The newest national monument.

mindyabiness

I found it very amusing that 50 years ago, New York City had a law prohibiting the sale of acholic beverages to homosexuals.
That's funny.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/stonewall-inn-recognized-as-national-monument-to-gay-rights-1467059189

Turner River Terror

50 years ago the Sign on one of the the Bathrooms door at the Factory across the street from my house in Miami said BLACKS..
Now we have Rainbow lights on the Capital.
9 kinds of bathrooms in Schools.
Gay Pride Parades.
Chaz Bono and Bruce Jenner....Yee Haw.
Remember when our Hero's were Astronauts and Scientists..Audie Murphy and Jimmie Doolittle..

fins4me

It is ridiculous and embarrassing for our nation.

Gardawg

bullgator

We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed, by their CREATOR, with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness.


​It's not an easy standard to live up to but it's well worth pursuing.

FibberMckee

http://www.advocate.com/arts-entertainment/people/2014/10/09/tbt-they-died-closet

Baits Out

When I was a little kid living in a small town in southeast Florida our U.S. post office
had two drinking fountains:

One "WHITES"

One "COLORED"

There was no mail delivery. You had to go check your box at the post office.

There was also one police officer -- The Chief. For white people only.

The blacks lived west of the railroad track and took care of their own.

Crime was almost non-existent and the usual penalty was to escort them to
the edge of town and told to never come back. Some, I guess, also received
a beating.

mjn

bullgator wrote: »

We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed, by their CREATOR, with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness.

SCREAMS legalize pot

Cyclist

fins4me wrote: »

It is ridiculous and embarrassing for our nation.

Your homophobia? Good thing people like you are in the minority or our country really would be screwed.

Parkerboy

How is it that someone who disagrees with a particular belief or lifestyle has a phobia?

Cyclist

Parkerboy wrote: »

How is it that someone who disagrees with a particular belief or lifestyle has a phobia?

It is not believing in the rights of others...christians believing that "god" made individuals are heathens is an anomaly.....

Parkerboy

The word phobia means irrational or persistent fear. I doubt Fins fears homosexuals but rather disapproves of their actions probably based on his religious teachings and beliefs.

You, and everyone else, disagrees with someone else's beliefs does that mean you have a phobia?

2true

Cyclist wrote: »

It is not believing in the rights of others...christians believing that "god" made individuals are heathens is an anomaly.....

*Ping* God Basher

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Baits Out wrote: »

When I was a little kid living in a small town in southeast Florida our U.S. post office
had two drinking fountains:

One "WHITES"

One "COLORED"

There was no mail delivery. You had to go check your box at the post office.

There was also one police officer -- The Chief. For white people only.

The blacks lived west of the railroad track and took care of their own.

Crime was almost non-existent and the usual penalty was to escort them to
the edge of town and told to never come back. Some, I guess, also received
a beating.

Didn't have to be a small town.I remember the colored and white water fountains at J Byrons in Hialeah when I was a kid.

But they were progressive enough to have gender neutral bathrooms! One white, one colored!

Demere

Cyclist wrote: »

Your homophobia? Good thing people like you are in the minority or our country really would be screwed.

"Argument" by insult and conclusion. I hear this form of "argument" all the time - from both sides of the isle. If some one disagrees they are and idiot, a racist, etc. No facts to support their position - just insults and unsupported conclusions. If you disagree with the "conclusion" the same pattern emerges - a conclusion that by disagreeing you are a "fill in the blank". To me this is pretty much the same level of argument as "I'm rubber, your glue, what you say bounces off me and sticks to you". Maybe we could up the level of discourse a bit and maybe even a bit of courtesy (i.e. no personal insults). It's a ton of fun to engage in serious and respectful argument. Everybody is stimulated and if the arguments are skillful everybody learns something. Try it - you'll like it.

Cyclist

Demere wrote: »

"Argument" by insult and conclusion. I hear this form of "argument" all the time - from both sides of the isle. If some one disagrees they are and idiot, a racist, etc. No facts to support their position - just insults and unsupported conclusions. If you disagree with the "conclusion" the same pattern emerges - a conclusion that by disagreeing you are a "fill in the blank". To me this is pretty much the same level of argument as "I'm rubber, your glue, what you say bounces off me and sticks to you". Maybe we could up the level of discourse a bit and maybe even a bit of courtesy (i.e. no personal insults). It's a ton of fun to engage in serious and respectful argument. Everybody is stimulated and if the arguments are skillful everybody learns something. Try it - you'll like it.

Ask fins your self. Ask him what he would do when one of his kids turns out gay....

Demere

Cyclist wrote: »

Ask fins your self. Ask him what he would do when one of his kids turns out gay....

That's better - asking questions of the opponent is one of the proper ways to develop facts to support or refute a position in the argument.

Cyclist

Demere wrote: »

That's better - asking questions of the opponent is one of the proper ways to develop facts to support or refute a position in the argument.

But...I have asked these questions before....and he has replied....hence my earlier statement. He is scared of gays, thinks they are abominations and is glad his gawd will send them to hell.

I'm not making this crap up....

SAENole

^

heterophobia

Cyclist

SAENole wrote: »

^

heterophobia

:rotflmao

Demere

Cyclist wrote: »

But...I have asked these questions before....and he has replied....hence my earlier statement. He is scared of gays, thinks they are abominations and is glad his gawd will send them to hell.

I'm not making this crap up....

My comments weren't directed to the merits of your position or your opponents. Rather they are directed to the method of argument. It is of very little consequence to me what he, or you believe. This particular debate (whether someone is/isn't homophobic) is so old and played out it has no value to me. You two are arguing whose personal belief is right or wrong. You disagree. The method of argument being employed won't lead to any conclusion, just back and forth name calling. I just thought it might be fun for you guys to debate the MERITS of your respective positions.

Cyclist

Demere wrote: »

My comments weren't directed to the merits of your position or your opponents. Rather they are directed to the method of argument. It is of very little consequence to me what he, or you believe. This particular debate (whether someone is/isn't homophobic) is so old and played out it has no value to me. You two are arguing whose personal belief is right or wrong. You disagree. The method of argument being employed won't lead to any conclusion, just back and forth name calling. I just thought it might be fun for you guys to debate the MERITS of your respective positions.

I appreciate you opinion.

fins4me

Cyclist wrote: »

But...I have asked these questions before....and he has replied....hence my earlier statement. He is scared of gays, thinks they are abominations and is glad his gawd will send them to hell.

I'm not making this crap up....

You sir are a cowardly low down liar.


I have NEVER said or insinuated that I would be glad for anyone to be sent to hell.


I am not scared of any man especially some light footed f a g. Or a smelly bike riding hippie.

My children are normal well adjusted accomplished individuals. And by the way keep them out of your slanderous commentary.

Liar

stc1993

homophobia or homophobic are just words made up by the leftist main stream media. If you break them down the meanings makes no sense.

jad1097

Parkerboy wrote: »

The word phobia means irrational or persistent fear. I doubt Fins fears homosexuals but rather disapproves of their actions probably based on his religious teachings and beliefs.

You, and everyone else, disagrees with someone else's beliefs does that mean you have a phobia?

you should look up the word he used instead of doing the typical rwnj spin


Definition of homophobia

: irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals

homophobic play \-ˈfō-bik\ adjective http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/homophobia

Cyclist

fins4me wrote: »

You sir are a cowardly low down liar.


I have NEVER said or insinuated that I would be glad for anyone to be sent to hell.


I am not scared of any man especially some light footed f a g. Or a smelly bike riding hippie.

My children are normal well adjusted accomplished individuals. And by the way keep them out of your slanderous commentary.

Liar

What brand of christianity do you proclaim to adhere to?

Parkerboy

jad1097 wrote: »

you should look up the word he used instead of doing the typical rwnj spin


Definition of homophobia

: irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals

homophobic play \-ˈfō-bik\ adjective http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/homophobia

The popular definition morphed from people being afraid of homosexuals. Politics via activist homosexuals changed the meaning to aversion or discrimination. I know many people who disagree with the homosexual lifestyle based on moral and/or religious reasons yet do not hate or discriminate against homosexuals. While I do not agree with their moral or religious beliefs I know they do not hate or discriminate.

Saying everyone who condemns the homosexual actions and lifestyle battles and discriminates is painting with too broad a brush.

Demere

Parkerboy wrote: »

The popular definition morphed from people being afraid of homosexuals. Politics via activist homosexuals changed the meaning to aversion or discrimination. I know many people who disagree with the homosexual lifestyle based on moral and/or religious reasons yet do not hate or discriminate against homosexuals. While I do not agree with their moral or religious beliefs I know they do not hate or discriminate.

Saying everyone who condemns the homosexual actions and lifestyle battles and discriminates is painting with too broad a brush.

I agree. Well reasoned and a valid point. I would also point out the hypocrisy of claiming that anyone who disagrees with homosexuality is homophobic (the idea being that any such individual is guilty of stereotypical thinking) while the claim itself is stereotypical as you pointed out.

coldair

bullgator wrote: »

We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed, by their CREATOR, with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness.


​It's not an easy standard to live up to but it's well worth pursuing.

no where does it say that some humans are special snowflakes and should be treated like that.
everyone should be treat the same crappy way the white American heterosexual, working male gets treated

Gardawg

Homophobic is accurate because the view that being LGBT is a sin is nothing more than ignorant superstition.

And that ignorant superstition is based on an unreasonable fear. That's the very definition of phobia.

Why else would mobs burn homosexuals at the stake? Were they dissatisfied with their hairstyling? Afraid they'd break in their house and rearrange the furniture?

But The Taliban, ISIS and Al Queda certainly agree with your view. Maybe y'all could get together and compare notes.

coldair

Gardawg wrote: »

Homophobic is accurate because the view that being LGBT is a sin is nothing more than ignorant superstition.

And that ignorant superstition is based on an unreasonable fear. That's the very definition of phobia.

Why else would mobs burn homosexuals at the stake? Were they dissatisfied with their hairstyling? Afraid they'd break in their house and rearrange the furniture?

But The Taliban, ISIS and Al Queda certainly agree with your view. Maybe y'all could get together and compare notes.

I don't give a rat's **** what they do with their bodies, they don't deserve special treatment. if they are to be equal it means equal, not protected, not catered to, nada, zip, nothing, equal.

e·qual
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being the same in quantity, size, degree, or value.
"add equal amounts of water and flour"
synonyms: identical, uniform, alike, like, the same, equivalent; More
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"the players proved equal to the task"
synonyms: capable of, fit for, up to, good enough for, strong enough for; More
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1.
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"we all treat each other as equals"
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