meeting of FWC Commissioners was 11/16-11/17/2016 in St. Petersburg, FL.
As of now the Minutes of the FWC Commissioners' most recent previous meeting 9/8-9/92016 in St. Augustine, FL (at which the FWC Commissioners voted to finalize the daily bag limit reduction of redfish in the NW Red Drum Management Zone from 2 to 1) are not posted on the FWC website for public access.
One of the earliest orders of business at an appropriately-managed government meeting is to review, amend then approve Minutes from the previous meeting.
How come FWC can issue news releases during its' meeting in progress, i.e., pertaining to hogfish and triggerfish (St. Petersburg, FL meeting 11/2016) but delays posting approved Minutes from its most previous meeting?
What of Florida's Sunshine Law? "Transparency" of government?
If the State of Florida is going to continue to allow Governor-appointed individuals (not necessarily with described criteria of proven backgrounds in fresh/salt water fisheries or hunting/wildlife management to make regulatory decisions) then the least the State of Florida should do for its' fishing/hunting stakeholders, as well as all its' general state-wide residents, is to ensure up-to-date "transparency".
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"...Then it started one after another Double Hook-ups and Triple Hook-ups for about 2-3 hours! We C&R about 70-80 Reds between 19-24"!
I ended my afternoon with a final cast that yielded another 23-24" Red!..."
Read more: http://forums.floridasportsman.com/showthread.php?235724-Yankeetown-11-22#ixzz4QyswvTQX
Posted on November 25, 2016
"...ran out of Steinhatchee at low tide...they found that the area was alive with more than trout...they hauled in 10 redfish..."
http://www.garystacklebox.com/blog/gulf-action-best/
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Red Drum
Ms. Melissa Recks with the Division of Marine Fisheries presented a final rule implementing a one-fish bag limit for red drum throughout the red drum northwest management zone for approval by the Commission.
Commissioner Priddy asked for clarification on when it would be appropriate to revisit increasing the bag limit back to two fish per person statewide.
Ms. Recks responded that we can likely expect another stock assessment within four years following this rule change and that would be a good opportunity to reevaluate the bag limit.
Commissioner Priddy commented that she did not believe that people’s personal philosophy about whether or not it is appropriate to harvest more than one fish of a particular species per day should dictate other harvesters’ ability to keep additional fish if the population is healthy. She supported raising the bag limit up to two in the future if the fishery is healthy enough to support it.
Chairman Yablonski noted that this change is to manage the species in an abundance of caution and if the updated data reflect a healthy fishery, then he is in support of increasing the bag limit back to two fish.
from Commission Meeting September 8 – 9, 2016 St. Augustine, FL Minutes
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In deciding to reduce the daily bag limit, FWC provided no data which supported evidence of a decline of the health of the fishery throughout the NW Red Drum Management Zone. The results of FWC's Red Drum Stakeholder Survey gave little to no indication of a decline of the health of the fishery. Recent anecdotal and testimonial fishing reports and postings on various fishing forms, as cited throughout this thread, in conjunction with results of FWC's Red Drum Stakeholder Survey support the fishery as currently being healthy.
FWC says, "an abundance of caution". Huh? An "abundance of caution" should prompt FWC to conduct a Red Drum stock assessment, i.e., gather scientific data, sooner than sometime "in the next 4 years".
I believe the fishery IS healthy - there is no scientific data or much anecdotal or testimonial information that suggests otherwise.
As one FWC Commissioner said, "did not believe that people’s personal philosophy about whether or not it is appropriate to harvest more than one fish of a particular species per day should dictate other harvesters’ ability to keep additional fish...": with that statement I can agree.
At one point you posted that you would no longer comment on this subject (personally I don't care if you do or don't). Then at other points you posted, in various threads, about using the "ignore" function for Luv2Yak.
Obviously, you can't resist nor can you "ignore". No self-control? No self-discipline?
I'm thinking you're obsessed. I'm thinking you're "stalking" Luv2Yak.
Important points:
1.) You've offered NOTHING of substance to debate or refute FWC's asinine decision to reduce the daily bag limit of reds in the entirety of the NW Red Drum Management Zone.
2.) Compare this thread's number of views (1600+) to other threads, in the "Big Bend" segment - or even elsewhere - on Florida Sportsman's forums. Agree or disagree, folks are looking at this subject, far moreso than many others. (BTW I can't find ANY threads, on this forum or elsewhere, where ANY of your threads [what, no pix, ANY pix, of ANYTHING?) have stimulated such a high level of observation (views).
I think you're a "blowhard", all smoke no fire. Got something to contribute? Then contribute. Otherwise, you're doing nothing more than demonstrating that you're a jerky "stalker".
Do you have a petition , do you have the connections of whom to send one to ? Are you going to the meetings to voice your concern ?
Are you doing anything, elsewhere , that will get what you want ?
We here may or may not like the current regulation but we abide by it. What would you have us do ? Should we just keep reading what you post and then what ? Agree , disagree , give up , what ? Please tell us. :Popcorn
Getting a bit confusing as to your intentions..
I may move this there ..
Deaf ears there. Check out the snook thread from where the FWC rep was preaching "science" rules". The FWC biologists have as much say in the matter as we (man) does about climate change. They are muzzled and tied up front to the saloon post like good horses. That fishery was off the chain Friday. This is one of many reasons there are no real fishing reports anymore. Vigilante justice is being served, people are pissed off and daily bag limits are now "trip limits". It's time to drain the swamp in Tallahassee.
Why? Why not leave it as is? Is it a problem? Doing any harm as is? Don't think so. Gee, if some don't like it or aren't interested or whatever then just don't read it.
THIS is the Big Bend section of Florida Sportsman forums. THIS is the Big Bend's "General Fishing & Outdoors" section. I fish in the Big Bend. FWC's NW Red Drum Management Zone includes the Big Bend. The Big Bend section of Florida Sportsman doesn't have a "Conservation Front" section.
Red Drum in the Big Bend continue to be plentiful and robust. FWC made a bone-headed decision, with no scientific rationale, to reduce the daily bag limit of redfish in the Big Bend.
This is a matter which affects anglers in the Big Bend. Your consideration of moving it to "Conservation Front"...?
Why did you not respond to my previous post and only to the one above ?
Read more: http://forums.floridasportsman.com/showthread.php?235805-Friday-25th-trout-and-reds#ixzz4RGFMKsu9
Because you (like some others) mocked "cut and paste".
I don't mock how/what you post, how you choose to express yourself, how you do/don't support your opinions.
Consider 1,800+ views of this thread.
As far as I'm concerned, you (and all others) are welcomed to freely express themselves. I am freely expressing myself. Got a problem with that?
Read more: http://forums.floridasportsman.com/showthread.php?235813-Back-country-fishing-11-26-16#ixzz4RGIcb3fM
No .
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