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Baits OutBaits Out Posts: 12,328 AG
Drunken-driving convictions could increase because of the Supreme Court's recent ruling

Last week, the Supreme Court ruled that police officers could administer warrantless Breathalyzer tests to people suspected of driving drunk.

The case, Birchfield v. North Dakota, effectively criminalizes the refusal to submit to a Breathalyzer test and affects laws in 11 states.

The outcome will most likely lead to an increase in drunken-driving convictions across the country, according to Derek Andrews, a defense attorney at the DUI Foundation, the organization linked to the viral "silent" drunken-driving checkpoint hack.

The Fourth Amendment protects against unreasonable searches and seizures, though laws vary by state. Many lawyers openly encourage their clients to refuse a Breathalyzer because prosecutors have a harder time landing convictions with less evidence. Depending on the probable cause, refusing to take a pre-arrest Breathalyzer likely won't result in a license suspension, but in many states, like New York, refusing a post-arrest Breathalyzer could lead to automatic license suspension of varying durations.

With the Supreme Court's decision, however, there could be "an increase in the number of chemical test results," Andrews wrote in an email to Business Insider. People might be more likely to submit for fear of the certain legal repercussions. Chemical tests can be a Breathalyzer, blood draw, or even a urine sample.

To put it simply, more people submitting to Breathalyzer tests means that states and prosecutors will have greater evidence against them.

While a state should be able to ask for a warrantless Breathalyzer test, and even a blood draw, states should not be able to criminalize the refusal of the test, according to Andrews.

"It is a fundamental premise of our criminal justice system that it is the government's burden to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that someone is guilty of a crime, and it is the government's duty to collect evidence and develop a case," Andrews wrote. "It is not, however, a person's duty to give that evidence to the government."

Issuing criminal penalties, however, could also encourage people to refuse a Breathalyzer.

"This country is simply going to have more criminals because the government has chosen to criminalize a refusal to provide (potentially) incriminating evidence to law enforcement," Andrews wrote. ".... There are other ways of combating DWI/DUI than convicting more people of crimes."

It's worth nothing the Supreme Court differentiated between Breathalyzer tests and blood tests, arguing that because blood draws are more intrusive, states may not demand them without a warrant.

The decision combines three cases but centers on an incident in North Dakota, in which a man, after crashing his car, took a Breathalyzer which found his blood-alcohol concentration (BAC) at three times the legal limit. He didn't, however, agree to a blood draw was charged with a misdemeanor.

While Justice Sonia Sotomayor sided with the majority's opinion on warrantless blood tests, she took issue with the Court "establishing exceptions to the warrant requirement" and suggested that states should find other ways to combat drunk driving that "do not have the same impact on personal privacy" as allowing warrantless Breathalyzer tests.

Andrews, for his part, agrees.

"The Fourth Amendment is being attacked and our freedoms in this country are being whittled away," he wrote.

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  • GardawgGardawg Posts: 16,800 AG
    bring on the self driving cars

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  • MelbourneMarkMelbourneMark Posts: 3,843 Captain
    Give it 10 years and we will have some kind of B.A.C. Sensor in car prior to us being able to drive.
  • mississippi macmississippi mac Posts: 4,222 Captain
    Give it 10 years and we will have some kind of B.A.C. Sensor in car prior to us being able to drive.
    already here in skrippy land...in part...
    if you get busted for a dui, and get your license back on a hardship deal, or a couple of other issues, the state puts a box in your car that you have to blow in or the vehicle will not start...
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  • MRichardsonMRichardson Posts: 10,466 AG
    Give it 10 years and we will have some kind of B.A.C. Sensor in car prior to us being able to drive.

    No way. They could easily have done that 10 years ago.

    Cuts out too much revenues from the stream flowing through the LEO depts, courts, and prison vendors.
    I have never seen live bones, but I know that they are often used by rich people to decorate the interior.
  • MelbourneMarkMelbourneMark Posts: 3,843 Captain
    already here in skrippy land...in part...
    if you get busted for a dui, and get your license back on a hardship deal, or a couple of other issues, the state puts a box in your car that you have to blow in or the vehicle will not start...


    My co-worker had one for a while. Think it took 3 DUIs before they installed it. He doesn't drink anymore. Thankfully he never wrecked anyone.


    I saw somewhere where they were already testing sensors in the steering wheel to sense alcohol thru the skin.... Give it a while before it's law in new cars IMHO.

    And yes, DUIs are a huge cash grab for agencies, lawyers, and govts. Doubt they will want to end that anytime soon.
  • tennmiketennmike Posts: 400 Deckhand
    DUI convictions are a cash cow for courts and PDs. The fines and court costs and lawyer fees are considerable. And if probation is involved then that adds more costs to be paid to the court system. And then there's the increase in vehicle insurance when the insurance company finds out, assuming they don't drop the offender like a bad habit.

    For the cash flow to courts and PDs alone, I'd think that they wouldn't be all that thrilled to see breathalyzers as standard equipment in vehicles. A few hundred $$$ here and a few hundred $$$ there, and eventually it adds up to lots of cash and new toys for the PDs and the courts.
  • Keep on SpoolinKeep on Spoolin Posts: 1,359 Officer
    It's all a money grab anymore, where will it end?
  • Finger MulletFinger Mullet Posts: 3,852 Officer
    Give it 10 years and we will have some kind of B.A.C. Sensor in car prior to us being able to drive.

    Good just like the 1984 book, comes from the factory for everyone and if you fail sucker drives you home albeit slowly.

    My wife was killed by a drunk driver, she was sitting still at a red light and got T-boned, I see people at restaurants drinking all the time then just drive home, really bothers me.
  • HeatwaveHeatwave Posts: 1,997 Captain
    Doesnt matter for the 50% that know Wrigleys Spearmint gum wipes out the numbers. As soon as they get pulled over the chew 2 or 3 pieces and it is 0...
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