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cold water upwelling ?

tell me about the cold water upwelling ? there's a cold water upwelling that happens off the beach - shuts down the bottom fishing ?
can we please stop using the word ISSUE ? it's a PROBLEM
:wink

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  • duckmanJRduckmanJR Posts: 20,929 AG
    Yes... It is very similar to what happens in lakes up north called "turn over"... Cold bottom water is driven inshore....It usually happens right around mini season most years.

    This is when a roffers chart helps out...
    There are many roads to travel
    Many things to do.
    Knots to be unraveled
    'fore the darkness falls on you
  • gatorhookgatorhook Posts: 657 Officer
    It shuts the bottom bite down by stunning/shock. But also pushes deeper fish inshore searching for warmth. Shark will be in full force. It makes spearfishing incredibly easy if you can stand the cold 50 degree water.
  • Saltydog83Saltydog83 Posts: 94 Greenhorn
    It is starting to happen right now. 6 miles off the beach it was 77degrees......10 miles was 84 degrees.
  • gandrfabgandrfab Posts: 21,685 AG
    Time to fish the steeples when that happens. Longer ride troll around over them, they are easy to spot even on a bottom machine.
    Did you get a hot spots map yet?
  • gandrfabgandrfab Posts: 21,685 AG
    You will be fishing 260' +
    AJ's normally hang around the top, got to drop fast to get the bait past them.
  • duckmanJRduckmanJR Posts: 20,929 AG
    It is starting here out of Sebastian....As I broke the inlet this morning you could actually FEEL it...a slight coolness in the air...put my hand in the water and it was definitely colder than a few days ago.
    There are many roads to travel
    Many things to do.
    Knots to be unraveled
    'fore the darkness falls on you
  • squidvicioussquidvicious Posts: 529 Officer
    gandrfab wrote: »
    Time to fish the steeples when that happens. Longer ride troll around over them, they are easy to spot even on a bottom machine.
    Did you get a hot spots map yet?



    fished that area a few times - high speed trolling

    bottom fishing too


    just asking if the bottom fishing in that area is shut down


    it's my understanding,the water temp on the bottom,in deep water,remains a constant temp year round
    can we please stop using the word ISSUE ? it's a PROBLEM
    :wink
  • gandrfabgandrfab Posts: 21,685 AG
    When the cold water comes in it turns off the shallow water bite.
  • FlecFlec Posts: 705 Officer
    Cold water on the beach does not occur every year. If we have a lot of west,southwest winds, then it is more likely to drop the water temp because that wind blows the warmer surface water offshore and it is replaced by cooler water from below. July was VERY dry and we had more east/southeast wind (seabreeze) than normal and that kept warmer water inshore. If we can get through most of August then we may not have it happen this year because it rarely happens after Sept gets here. Cold beach water is usually very dirty too.
  • duckmanJRduckmanJR Posts: 20,929 AG
    Too late...73 in the inlet today
    There are many roads to travel
    Many things to do.
    Knots to be unraveled
    'fore the darkness falls on you
  • FlecFlec Posts: 705 Officer
    I was at Wabasso beach Mon eve,,water felt normal at around 82 degrees. Just looked at the Ft Pierce inshore buoy and it says 81.
  • gatorhookgatorhook Posts: 657 Officer
    The bottom is not where the buoys are. Topwater stays warm. It's shuts the bottom down, fish get stunned and sometimes die if it gets cold enough. With that burst of dry air that just came from the North Atlantic it's gonna get cooler.
  • saltybumsaltybum Posts: 1,611 Captain
    And this is when commercial divers with their power heads will slaughter the grouper to the tune 40-50 head per trip if they can.
    No bag limits, they can do this till the water warms or they have killed every last grouper is sight.
    Ever wonder why it's so hard to catch a gag or just your ONE these days?
  • FlecFlec Posts: 705 Officer
    It is not unusual for very cold water to come right in on the beaches. It does not happen but maybe 30% of the mid summer time but I have seen 68 degree water during July/August a few times. And when the seabreeze kicks in by midday, it is like someone turned on the airconditioner along the beach once the wind switches from SW to ESE. The offshore cold water does usually happen every year. I remember diving out of Seb in 80' and 66 degrees and then surfacing into 84 degree water.
  • gandrfabgandrfab Posts: 21,685 AG
    saltybum wrote: »
    And this is when commercial divers with their power heads will slaughter the grouper to the tune 40-50 head per trip if they can.
    No bag limits, they can do this till the water warms or they have killed every last grouper is sight.
    Ever wonder why it's so hard to catch a gag or just your ONE these days?

    Fishing the wrong spot. Move, find ledges and fish them.
  • NSB PhotogNSB Photog Posts: 539 Officer
    I remember one summer when the water temp on the beach got down to the upper 50s! Felt like California, with fog and all! It lasted for a couple of weeks before we finally got a tropical system that pushed some wind and swell in. I remember surfing the day the swell moved in and there were pockets of 80 degree water mixed in with the pockets of 60 degree water. Whenever a cold pocket would move in everyone would paddle down the beach as far as they had to until they found another warm pocket. :grin
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  • FletchFletch Merritt Island, FLPosts: 2,461 Moderator
    saltybum wrote: »
    And this is when commercial divers with their power heads will slaughter the grouper to the tune 40-50 head per trip if they can.
    No bag limits, they can do this till the water warms or they have killed every last grouper is sight.
    Ever wonder why it's so hard to catch a gag or just your ONE these days?

    Actually, they do have a daily trip limit and there is an annual quota that, once met, stops all commercial harvest for the remainder of the year. It's also not nearly as easy or pleasant as some would have you believe.

    Most of the commercial grouper harvest is taken in the Carolinas by the way.
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  • saltybumsaltybum Posts: 1,611 Captain
    Yeah? Had a friend tell me Saturday he was out at the port Fri. and was amazed at all the grouper this one dive boat was unloading at the fish house. gandrfab....when the water is cold those grouper are very cold and lethargic and DO NOT eat. PERIOD, They just lay around waiting to get picked off like a deer in the headlights.

    I'm just glad I'm getting old and enjoyed offshore AND inshore fishing when it was good for everyone. The river is dying and everything in it and offshore isn't worth the time or gas for recreational fishing.
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