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Red Snapper fishery in NE gulf in trouble

snake 166snake 166 Posts: 101 Deckhand
Looking at my catch statistics, reports from fishing forums and local angler news, and the targeted fishing locations of state licensed charters, the recreational snapper fishery in state waters is collapsing. Fish are hard to find and small. Anglers have moved out of the nearshore spots and are running farther to find fish. Could be an extended bout of red tide last fall or maybe the end of a 10 year run of exceptional stock strength but starting to look like the fishery prior to 2007.


  • Tom HiltonTom Hilton Posts: 1,595 Captain
    That's what segregation, discrimination, and prohibition do.
  • reel stamasreel stamas Posts: 6,153 Admiral
    Fishing out of Panama City Bch, Mex. Bch & Destin has been better than ever... but the State Waters fish are getting hit hard & will be a lot tougher to find very soon...
    There should be NO Commercial Fishing for any fish species considered 'Over-fished' , 'Undergoing Overfishing' or Subject to Recreational Seasons, Limits, or Closures... Game Fish Status IS the Answer !!!
  • SpineymanSpineyman Destin, FlPosts: 8,377 Admiral
    Here is the problem. When you have multiple species closures and only a few left open for any length of time there is added undue pressure put on those open species. You cannot manage a fishery like that. If the stocks were truly depleted then you should shut down the entire catch and not allow the commercial side to still take their allotment.This is nothing more than agenda driven politics not fish stocks management.
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  • TheMarkOdomTheMarkOdom Posts: 32 Deckhand
    A wise man once told me that Red Tide was not deeper than 8-10'.

    When Red Tide was at it's peak I saw mullet, bait,and catfish dead on top and a few redfish.

    No flounder, grouper, snapper so I think the red tide contention is flawed.

    If in fact Red Snapper is collapsing the catalyst of repair is the elimination of commercial harvest 365 days a year not the unconstitutional forfeiture of rights by individuals catching fish for consumption.
    Mark O.
    Northwest Florida
    2015 Tidewater 280CC Twin 300's

  • Doc StressorDoc Stressor Homosassa, FLPosts: 2,767 Captain
    We had a huge red tide from Anclote Key thought the Big Bend in 2014 that killed everything between 40 and 150 ft. The bottom went anoxic and the rocks were bare of even sponges and sea whips. Now 2 years latter, the same area is loaded with 2 or 3 year old ARS that are between 14 and 16 inches. They started showing up as 12 inch fish last August. We are getting them in areas as shallow as 45 ft all the way down to Tarpon Springs. There haven't been significant red snapper in less than 70 ft for at least 50 years.

    It looks like a strong recovery to me when the fish are being found in new areas.
  • fortybreakfortybreak Posts: 7 Greenhorn
    Couldn't agree more Doc. They are thick from Horseshoe beach down to Clearwater in water as shallow as 45 feet. In my lifetime, I have never seen them in the quantities that are here now.
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