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HDR....love it, hate it...in between...

most posters here know that i'm not a big fan of HDR except mild application to make an image "pop"...
I've really been vocal about it as y'all know...

however....I saw these two scenes and I knew what had to do...the scenes were just too amusing...
get out the tripod and auto bracket the images from -2, -1, 0, +1, +2....
then wash it through Ps....
never say never...as daddy used to say (actually he still does)...

I call this one "Redneck Retreat"...

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this one is "Bubba's Construction"....

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don't look for anymore...I think i'm over it....

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  • Controlled_ChoasControlled_Choas Posts: 211 Officer
    :applause:applause:applause
    I like them. Came out good. And you actually shot the correct sequencs (over/proper/under) instead of just running it thru a HDR corrector?
  • GlennGlenn GeorgiaPosts: 1,737 Captain
    HDR seems to fit the first one for me, but not sure about the second photo. HDR has its place and can be useful at times, but most people take it to far and at the wrong time.
  • ChuckcChuckc Posts: 4,398 Captain
    Is that a mannequin on top of the Redneck retreat? If so that is UBER classy. There's a rental singlewide on the way to my house with curtains spray painted inside the windows. Now that's classy right there.

    I occasionally use HDR to get some extra pop out of a borderline shot. Sometimes I go too far which is pretty easy to do.
  • mississippi macmississippi mac Posts: 4,222 Captain
    :applause:applause:applause
    I like them. Came out good. And you actually shot the correct sequencs (over/proper/under) instead of just running it thru a HDR corrector?

    yup...I already have my AEB set to default 5 bracketed images...
    you get much better HDR doing it that way, with more possibilities for processing...

    Chuck, I was wandering around the old part of cedar key when I found the trailer...I had to shoot it so I went through the whole AEB sequence for more options during developing...

    Glenn...
    I over cooked the second one...I went crazy with the sliders on an already heavily saturated set of shots...
    I was aiming for a more humorous delivery...

    i'm over it now...I have posted HDR images before but I was just aiming for a little pop without cooking the image...
    I still do it from time to time, particularly with landscapes...if you didn't notice, then I got it right...

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  • SLSSLS Posts: 181 Deckhand
    HDR is a tool that lets you adjust the exposure to get detail in the shadows and lets you adjust the exposure to get details in the highlights.
    You also take exposures to fill in all the details in between.
    Those images are combined, via HDR software to render an image that isn't possible with a single image but looks perfectly natural to the eye because the human eye has a much greater Dynamic range than the camera.

    With that said HDR software can also be used to generate the images above.

    Plenty of people like them ,but Im not a fan
    Sorry
  • FlashFlash Posts: 11,193 AG
    Different, but still have not messed with them myself.
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  • mississippi macmississippi mac Posts: 4,222 Captain
    SLS wrote: »
    HDR is a tool that lets you adjust the exposure to get detail in the shadows and lets you adjust the exposure to get details in the highlights.
    You also take exposures to fill in all the details in between.
    Those images are combined, via HDR software to render an image that isn't possible with a single image but looks perfectly natural to the eye because the human eye has a much greater Dynamic range than the camera.

    With that said HDR software can also be used to generate the images above.

    Plenty of people like them ,but Im not a fan
    Sorry

    as I said, I use HDR for landscapes in particular....
    and as I said, if no one noticed, then I got it right...

    but once in a while a scene presents itself that is just begging to push the sliders up and render it into an amusing cartoon as it were....
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  • SLSSLS Posts: 181 Deckhand
    .............scene presents itself that is just begging to push the sliders up and render it into an amusing cartoon as it were....

    I hear you @mississippi, I'm that way with portraits.
  • mississippi macmississippi mac Posts: 4,222 Captain
    i used to do weddings and portraits...and i hated doing them, but it paid the bills...
    now, just maybe, for a good friend that needs either one done, i'll consider it...
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  • FlashFlash Posts: 11,193 AG
    Ahh, wedding, got me retired at a young age. Did around 24 to 28 a year while I lived in Orlando. Old school style now.
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  • SLSSLS Posts: 181 Deckhand
    i used to do weddings and portraits.....
    I never did photography for a living, strictly amateur.
    My portraits were candid portraits, people on the street.

    I love unusual shots of odd, usually old folks, and like to do them up dramatically.
    I'm an old, hopefully not to a odd guy.

    I've been screwing around for days trying to link to my other computer where my photos are, with no luck.
    Maybe I'll just load them onto a thumb drive and show you what I"m talking about.

    Steve
  • mississippi macmississippi mac Posts: 4,222 Captain
    Steve...
    i like to do candid street portraits, etc and usually do them in B&W...it adds more drama...

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  • SLSSLS Posts: 181 Deckhand
    I finally figured out my network issue.
    These are 2 of my favorite canded portrates.
    One image is B&W the other color but not HDR.
  • JWTJWT Posts: 726 Officer
    cool portraits!
  • SLSSLS Posts: 181 Deckhand
    JWT wrote: »
    cool portraits!

    Thank You
  • ChuckcChuckc Posts: 4,398 Captain
    JWT wrote: »
    cool portraits!

    Very cool.
  • mplspugmplspug Palmetto FloridaPosts: 12,276 AG
    Very cool portraits.

    I like HDR once in a while for landscapes, but in general I like clean pictures. Arty over processed photos are for ad campaigns and marketing material.

    I use the HDR setting on my phone, but the HDR on my phone doesn't do anything but make the pictures look richer.

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  • SLSSLS Posts: 181 Deckhand
    Chuckc wrote: »
    Very cool.

    Thanks Chuck.
    You wouldn't be the same ChuckC on DSLReports would you?
  • SLSSLS Posts: 181 Deckhand
    mplspug wrote: »
    Very cool portraits.

    I like HDR once in a while for landscapes, but in general I like clean pictures. Arty over processed photos are for ad campaigns and marketing material.

    I use the HDR setting on my phone, but the HDR on my phone doesn't do anything but make the pictures look richer.

    To me lots of HDR looks like the airbrushed images on the side of some pickup trucks or an 18 wheeler.
    Nothing wrong with that , but not my taste.

    I like HDR to create natural looking images in photographically impossible lighting conditions.
  • ChuckcChuckc Posts: 4,398 Captain
    SLS wrote: »
    Thanks Chuck.
    You wouldn't be the same ChuckC on DSLReports would you?

    No, that's not me.
  • JWTJWT Posts: 726 Officer
    This thread piqued my interest enough that i shot a couple brackets to see how it works. i think it's a good technique for difficult situations where the light is tough. i want to try it on some landscapes when i get a chance. interesting process & easy to get carried away with it! Having to carry a tripod will be the "limiting" factor for me tho!
  • ChuckcChuckc Posts: 4,398 Captain
    The single shot HDR software is getting better and better so bracketing is less necessary than in the past. You will still get better results using a set of bracketed images though.

    This shot is certainly far from perfect but I like the way the HDR treatment makes the subject pop. It was very dark inside when I took it. I will re-shoot the scene on a cloudy day sometime and see what it looks like.

    Many have seen this before, my apologies.
    9701942483_e24eabad10_k.jpgDSC_3529_31_30_8_Detailcropped by Flcrutch, on Flickr
  • SLSSLS Posts: 181 Deckhand
    Chuckc wrote: »
    The single shot HDR software is getting better and better so bracketing is less necessary than in the past. You will still get better results using a set of bracketed images though.
    HDR 1 shot is a good tool to get those high saturated dramatic effects.
    It's another unique tool like some of the Topaz Labs effects of which I have a few, or the NiK effects which I spent hundreds for 2 of the programs, and now are ALL free
  • SLSSLS Posts: 181 Deckhand
    The full multi exposure HDR software still interests me more even though I never really use it.
    I did exactly one photo this way, and just as a test.
    I found it very difficult on my one and only, to merge 7 images into one image.

    This is what I did shot at Ellis Island.
    BTW, the Empire State Building can be seen in the window of the door.
    Again, I'm not passing this off as art, it was a test of HDR using software Photoshop's or Photomatrix, I don't remember.
  • mississippi macmississippi mac Posts: 4,222 Captain
    Chuckc wrote: »
    The single shot HDR software is getting better and better so bracketing is less necessary than in the past. You will still get better results using a set of bracketed images though.

    This shot is certainly far from perfect but I like the way the HDR treatment makes the subject pop. It was very dark inside when I took it. I will re-shoot the scene on a cloudy day sometime and see what it looks like.

    Many have seen this before, my apologies.
    9701942483_e24eabad10_k.jpgDSC_3529_31_30_8_Detailcropped by Flcrutch, on Flickr

    Chuck, SLS,
    as I said earlier, I don't like over the top HDR except once in a great while because of subject matter...
    but I do use it for tough shots where it takes a lot of HDR to cover the tonal range of what i'm shooting...
    I will also use it as a tool to make a photo pop....

    Chuck's shot is a good example. He has posted it a few times using different PP techniques and I think I like this one the best...
    however, I seem to remember a dynamite B&W version of this shot....

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  • GardawgGardawg Posts: 9,651 Admiral
    IMG_2461_tonemapped.jpg


    tim


    I like the selfie with you on the roof best.
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  • JWTJWT Posts: 726 Officer
    Thanks Mr Mac for starting this thread, it inspired me to try this. lots of good input too~~ it is something i will use a bit.......i have just shot some test shots from the backyard to get the process down......... here is one...... i promise - just one :)
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  • mississippi macmississippi mac Posts: 4,222 Captain
    it's all a matter of taste...
    some people don't like B&W's...
    I do....

    this is an example of HDR and why I do it...

    base exposure 1/3 stop under to avoid blowing out the sky..


    I shot 4 additional images at +1 stop and +2 stops, the same over for 5 images after developing base shot in Lr...
    exported to Photomatix Pro...this is the result with no further manipulation....


    this is how well it works...camera on a tripod with a 50mm lens...

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  • Grady-ladyGrady-lady east of the river, west of the woodsPosts: 5,282 Admiral
    mac - I don't know what HDR means but I love those two Cedar Key images! The second one looks like a painting. To my eyes they are awesome.

    ps - re the beach/sunset images - I have a similar set taken on my new p&s ( which, obviously, I'm not very good with), and edited with whatever it is that comes with Photo Gallery. Yours are so much better but it is interesting we went for the same effect - the pro and the rank amateur. :)




    (most of beach cropped out)

    Love b&w too - same scene different shot, edited to b&w - none of these are FS photo corner worthy - just thot it interesting how great minds and artistic eye think alike, sometimes. :grin



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