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Idea vs Ideal ?? What have you heard and where ?
I recently found in a Boston Company's profile a sentence that use the word ideal in place of the correct word Idea. My Grammar suks too, but for this thread lets just concentrate on the words idea and ideal..
Here is the sentence in the "Bosotn Companies profile" Is it correct ? :
"Today our ideals continue to set us apart — from our carefully chosen leadership and construction partners, to unsurpassed corporate integrity."
Many times I have heard the word ideal used in a sentence where idea belongs. Mostly on TV as in Paul Teutul Sr on American Chopper. He used ideal many many times when talking about and "idea" he or someone else may have came up with for a bike.
Is it correct english ? I dont know and am asking because I have heard many people use it that way. I do think that it is used that way in a particular area of the country. Nothern New York state, over to Mass, RI, and some of conn. It must have been taught that way throughout the years because so many use the word ideal. (I have a great ideal to make a lot of money). You would not say, I think that this place is an "idea" place to live. Its an "Ideal" place to live...
Someone on this site ust use that term ideal in place of idea. Considering so many people down here are from the Boston, N. New York area. Please tell us if you were taught that way in school or did the "L" just get added because of the Accent ? I am just curious how it came to be...
Here is the sentence in the "Bosotn Companies profile" Is it correct ? :
"Today our ideals continue to set us apart — from our carefully chosen leadership and construction partners, to unsurpassed corporate integrity."
Many times I have heard the word ideal used in a sentence where idea belongs. Mostly on TV as in Paul Teutul Sr on American Chopper. He used ideal many many times when talking about and "idea" he or someone else may have came up with for a bike.
Is it correct english ? I dont know and am asking because I have heard many people use it that way. I do think that it is used that way in a particular area of the country. Nothern New York state, over to Mass, RI, and some of conn. It must have been taught that way throughout the years because so many use the word ideal. (I have a great ideal to make a lot of money). You would not say, I think that this place is an "idea" place to live. Its an "Ideal" place to live...
Someone on this site ust use that term ideal in place of idea. Considering so many people down here are from the Boston, N. New York area. Please tell us if you were taught that way in school or did the "L" just get added because of the Accent ? I am just curious how it came to be...
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when we say the same thing about welfare recipients, you cry like a wounded buffalo Sopchoppy
It's their money, they spend it how they like. Truth and honesty have nothing to do with it. - Mr Jr
"“A radical is one who advocates sweeping changes in the existing laws and methods of government.” "
:signs
:Agree
Ideal: noun
1. A conception of something in its absolute perfection.
2. One that is regarded as a standard or model of perfection or excellence.
3. An ultimate object of endeavor; a goal.
4. An honorable or worthy principle or aim.
Idea: noun
1.
any conception existing in the mind as a result of mental understanding, awareness, or activity.
2.
a thought, conception, or notion: That is an excellent idea.
3.
an impression: He gave me a general idea of how he plans to run the department.
4.
an opinion, view, or belief: His ideas on raising children are certainly strange.
5.
a plan of action; an intention: the idea of becoming an engineer.
when we say the same thing about welfare recipients, you cry like a wounded buffalo Sopchoppy
It's their money, they spend it how they like. Truth and honesty have nothing to do with it. - Mr Jr
"“A radical is one who advocates sweeping changes in the existing laws and methods of government.” "
Um, no.
ideal
1410, from L.L. idealis "existing in idea," from L. idea in the Platonic sense (see idea). Sense of "perfect" first recorded 1613. The noun meaning "perfect person or thing" is first recorded 1796 in a translation of Kant. The abstract idealism, also from 1796, originally meant
"belief that reality is made up only of ideas." Idealist "one who represents things in an ideal form" is from 1829, as is idealistic. Ideally "in the best conceivable situation" is from 1840. Idée fixe (1836) is from Fr., lit. "fixed idea."
http://www.jstor.org/pss/2709242
Ideology:
The word was coined by Destutt de Tracy in 1796,[1][2] assembling the parts idea (near to the Lockean sense) and -logy. He used it to refer to one aspect of his "science of ideas" ...
It should be AN idea...
:Spittingcoffee
It always seemed to me that the Boston accent lacked the letter 'r'
huh, a world with no RRR, kinda makes ya think.
zing!
And it should be their ideas. Because as the book shows above, ideal is something that is leaning toward perfection.
They could have wrote.
Our ideas set us apart and put us in an ideal position to crush our lower class competitors got ants inc. and Tater flavor llc.