HARD WORKIN POOR FOLKS

Turner River Terror

How can there be such a thing..
If your Hard Working..you should be making good money.:banana
We've all herd the Term before. I know lot's of Hard Working Folks, they'll never be Millionaires but they got stuff.
Pay for Dinner sometimes..:wink
I can see if your 20 and got a Wife and Baby..little experience ect., but staying that way for years..:kick
Are they Wage Slaves..Didn't they move up the Ladder in a couple years...
Hard Work comes with Rewards...More money is a reward.
How can they still be Hard working Poor Folks...?:huh

Heatwave

The Ladder is gone ! And costs out climb the income... Everything is Always going up and wages have not came close to keeping up. Consider your job, how many new young guys would do the same thing for 2/3 of what you make ? All of them ?
I dont know... I know that the new place i started several of months ago as a contract electrician (3 story building in Vero) Has 25 white guys, maybe 15 black guys and the rest are spanish. None of the electricians make more than 22 an hour, except the one lead. A group from Coastal Contracting has maybe 35 guys (15 stick close together because they are all cuban and none speak english) Making 17 - 19 an hour. Even the super makes about 70 K.
These are the same numbers you would find 15 years ago, the same ! except it would have been 40W, 25B, and 25S. I remember supers making upwards of 90 or even 125K on jobs like this and electricians had to be Journeyman, with card and made 24. Most of the electricians are thru a workforce supply, they get 16 an hour, no card, no insurance, no holiday, no 401K and so on... Trust me when I say, it is hard, hot work, and at 51, i struggle to keep up. I made 16 an hour doing the same exact thing in 1991.
Now, one could say that I should have moved up to own my own company, or, be a master electrician making 27 an hour. So in 25 years, the starting wage is about 3 or 5 dollars more for a skilled electrician walking on the job. On 16 an hour in 91 I lived pretty good, apt. rent was 525.00 for a 3 bedroom condo, electric was 60 -70, phone bill was 40, cable 25.... All have tripled or quadrupled, if such, and pay doesnt follow, you become a hard working poor guy.
Just my take on it... Outside of that, I make lots of other money and wife doubles mine. Just giving you a peek at what I see others doing. They are all not that bright either in that they spend dumb. As if they dont already not make enough, they buy 16 oz. pepsi's and mountain dews for $1.79.00 $3.00 egg salad sandwiches, etc... Just dumb ! This is the lowest teer of contract workers in this area too, not like the best of the best, others do make more elsewhere. But when it comes to bidding out jobs like this, the Company with the cheapest workforce, overhead, and will hire non english speaking workers wins because they will do it for 2 bucks less an hour.

jad1097

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saltyreefer

Heatwave wrote: »

The Ladder is gone ! And costs out climb the income... Everything is Always going up and wages have not came close to keeping up. Consider your job, how many new young guys would do the same thing for 2/3 of what you make ? All of them ?
I dont know... I know that the new place i started several of months ago as a contract electrician (3 story building in Vero) Has 25 white guys, maybe 15 black guys and the rest are spanish. None of the electricians make more than 22 an hour, except the one lead. A group from Coastal Contracting has maybe 35 guys (15 stick close together because they are all cuban and none speak english) Making 17 - 19 an hour. Even the super makes about 70 K.
These are the same numbers you would find 15 years ago, the same ! except it would have been 40W, 25B, and 25S. I remember supers making upwards of 90 or even 125K on jobs like this and electricians had to be Journeyman, with card and made 24. Most of the electricians are thru a workforce supply, they get 16 an hour, no card, no insurance, no holiday, no 401K and so on... Trust me when I say, it is hard, hot work, and at 51, i struggle to keep up. I made 16 an hour doing the same exact thing in 1991.
Now, one could say that I should have moved up to own my own company, or, be a master electrician making 27 an hour. So in 25 years, the starting wage is about 3 or 5 dollars more for a skilled electrician walking on the job. On 16 an hour in 91 I lived pretty good, apt. rent was 525.00 for a 3 bedroom condo, electric was 60 -70, phone bill was 40, cable 25.... All have tripled or quadrupled, if such, and pay doesnt follow, you become a hard working poor guy.
Just my take on it... Outside of that, I make lots of other money and wife doubles mine. Just giving you a peek at what I see others doing. They are all not that bright either in that they spend dumb. As if they dont already not make enough, they buy 16 oz. pepsi's and mountain dews for $1.79.00 $3.00 egg salad sandwiches, etc... Just dumb ! This is the lowest teer of contract workers in this area too, not like the best of the best, others do make more elsewhere. But when it comes to bidding out jobs like this, the Company with the cheapest workforce, overhead, and will hire non english speaking workers wins because they will do it for 2 bucks less an hour.

nicely said

saltyreefer

Don't forget about the hard working folks at McDonalds that want 15hr

Baits Out

The key is not only hard workin but smart workin.

See many nice hard working young people in my travels about in grocery stores and such.

Always try to engage in conversations about are they also going to school, etc.

Jay G

My mother was a hard working poor woman. By choice. She wanted to be a science fiction writer. So she waited tables at night and wrote during the day, while raising two kids. We were very poor. It took her 18 years before she could make a living at writing, and still wasn't making any more money than she was waiting tables. She has always managed to make ends meet, and works tirelessly, but my mom has always been pretty poor. She's retired now, just making ends meet. Again, this was all by choice. She could have gone a different route, but that's not what she wanted to do.

I haven't been poor since I graduated from college.

Jay