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squidvicioussquidvicious Posts: 537 Officer
I do not purchase many things on line.i like to see what i'm purchasing,guess that makes me an old school guy ?


I've had 2 bad experiences ,one a few years ago - I ordered a custom piece,from someone I believed to be a reputable guy - I found out otherwise.the problem was,this guy was located in homestead florida - I was located in new jersey,at the time.the amount of excuses and reasons for the delays were incredible - worse than what you hear from politicians.i solved the problem by calling in a favor - which lead to a visit to the person,from the police...a check arrived a few days later...

next bad experience:i ordered a few products,from what seemed like a reputable guy.order was paid via paypal,and that was that...few weeks later,products never arrived - reached out to the guy,was told products went out...few weeks later,still no products...this morning,after emailing,i called the guy - the excuses flew...simple explanation from me - "whatever you have to say means zero" - refund me now....I was offered a product for free - I refused ! explained "i do not want anything for free - refund the money and I go away"...I explain to this guy - it's a simple process - you advertise products,i purchase that product,you ship that product - everyone is happy...you didn't do that...

paypal reund !


bottom line:

be careful !
can we please stop using the word ISSUE ? it's a PROBLEM
:wink

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  • rock_fishrock_fish Posts: 12,224 AG
    Hard to read
    Proud supporter of the anti fishing, terroristic (lol what?) movement known as Greenpeace.
  • PolarPolar Posts: 22,492 AG
    rock_fish wrote: »
    Hard to read

    you should go back to school
  • rock_fishrock_fish Posts: 12,224 AG
    Seems like a lot of trouble
    Proud supporter of the anti fishing, terroristic (lol what?) movement known as Greenpeace.
  • There were pretty good public schools in New Jersey that I can remember.
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  • gandrfabgandrfab Posts: 21,646 AG
    There were pretty good public schools in New Jersey that I can remember.

    I didn't apply my self.
  • Baits OutBaits Out Posts: 12,328 AG
    I have had many challenging experiences buying and selling on eBay, Etsy, etc. over
    the years and glad that is all behind.

    Now almost exclusively buy through Amazon. They constantly amaze me with
    their prices and delivery service.

    A southeast Florida laid back beach bum and volunteer bikini assessor who lives on island time. 
  • rock_fishrock_fish Posts: 12,224 AG
    Baits Out wrote: »
    I have had many challenging experiences buying and selling on eBay, Etsy, etc. over
    the years and glad that is all behind.

    Now almost exclusively buy through Amazon. They constantly amaze me with
    their prices and delivery service.

    This
    Proud supporter of the anti fishing, terroristic (lol what?) movement known as Greenpeace.
  • Baits OutBaits Out Posts: 12,328 AG
    Biggest issue now is the spam phone calls I get.

    Never answer unless I recognize the number. When plugging in the number
    to Google, usually get that it is a scammer number.

    Also get lots junk mail from Viagra sellers.

    But know that is from going to the **** sites Rock_Fish sends me.

    :)

    A southeast Florida laid back beach bum and volunteer bikini assessor who lives on island time. 
  • D E E PD E E P Posts: 1,640 Moderator
    I had to use Amazon's A-Z claim on a vendor that kept changing the delivery date.

    Here is there last email to me;


    Dear,



    Thanks for supporting us! We are deeply sorry for the delay!
    We have told UPS to change the order's address to our warehouse. The moment we get the item, a full refund will be given to you immediately. Your patience and kind understanding will be highly appreciated! Could you please kindly help us to remove the A to Z claim? Thank you so much!

    Best wishes.
  • HeatwaveHeatwave Posts: 1,997 Captain
    Just a bad time in history. Every company is being forced to go completed automated to keep up with the large businesses, thus any real time customers service is gone. It is all about the guy at the top making more money. And yet google wants to "ENHANCE" your buying "EXPERIENCE" Honestly, things are a mess and the kids 15 - 25 are part of this deal. They are learning that it is OK to spend 1 hour on your phone to make a purchase of 200 dollars for a day at disney and ok to sleep at a strangers house via "AirBNB" after you get a ride there via UBER to save money. That a 1 week vacation is "life" at it's best...
    That taking 1.5 hours and jump thru loops just to fill out a job application and the software may just screw up throwing you back to the begining... That is just life today.

    They are being led down this path as if it is all just in a normal days work... Sad what things are coming too... All the licenses, certificates required, privacy invasion... If you have a google email, many things out there you dont know about, UNLESS, after you sign up you go and Change THE SETTINGS. It isn't defaulted well in your favor.

    On top of everything, all the big companies now know the best path, the best ploy/scam to get your money, to drive you nutz waiting "on hold" of a phone call so you just hang up. "got ya" Going thru it right now with Insurance after daughter had a wreck. Towed car to maaco, yet the insurance wanted us to OK them taking it back to their impound for appraisal. You have to know that is on purpose, once they have it, they can offer you what they want, not what is best... All the time on the phone they are so so nice... These people are paid to trick you or better known as "SCAM YOU", not to help you, as they state. This is what every big business is doing now. Also, you have to UNCHECK certain boxes on an online purchase to prevent them from sharing your info. It is made to look like something good for you, until you are flooded with info, calls, emails, etc... Explaining it all to my kid, she seems to think all of this is "just how it is"... Honestly trying to get her to pack up and leave this country, go to Australia... Anywhere good but here... We are doomed ! It is coming, get ready !
  • HeatwaveHeatwave Posts: 1,997 Captain
    D E E P wrote: »
    I had to use Amazon's A-Z claim on a vendor that kept changing the delivery date.

    Here is there last email to me;


    Dear,



    Thanks for supporting us! We are deeply sorry for the delay!
    We have told UPS to change the order's address to our warehouse. The moment we get the item, a full refund will be given to you immediately. Your patience and kind understanding will be highly appreciated! Could you please kindly help us to remove the A to Z claim? Thank you so much!

    Best wishes.

    Bet that is a special copy and paste reply... They probably send them all the time... Everything sucks now and it is all about making the consumer a 24/7 machine on their dime...
  • M.MagisM.Magis Posts: 204 Deckhand
    Heatwave wrote: »
    Just a bad time in history. Every company is being forced to go completed automated to keep up with the large businesses, thus any real time customers service is gone. It is all about the guy at the top making more money. And yet google wants to "ENHANCE" your buying "EXPERIENCE" Honestly, things are a mess and the kids 15 - 25 are part of this deal. They are learning that it is OK to spend 1 hour on your phone to make a purchase of 200 dollars for a day at disney and ok to sleep at a strangers house via "AirBNB" after you get a ride there via UBER to save money. That a 1 week vacation is "life" at it's best...
    That taking 1.5 hours and jump thru loops just to fill out a job application and the software may just screw up throwing you back to the begining... That is just life today.

    They are being led down this path as if it is all just in a normal days work... Sad what things are coming too... All the licenses, certificates required, privacy invasion... If you have a google email, many things out there you dont know about, UNLESS, after you sign up you go and Change THE SETTINGS. It isn't defaulted well in your favor.

    On top of everything, all the big companies now know the best path, the best ploy/scam to get your money, to drive you nutz waiting "on hold" of a phone call so you just hang up. "got ya" Going thru it right now with Insurance after daughter had a wreck. Towed car to maaco, yet the insurance wanted us to OK them taking it back to their impound for appraisal. You have to know that is on purpose, once they have it, they can offer you what they want, not what is best... All the time on the phone they are so so nice... These people are paid to trick you or better known as "SCAM YOU", not to help you, as they state. This is what every big business is doing now. Also, you have to UNCHECK certain boxes on an online purchase to prevent them from sharing your info. It is made to look like something good for you, until you are flooded with info, calls, emails, etc... Explaining it all to my kid, she seems to think all of this is "just how it is"... Honestly trying to get her to pack up and leave this country, go to Australia... Anywhere good but here... We are doomed ! It is coming, get ready !

    Good grief, it'll be okay.

    People said the same thing in the 70s. And the 80s, and the 90s.....
  • HeatwaveHeatwave Posts: 1,997 Captain
    M.Magis wrote: »
    Good grief, it'll be okay.

    People said the same thing in the 70s. And the 80s, and the 90s.....

    I actually thought all those dates were fine... Even early 2000s were ok.... The housing bubble was a scam, a well known one with a few people going to jail, 20% of working families taking a large hit, now we only have 20T in debt hanging over the country...

    I remember all the blue roofs in South Florida 2005... No one gave a crap about it because it never happened to them before... Anyone not ready at least a little will not post on here and state, ****, wish I would have been ready... It will just be, Where is the government ? Have to wonder how many guys said to their wives, dont worry, it will be Ok

    Could take the approach so many do and not care about the future, after all, I will be dead in 50 years so it won't be my problem, just one I didn't prepare my kids for... no worries...
  • Tarpon65Tarpon65 Posts: 7,247 Admiral
    Baits Out wrote: »

    Also get lots junk mail from Viagra sellers.
    :)


    It's hard to get rid of those!








    Get it? It's HARD ........

    :rotflmao
    Always Do Sober What You Said You'd Do Drunk. That Will Teach You To Keep Your Mouth Shut. - Ernest Hemingway
  • stc1993stc1993 Posts: 10,636 AG
    LOL.^

    I got ripped off on Ebay once for a motorcycle seat. A Corbin solo they run around $600. I think I sent him $200. It wasn't a Corbin just some fake leather he had stapled over the seat. I tried to get a refund from paypal & send the seat back. All I got was a big run around & no answers from paypal or ebay.
  • surfmansurfman Posts: 6,017 Admiral
    I posted an add for a hot tub on Craig's list and the scammers were on it like vultures. This guy was going to send a truck from Oklahoma to pick it up, all I had to do was set up a payment to paypal or something, I can't remember all the details but it was amazing.
    Tight Lines, Steve
    My posts are my opinion only.

    Be thankful we're not getting all the government we're paying for.  Will Rogers
  • squidvicioussquidvicious Posts: 537 Officer
    these weren't craigslist scams:

    both were people who have a "following" - both had legitimate secured web sites
    one was a custom aluminum fabrication company,the other was a lure manufacture

    it was pretty funny - the aluminum fabricator - the excuses and the stories were really pretty funny.believe it or not - the guy didn't know how to weld ! he used a few welding shops - he designed the product and had these welding shops put them together - hard to believe huh ? he's still in business,the list of people waiting for products was hard to believe - some people waiting a year,for a piece...the company is located in homestead ...

    the lure manufacture,he's located in space coast...my paypal was refunded
    can we please stop using the word ISSUE ? it's a PROBLEM
    :wink
  • jad1097jad1097 Posts: 9,611 Admiral
    Heatwave wrote: »
    Just a bad time in history. Every company is being forced to go completed automated to keep up with the large businesses, thus any real time customers service is gone. It is all about the guy at the top making more money. And yet google wants to "ENHANCE" your buying "EXPERIENCE" Honestly, things are a mess and the kids 15 - 25 are part of this deal. They are learning that it is OK to spend 1 hour on your phone to make a purchase of 200 dollars for a day at disney and ok to sleep at a strangers house via "AirBNB" after you get a ride there via UBER to save money. That a 1 week vacation is "life" at it's best...
    That taking 1.5 hours and jump thru loops just to fill out a job application and the software may just screw up throwing you back to the begining... That is just life today.

    They are being led down this path as if it is all just in a normal days work... Sad what things are coming too... All the licenses, certificates required, privacy invasion... If you have a google email, many things out there you dont know about, UNLESS, after you sign up you go and Change THE SETTINGS. It isn't defaulted well in your favor.

    On top of everything, all the big companies now know the best path, the best ploy/scam to get your money, to drive you nutz waiting "on hold" of a phone call so you just hang up. "got ya" Going thru it right now with Insurance after daughter had a wreck. Towed car to maaco, yet the insurance wanted us to OK them taking it back to their impound for appraisal. You have to know that is on purpose, once they have it, they can offer you what they want, not what is best... All the time on the phone they are so so nice... These people are paid to trick you or better known as "SCAM YOU", not to help you, as they state. This is what every big business is doing now. Also, you have to UNCHECK certain boxes on an online purchase to prevent them from sharing your info. It is made to look like something good for you, until you are flooded with info, calls, emails, etc... Explaining it all to my kid, she seems to think all of this is "just how it is"... Honestly trying to get her to pack up and leave this country, go to Australia... Anywhere good but here... We are doomed ! It is coming, get ready !

    My kids aren't learning what yours are. Life is good



    Licensing and certificating are good things IMHO.


    Yes, please move to Australia. Say hello to trouty while you are there



    Heatwave wrote: »
    I actually thought all those dates were fine... Even early 2000s were ok.... The housing bubble was a scam, a well known one with a few people going to jail, 20% of working families taking a large hit, now we only have 20T in debt hanging over the country...

    I remember all the blue roofs in South Florida 2005... No one gave a crap about it because it never happened to them before... Anyone not ready at least a little will not post on here and state, ****, wish I would have been ready... It will just be, Where is the government ? Have to wonder how many guys said to their wives, dont worry, it will be Ok

    Could take the approach so many do and not care about the future, after all, I will be dead in 50 years so it won't be my problem, just one I didn't prepare my kids for... no worries...


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  • Baits OutBaits Out Posts: 12,328 AG
    surfman wrote: »
    I posted an add for a hot tub on Craig's list and the scammers were on it like vultures. This guy was going to send a truck from Oklahoma to pick it up, all I had to do was set up a payment to paypal or something, I can't remember all the details but it was amazing.

    Have sold lots of stuff on Craigslist. All local of course. Told them to come on over to see and pick up, . . . and bring cash.

    EDIT:

    Plus, initially always use one of my junk email addresses to communicate before giving a phone number.

    And if really suspicious, call them via Skype so they can't see my actual phone number and thus look up the address.

    A southeast Florida laid back beach bum and volunteer bikini assessor who lives on island time. 
  • Baits OutBaits Out Posts: 12,328 AG
    Profile of a typical Internet crime victim: Traits scammers count on

    Back in 2009, a study found that people who received phishing emails fell for the scam about half of the time. But that doesn't mean it's easy to get an accurate reading on the overall number of Internet crime victims. Not everyone who is conned on the Internet reports it.

    The Internet Crime Complaint Center says it received its 3 millionth complaint in 2014. Complaints lodged with the organization number about 300,000 per year. Internet crime in general ratcheted up in the late 1990s and early 2000s, when Nigerian scams (also known as 419 scams) started landing in John Q. Public's inboxes. Although these early forays met with a lot of initial success, Internet users have grown savvier and don't fall as often for transparent confidence schemes like these.

    But there are always exceptions. And Brad Klontz, professor and co-founder of the Financial Psychology Institute, says that being a nice person can cost you.

    "Trusting, caring, generous individuals tend to be more vulnerable to scams. Individuals with limited experience are also more vulnerable. This could entail a general naiveté regarding the darker side of humanity, or a lack of technical competence," says Klontz, co-author of "Mind Over Money."

    Protect your identity with tools from myBankrate.

    Internet crime victim profile

    Basically, the more faith a person has in his fellow man, the more vulnerable he or she is to being scammed, so being somewhat cynical does have its rewards. But the naïve aren't the only ones successfully targeted by thieves. Klontz says changing technology often leaves some behind -- particularly the elderly, who are less likely to be up-to-date on changes in the cyber world. "As such, older adults can be more vulnerable to scams that involve newer technology," says Klontz.

    Others may also find themselves at risk. Klontz says categories of scam victims often include:

    Young people who often lack enough life experience to recognize when they are being asked to do something that puts them at risk.

    Individuals who have limited experience with crime and the criminal mindset; it may never cross their minds that requests (by criminals) are not sincere.

    Those suffering from recent stress.

    Klontz adds that everyday stress often makes individuals more vulnerable. Serious stress can hit us where we really hurt.

    "Higher levels of stress make it more challenging to evaluate the legitimacy of a request for action," he says. "I like to say that when we are emotionally charged, we are rationally challenged."

    Klontz says that as a result, we're more vulnerable when we're going through life-changing events, such as divorce or the death of a loved one. And since scammers also know that low points are an open door for them, they target these individuals.

    That said, Klontz reminds us that anyone can be a victim at any time. Being tech-savvy and careful isn't enough to scam-proof yourself. "We can all fall victim," he says, especially to scams that look like simple requests from companies with which we regularly do business (such as a recent con asking potential victims to update their email information).

    The best defense against victimhood is to be suspicious of everything and everyone. It doesn't mean you won't get scammed, but at least you'll be harder to victimize.

    By Carole Moore • Bankrate.com

    A southeast Florida laid back beach bum and volunteer bikini assessor who lives on island time. 
  • Fish HaidFish Haid Posts: 8,417 Admiral
    I have bought and sold hundreds of things on eBay and CL. Never had any problems - Zero! Sure, I get strange generic inquiries about items for sale on CL, but no way for me to get burned when I am the seller.
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  • surfmansurfman Posts: 6,017 Admiral
    I didn't fall for it but I did screw with him and he then calls me a scammer, it was pretty funny really, I reported it and sent all the info to CL's scam dept. and to paypal.
    Tight Lines, Steve
    My posts are my opinion only.

    Be thankful we're not getting all the government we're paying for.  Will Rogers
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