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300 Scientists Blast NOAA For Fudging ‘Climate Change’ Data…

Kacie Burnett Friday January 29 2016

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The Democratic party and leftist media like to mix science and feelings almost as much as Cosby likes to mix roofies and women (ALLEGEDLY). Yet not partaking in the climate change club will paint you as someone who just can’t science… Unless you science for a living. Like these 300 scientists who are imploring lawmakers to investigate NOAA.

Americans are tired of research conducted behind closed doors where they only see cherry-picked conclusions, not the facts. This letter shows that hundreds of respected scientists and experts agree that NOAA’s efforts to alter historical temperature data deserve serious scrutiny.

NOAA scientists upwardly adjusted temperature readings taken from the engine intakes of ships to eliminate the “hiatus” in global warming from the temperature record.

If we subtract the [old] data from the [new] data… we can see that that is exactly what NOAA did…

It’s the same story all over again; the adjustments go towards cooling the past and thus increasing the slope of temperature rise. Their intent and methods are so obvious they’re laughable.


What does this tell us? A lot actually.

NOAA is responsible for two things: 1) getting money to throw their hands up in the air and cry about unrealistic environmental “dangers”. 2) Monitoring the conditions of the ocean and atmosphere. But mostly number one.

Real scientists care about preserving the integrity of accurate research. So when NOAA conveniently forgot to include a 15 year pause in “global warming” in their recent data, hundreds of experts took issue with it. Because they respect science. As real scientists do.

YeahScience

Problem is there’s an agenda at play, so NOAA isn’t letting crazy things like “facts” or “data” get in the way of SCIENCE that political agenda. Which is exactly the problem with the “man made climate change global warming” issue. Science doesn’t matter, an agenda does (read MYTH BUSTED: Climate Change ‘Consensus of Scientists’ is Idiotic). An agenda that conveniently comes with higher taxes, more regulations and bigger government.

Follow the money, folks. It’ll lead you into a crap storm of lies.

http://louderwithcrowder.com/300-scientists-blast-noaa-fudging-climate-change-data/#.Vqy8WY-cGM9
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  • WaterEngineerWaterEngineer Posts: 24,412 AG
    "Surprise."

    (I don't think much of the source, but it has been reported all over the place, during the last 24 hours so I will go with it.)

    No surprise. Known fact.
  • FibberMckeeFibberMckee Posts: 12,826 AG
    Whatever you say Gomer

    Follow louderwithcrowder, folks "It’ll lead you into a crap storm of lies."
  • SpineymanSpineyman Posts: 8,377 Admiral
    Typical Fibber, attack the messenger. Well here is another so please attack them too.


    Liberty Unyielding


    300 scientists want NOAA to stop hiding its global warming data

    By LU Staff  January 30, 2016


    300 scientists want NOAA to stop hiding its global warming data
    Credit: Reuters/NASA/GOES Project/handout

    Hundreds of scientists and other scholars sent a letter to lawmakers Thursday warning National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) that colleagues may have violated federal laws when they published a 2015 study purporting to eliminate the 15-year “hiatus” in global warming from the temperature record.

    “We, the undersigned, scientists, engineers, economists and others, who have looked carefully into the effects of carbon dioxide released by human activities, wish to record our support for the efforts of the Committee on Science, Space and Technology to ensure that federal agencies complied with federal guidelines that implemented the Data Quality Act,” some 300 scientists, engineers and other experts wrote to Chairman of the House Science Committee, Texas Republican Rep. Lamar Smith.

    “In our opinion… NOAA has failed to observe the OMB [Office of Management and Budget] (and its own) guidelines, established in relation to the Data Quality Act.”

    The Data Quality Act requires federal agencies like NOAA to “ensure and maximize the quality, objectivity, utility, and integrity of information, including statistical information.”

    Smith launched an investigation into NOAA’s study last summer over concerns it was pushed out to bolster President Barack Obama’s political agenda. Democrats and the media have largely opposed the probe into NOAA scientists and political appointees, but Smith is determined to continue investigating. NOAA officials surrendered emails to congressional investigators in December.

    “It is this Committee’s oversight role to ensure that federal science agencies are transparent and accountable to the taxpayers who fund their research,” Smith told The Daily Caller News Foundation. “Americans are tired of research conducted behind closed doors where they only see cherry-picked conclusions, not the facts. This letter shows that hundreds of respected scientists and experts agree that NOAA’s efforts to alter historical temperature data deserve serious scrutiny.”

    Of the 300 letter signers, 150 had doctorates in a related field. Signers also included: 25 climate or atmospheric scientists, 23 geologists, 18 meteorologists, 51 engineers, 74 physicists, 20 chemists and 12 economists. Additionally, one signer was a Nobel Prize-winning physicist and two were astronauts.

    NOAA scientists upwardly adjusted temperature readings taken from the engine intakes of ships to eliminate the “hiatus” in global warming from the temperature record.

    The NOAA study in dispute claims the scientists found a solution to the 15-year “pause” in global warming. They “adjusted” the hiatus in warming the temperature record from 1998 to 2012, the “new analysis exhibits more than twice as much warming as the old analysis at the global scale.”

    “As has been acknowledged by numerous scientists, the engine intake data are clearly contaminated by heat conduction from the structure, and as such, never intended for scientific use,” wrote climate scientists Dr. Patrick J. Michaels and Dr. Richard S. Lindzen of the libertarian Cato Institute on the in the science blog Watts Up With That. “Adjusting good data upward to match bad data seems questionable.”

    “If we subtract the [old] data from the [new] data… we can see that that is exactly what NOAA did,” climate expert Bob Tisdale and meteorologist Anthony Watts wrote on the same science blog. “It’s the same story all over again; the adjustments go towards cooling the past and thus increasing the slope of temperature rise. Their intent and methods are so obvious they’re laughable.”


    This report, by Andrew Follett, was cross-posted by arrangement with the Daily Caller News Foundation.
    http://libertyunyielding.com/2016/01/30/300-scientists-want-noaa-to-stop-hiding-its-global-warming-data/
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    II Chronicles 7:14
    if My people who are called by My name will humble themselves, and pray and seek My face, and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin and heal their land.



  • fins4mefins4me Posts: 14,483 AG
    FibberMckee is devout toward his religion.
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  • SpineymanSpineyman Posts: 8,377 Admiral
    fins4me wrote: »
    FibberMckee is devout toward his religion.

    Yes he is, he bows at the alter of big government!
    Kayak Rookie...and loving it.
    Fishing beautiful Destin / Ft Walton Beach area!

    II Chronicles 7:14
    if My people who are called by My name will humble themselves, and pray and seek My face, and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin and heal their land.



  • phlatsphilphlatsphil Posts: 14,632 AG
    So few people understand computer simulations. WE's comments come as a surprise. Sometimes I wonder.
  • FibberMckeeFibberMckee Posts: 12,826 AG
    It's awfully EZ to attack fringe messengers like louderwithcrowder & libertyunyielding. Just look at the tripe they publish.

    There was no "15-year “pause” in global warming" despite what anti-science Tea Party propagandists preach.

    The evidence is found worldwide, the conclusions are published by many nations.

    https://www.google.com/#q=there+has+not+been+a+15+year+hiatus+in+global+warming
  • ScoutboatScoutboat Posts: 2,575 Captain
    Can't we put this misguided baloney to rest?
    The earth is what? Two billion years old and has been going through climate changes since then.
    Our record keeping goes back a couple of hundred years.
    We (humans) are not the center of the universe.
    Jim
  • SpineymanSpineyman Posts: 8,377 Admiral
    It's awfully EZ to attack fringe messengers like louderwithcrowder & libertyunyielding. Just look at the tripe they publish.

    There was no "15-year “pause” in global warming" despite what anti-science Tea Party propagandists preach.

    The evidence is found worldwide, the conclusions are published by many nations.

    https://www.google.com/#q=there+has+not+been+a+15+year+hiatus+in+global+warming
    Kayak Rookie...and loving it.
    Fishing beautiful Destin / Ft Walton Beach area!

    II Chronicles 7:14
    if My people who are called by My name will humble themselves, and pray and seek My face, and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin and heal their land.



  • phlatsphilphlatsphil Posts: 14,632 AG
    Scoutboat wrote: »
    Can't we put this misguided baloney to rest?
    The earth is what? Two billion years old and has been going through climate changes since then.
    Our record keeping goes back a couple of hundred years.
    We (humans) are not the center of the universe.
    Jim

    We polluted the crap out of Los Angeles, recognized the error of our ways, made changes, and the air quality improved.

    We've polluted the crap out of rivers, recognized the error of our ways, made changes, and the water quality improved.

    We are having an impact on climate, whether you believe it or not. We have affected THE RATE of its change. Simple minds just don't understand rate of change. We can make changes to our evil ways, and in 100 years, get the rate of change back to normal. Yes, it's going to change with or without us, there's no reason for us to accelerate the change.
  • FibberMckeeFibberMckee Posts: 12,826 AG
    Spiney's OP claims 1998-2012
    Spineyman wrote: »

    My link provides many reputable websites that show the claim is FOS.

    At what point in man's history did Climate Change seriously impact his future?

    Earth is warming.
  • SpineymanSpineyman Posts: 8,377 Admiral
    Weather is cyclical. If you don't like it now, wait a little while and it will change again. Life is too short to create problems that do not exist.
    Kayak Rookie...and loving it.
    Fishing beautiful Destin / Ft Walton Beach area!

    II Chronicles 7:14
    if My people who are called by My name will humble themselves, and pray and seek My face, and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin and heal their land.



  • heathenheathen Posts: 7,080 Officer
    spiney will pray on it and let us know how his ghost friends respond.
  • SpineymanSpineyman Posts: 8,377 Admiral
    heathen wrote: »
    spiney will pray on it and let us know how his ghost friends respond.

    Actually you would have to be a blind man to not see how He has already and still is responding. The Natural disasters are ramping up at alarming pace, and you see my friends that is precisely what happens when a Nation turns their back collectively on our God.
    Kayak Rookie...and loving it.
    Fishing beautiful Destin / Ft Walton Beach area!

    II Chronicles 7:14
    if My people who are called by My name will humble themselves, and pray and seek My face, and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin and heal their land.



  • heathenheathen Posts: 7,080 Officer
    Spineyman wrote: »
    Actually you would have to be a blind man to not see how He has already and still is responding. The Natural disasters are ramping up at alarming pace, and you see my friends that is precisely what happens when a Nation turns their back collectively on our God.

    you keep making claims but have no evidence to back them up. it's both amusing and sad that someone could be so deluded as to believe in ghosts, hobgoblins, demons and other claptrap like you and your ilk do.

    reality must be really scary to you. :grin
  • Baits OutBaits Out Posts: 12,328 AG
    Again, nothing to gain by harassing them.

    Millions of people need a coping crutch that provides easy answers, no matter
    how comical and ridiculous to the rest of us.

    :thumbsup

    A southeast Florida laid back beach bum and volunteer bikini assessor who lives on island time. 
  • FibberMckeeFibberMckee Posts: 12,826 AG
    No, it isn't.
    Spineyman wrote: »
    Weather is cyclical.

    "Life is too short to" deny history.
  • dave44dave44 Posts: 19,294 AG
    No, it isn't.



    "Life is too short to" deny history.

    Weather isn't cyclical? Is that REALLY your scientific opinion?
  • FishaHallicFishaHallic Posts: 660 Officer
    Spineyman wrote: »
    Actually you would have to be a blind man to not see how He has already and still is responding. The Natural disasters are ramping up at alarming pace, and you see my friends that is precisely what happens when a Nation turns their back collectively on our God.

    The sky is falling, the sky is falling!!!!:idiot
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