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Time for Anglers to Make a Stand Against 'Sea Lords'

Time for Anglers to Make a Stand Against 'Sea Lords'
Florida FWC under siege by snapper barons

A federal program that is allowing almost half the Gulf red snapper fishery to be held by a handful of private business has created a class of Sea Lords who are fighting to keep their personal windfall. As outlined in this ground-breaking article in the Mobile Times Register, "Kingpins of the Gulf make millions off red snapper harvest without ever going fishing," these Sea Lords have been granted private ownership rights to red snapper, for free, to use for their own personal profit.

The private recreational angling community has been left to fight over scraps and 10 day seasons.

The Sea Lords, and those who would like to become Sea Lords in the charter/for-hire industry, are now engaged in a campaign of intimidation at the Florida Fish and Wildlife Commission (FWC). The Gulf States have been unified in their rejection of private ownership programs to manage fisheries and know that they can do a better job using traditional methods. Last year, the states put forth their own state plan to manage red snapper, a plan that resulted in federal legislation to transfer management of the fishery to Gulf States.

With their riches threatened and desperate to hide the truth, the Sea Lords are fighting to flood the FWC with their one-sided story, coercing state officials to abandon the state management model.

The FWC meets tomorrow at 8:30 a.m. at the Florida Public Safety Institute Conference Center in Havana, Florida. It is critical for recreational anglers to express their support of state management and of the FWC before and during that meeting. The simple message is that we trust the state to manage these public marine resources better. We believe in the FWC and its far superior track record of management. We must let our state commissioners know that there is another side to this story. We must not let greed dictate how our fisheries are managed.

Please take a few minutes today to click the link below and send FWC Commissioners a message of support for state management and urge them to stay the course. The future of our fisheries is at stake - don't let our state managers be led astray or intimidated by a few red snapper barons.

Click the link below to log in and send your message:
https://www.votervoice.net/BroadcastLinks/0wp6HKczaTZCfr6aKo6V3A
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  • SlackerSlacker Posts: 1,642 Captain
    I sent this:


    I sent this to the commission:

    Management of the red snapper fishery in the Gulf of Mexico continues to be a major challenge with increasing dissatisfaction among anglers and serious calls for restructuring the Gulf red snapper management system. The GSRSMA is a great alternative to the current system. Of course it will have to overcome some hurdles, particularly in the beginning stages, but the system we currently have is failing. We should not continue down the same wrong course. You will never make all of the stakeholders happy on all the issues. You must do what is best for the fishery and the majority of the stakeholders in the long run. Please do not lose this opportunity to solve this problem.
    Jessica McCawley, Director of the Division of Marine Fisheries Management of the
    Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission was correct when she signed her final letter of support of the change on March 13, 2015.

    Charles T. Holt
  • jaukemanjaukeman Posts: 4 Greenhorn
    A press release from the Southeastern Fisheries Association

    Greetings:

    cca has their pr companies going full bore. Their goal is to have all finfish allocated to themselves. We haven't figured out how many fish they own in the Gulf, but in the South Atlantic, that is from Virginia to Key West, cca and anglers own 73% of the finfish and the consumers get 27%. Surely the FWC won't let them take more than they already have.

    As far as calling the commercial fishermen 'Sea Lords' they should really call them a very efficient, accountable sector of seafood producers who stay within their quota.
    "Never have so few produced so much red snapper for the masses on a sustainable basis."

    There needs to be changes in the red snapper program and we need to find a way to bring in more commercial fishermen, but we can do that if we ever get the time where we don't have to fight cca
    every day of the year. cca wants to be the Emperors of the fish world.

    Illigitmati non carborundum

    Bob

    Bob Jones, Executive Director
    www.sfaonline.org
  • ANUMBER1ANUMBER1 Posts: 11,693 AG
    Bob Jones is a very smart man.
    I am glad to only be a bird hunter with bird dogs...being a shooter or dog handler or whatever other niche exists to separate appears to generate far too much about which to worry.
  • CountryBumpkinCountryBumpkin Fla. Piney WoodsPosts: 1,778 Captain
    ANUMBER1 wrote: »
    Bob Jones is a very smart man.

    That would just be your observation, right?:blowkiss
  • drgibbydrgibby Posts: 1,538 Captain
    jaukeman wrote: »
    A press release from the Southeastern Fisheries Association

    Greetings:

    cca has their pr companies going full bore. Their goal is to have all finfish allocated to themselves. We haven't figured out how many fish they own in the Gulf, but in the South Atlantic, that is from Virginia to Key West, cca and anglers own 73% of the finfish and the consumers get 27%. Surely the FWC won't let them take more than they already have.

    As far as calling the commercial fishermen 'Sea Lords' they should really call them a very efficient, accountable sector of seafood producers who stay within their quota.
    "Never have so few produced so much red snapper for the masses on a sustainable basis."

    There needs to be changes in the red snapper program and we need to find a way to bring in more commercial fishermen, but we can do that if we ever get the time where we don't have to fight cca
    every day of the year. cca wants to be the Emperors of the fish world.

    Illigitmati non carborundum

    Bob

    Bob Jones, Executive Director
    www.sfaonline.org

    Thank you for reminding me why I support CCA. Gonna send them another check today.
  • surfmansurfman WC FLPosts: 5,982 Admiral
    When the Fed started this program I knew it would lead to full ownership of the resource by the commercial sector, trying to do the right thing now and allocate it properly will result in law suits being filed by the commercial sector claiming undue hardship. It was all planned out.

    The allocation was set up so skewed in favor of the commercial sector it is mind numbing. They gave the largest shares of the commercial allocation to the commercial fisherman that historically took the most fish but, when it came time to allocate between the commercial and the recreational it was a halved. That sounds fair right? Not!

    Now we get a 10 day season, why? Because supposedly we take the most fish, although they have no way to back that up, so if we take the most fish shouldn’t we get the most allocation? It should be closer to 95% recreational and 5% commercial. That would truly be a more fair and correct allocation.

    We are told we are unaccountable because the Fed can’t count our fish although they claim they count ever commercial fish, again supposedly. Who is counting these fish? I was at the dock not long ago when a commercial fisherman I know was unloading his catch. His fish (red snapper and grouper) went straight from his boat into boxes and onto a truck and down the road they went. I am sure each fish was properly documented. I am just not sure which one of the guys wearing the white boots holding the Natty Light was the Fed guy.
    Tight Lines, Steve
    My posts are my opinion only.

    Be thankful we're not getting all the government we're paying for.  Will Rogers
  • When I go out fishing do I abide by the rules and regulations or do I do what I think is right and take what I feel is my fair share?
    What do you do?
    THERE SHOULD BE NO COMMERCIAL FISHING ALLOWED FOR ANY SPECIES THAT IS CONSIDERED OVERFISHED.
  • ANUMBER1ANUMBER1 Posts: 11,693 AG
    surfman wrote: »
    When the Fed started this program I knew it would lead to full ownership of the resource by the commercial sector, trying to do the right thing now and allocate it properly will result in law suits being filed by the commercial sector claiming undue hardship. It was all planned out.

    The allocation was set up so skewed in favor of the commercial sector it is mind numbing. They gave the largest shares of the commercial allocation to the commercial fisherman that historically took the most fish but, when it came time to allocate between the commercial and the recreational it was a halved. That sounds fair right? Not!

    Now we get a 10 day season, why? Because supposedly we take the most fish, although they have no way to back that up, so if we take the most fish shouldn’t we get the most allocation? It should be closer to 95% recreational and 5% commercial. That would truly be a more fair and correct allocation.

    We are told we are unaccountable because the Fed can’t count our fish although they claim they count ever commercial fish, again supposedly. Who is counting these fish? I was at the dock not long ago when a commercial fisherman I know was unloading his catch. His fish (red snapper and grouper) went straight from his boat into boxes and onto a truck and down the road they went. I am sure each fish was properly documented. I am just not sure which one of the guys wearing the white boots holding the Natty Light was the Fed guy.
    Wow, talk about a spewing fountain of BS.
    You should be ashamed of yourself Mr. Furman.
    I am glad to only be a bird hunter with bird dogs...being a shooter or dog handler or whatever other niche exists to separate appears to generate far too much about which to worry.
  • JCSJCS Posts: 35 Deckhand
    I am not sure how "Mr Furman's" information would be considered BS, but everyone is entitled to their opinion. Bottom line is they have privatized a public resource. How is that any different than me going to a national park and saying "this land is mine?" The resource belongs to everyone, not a select few.
  • drgibbydrgibby Posts: 1,538 Captain
    I watched Big fish Texas last night. It was sure nice to see 11000 pounds of gulf red snapper being sold as dog food!
    Sure hope they give that guy some more quota...................
    What a JOKE.
  • surfmansurfman WC FLPosts: 5,982 Admiral
    ANUMBER1 wrote: »
    Wow, talk about a spewing fountain of BS.
    You should be ashamed of yourself Mr. Furman.

    How so?
    Tight Lines, Steve
    My posts are my opinion only.

    Be thankful we're not getting all the government we're paying for.  Will Rogers
  • ANUMBER1ANUMBER1 Posts: 11,693 AG
    drgibby wrote: »
    I watched Big fish Texas last night. It was sure nice to see 11000 pounds of gulf red snapper being sold as dog food!
    Sure hope they give that guy some more quota...................
    What a JOKE.
    They got $4.50/lb for dog food...

    Pricey dog food.
    I am glad to only be a bird hunter with bird dogs...being a shooter or dog handler or whatever other niche exists to separate appears to generate far too much about which to worry.
  • ANUMBER1ANUMBER1 Posts: 11,693 AG
    surfman wrote: »
    How so?
    Allocation has always been bout half.. No news there.

    White boots/natty light comment, lol..
    Did Ted Foreskin give you pointers on sensationalism?
    I am glad to only be a bird hunter with bird dogs...being a shooter or dog handler or whatever other niche exists to separate appears to generate far too much about which to worry.
  • reel stamasreel stamas Posts: 6,153 Admiral
    Love watching the Buggy Whip Salesman SQUIRM...
    There should be NO Commercial Fishing for any fish species considered 'Over-fished' , 'Undergoing Overfishing' or Subject to Recreational Seasons, Limits, or Closures... Game Fish Status IS the Answer !!!
  • surfmansurfman WC FLPosts: 5,982 Admiral
    I'm pretty sure they were natty lights.
    Tight Lines, Steve
    My posts are my opinion only.

    Be thankful we're not getting all the government we're paying for.  Will Rogers
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