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Rural America confronts a new class divide

mindyabinessmindyabiness Posts: 8,006 Admiral
The widening gulf between the haves and have nots is not limited to the Rust Belt’s cast-off manufacturing workers, working class suburbanites, or inner-city poor working on a stagnant minimum wage. The same trends have taken hold in farm country, though in different forms. The farms that once generated wealth for entire communities are now creating a new class of superfarmers.

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Society/2016/0730/Rural-America-confronts-a-new-class-divide
Arguing with idiots is like playing chess with a pigeon... No matter how good you are, the bird is going to crap on the board and strut around like it won anyway.
I AM NOT A RACIST

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  • Finger MulletFinger Mullet Posts: 3,852 Officer
    Local farms are doing ok, raising premium pigs, cattle and goats. Mega farms cannot compete with them on such things, albeit corn and such mega farms win. I grew up on a German farm, total post war I learned how to farm and ride a horse, way fun. I will support such folks if I can.
  • hooknlinehooknline Posts: 5,523 Admiral
    You have it backwards fingerhut. The small mom and pops can't compete with the mega farms. I know a few owners of the big almost mega farms and they get pricing in supplies that I can't
  • Finger MulletFinger Mullet Posts: 3,852 Officer
    hooknline wrote: »
    You have it backwards fingerhut. The small mom and pops can't compete with the mega farms. I know a few owners of the big almost mega farms and they get pricing in supplies that I can't

    I don't believe that real good premium products like goats, pig and cattle will not survive mega farms, been there done it. I luv local shiken from a local farm near Kiel, just sayin.

    And why in the world are you calling me Fingerhut, that is just odd, its FingerMullet
  • hooknlinehooknline Posts: 5,523 Admiral
    I never said we wouldn't survive. But we can't compete in the same markets.
  • CountryBumpkinCountryBumpkin Posts: 1,893 Captain
  • Finger MulletFinger Mullet Posts: 3,852 Officer
    ok I went to that link, well just weird
  • ParkerboyParkerboy Posts: 7,045 Admiral
    I try to buy local in all products when possible this includes farmers markets, a locally owned meat market, grocery store, a True Value hardware store, and a family owned sporting goods store. I pay a bit more and in some cases much more but I want them to survive.
    Deo Vindice
  • FibberMckeeFibberMckee Posts: 12,826 AG
    Have wondered how many contributors here live in "Rural America" & suspect not many really live in "Rural America".
  • Finger MulletFinger Mullet Posts: 3,852 Officer
    Have wondered how many contributors here live in "Rural America" & suspect not many really live in "Rural America".

    I live in the city, but drive to my local farm gatherings and purchase veggies and fresh good meat, I like it and the local goat raised by some Haitian folks, just rocks. Ever had a good rack of goat, **** that is some good stuff.
  • mindyabinessmindyabiness Posts: 8,006 Admiral
    Where is this Haitian goat farm with the "good meat"you like so much?
    Arguing with idiots is like playing chess with a pigeon... No matter how good you are, the bird is going to crap on the board and strut around like it won anyway.
    I AM NOT A RACIST
  • Finger MulletFinger Mullet Posts: 3,852 Officer
    I don't know I just go to the local market gatherings, I think Jupiter Farms, but I could be wrong, but they are nice and the goat does rock.
  • mjnmjn Posts: 1,577 Captain
    Farmers I know drive ferraris, its been that way for decades.
  • FibberMckeeFibberMckee Posts: 12,826 AG
    Was raised in & live in "Rural America". Have almost always lived in "Rural America" & have seen the decline of the family farm first hand.
    I live in the city, but drive to my local farm gatherings and purchase veggies and fresh good meat

    The rise of niche farm markets for specialty items is encouraging. There is no doubt many of the organic & atypical products are appealing & fresh. However they only represent a small fraction of the former family farm activity & do not even begin to compete with the factory farming discussed in CSM article.

    The county I grew up in was virtually all family farms, hardly any still exist. However in recent years the "local farm gatherings" you mention (farmer's markets) have been organized & become popular. And a number of small farms have popped up, but the acreage under cultivation is a fraction of what it had been & most of the land that is still worked is in the hands of the big farms that pasted several family farms together.

    There's a 7 acre CSA run by women on one side of me & one of CSM's big farms, that stitched together parts of at least 4 family farms, on the other.

    Most former farmland has gone residential, being converted into what citiots think of as "Rural America".

    The "new class divide" is between those with roots here, who know the history, AND all the newbies, with more money than brains, who want to plasticize "Rural America".
  • lakemanlakeman Posts: 821 Officer
    Not sure where RURAL AMERICA is. Out west in the plains, or just remote areas/homes out side of bigger cities, once called suburban areas not rural.
    I will have to agree, the income difference between rich and poor is growing faster than we might like. Lots of stuff contributes to it, like welfare, where you can sometimes make more money with welfare than working for Walmart or win dixie. Actually had a friend with a estranged daughter who he could not understand why she did not work with two kids no spouse. When he found the truth, is was shocking for him since he is very conservative, at least he is not back talking to his daughter.
  • jad1097jad1097 Posts: 9,611 Admiral
    Was raised in & live in "Rural America". Have almost always lived in "Rural America" & have seen the decline of the family farm first hand.



    The rise of niche farm markets for specialty items is encouraging. There is no doubt many of the organic & atypical products are appealing & fresh. However they only represent a small fraction of the former family farm activity & do not even begin to compete with the factory farming discussed in CSM article.

    The county I grew up in was virtually all family farms, hardly any still exist. However in recent years the "local farm gatherings" you mention (farmer's markets) have been organized & become popular. And a number of small farms have popped up, but the acreage under cultivation is a fraction of what it had been & most of the land that is still worked is in the hands of the big farms that pasted several family farms together.

    There's a 7 acre CSA run by women on one side of me & one of CSM's big farms, that stitched together parts of at least 4 family farms, on the other.

    Most former farmland has gone residential, being converted into what citiots think of as "Rural America".

    The "new class divide" is between those with roots here, who know the history, AND all the newbies, with more money than brains, who want to plasticize "Rural America".


    :thumbsup


    I cringe every time I see a subdivision going in
  • Nick NikonNick Nikon Posts: 5,010 Admiral
    lakeman wrote: »
    ... I will have to agree, the income difference between rich and poor is growing faster than we might like. Lots of stuff contributes to it, like welfare, where you can sometimes make more money with welfare than working for Walmart or win dixie. Actually had a friend with a estranged daughter who he could not understand why she did not work with two kids no spouse. When he found the truth, is was shocking for him since he is very conservative, at least he is not back talking to his daughter.

    A developer recently attempted to further colonize our neighborhood with yet another Walgreens.

    Part of their pitch was that it would bring "jobs".

    They didn't mention the hourly wage that workers receive at Walgreens.

    People working there, at the nearest store, for over a decade, have seen little benefit.

    After 15 years on the job, their wages have increased a grand total of $3.00.

    Without knowing their actual wages, it's hard to tell for certain, but it appears that when inflation is figured in ( 36.2% since 2001 ) those poor devils are making less than they were when they started.

    So, lets all give a resounding cheer for Corporate Profits, and Poverty Wages!
  • hooknlinehooknline Posts: 5,523 Admiral
    We currently live on 10 acres, and are running cattle on 330 acres in 7 different parcels. Is that rural? Hard to say compared to other parts of the country
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