Let's not get crazy. But the fact that he will be the starting QB for the nations 3rd ranked team 2 weeks after this happened gives this story legs.
Don't shoot the messenger.
Your stories with legs are a joke.
Columbus PD could have done the same thing Tallahassee PD or Gainesville PD does and actually let him go.
How many games and scholarships were lost when the kids walked out of the bowling alley again? What about "don't say nuttin"?
How about for shooting up an apartment complex doing $4,000 worth of damage with bb guns?
Any charges filed? Any time served? Any fines? Suspensions? Scholarships revoked?
No?
Didn't think so.
"It happens everywhere"
I have never eaten a booger in my entire life. -Jim Harbaugh
One was also suspended for two weeks, had their drivers license suspended, fined $400, sentenced 3 day class, had his scholarship revoked and undoubtedly faced unpublished team consequences after taking full and complete responsibility for his actions (he was helping a highly intoxicated friend home who showed up at his apartment) by pleading guilty.
The other destroyed evidence and refused to talk.
You are right, one person owned it and the other ran from it.
Do you have a link to the friend story?
In hindsight... letting his bro crash on the couch or dropping a 10 on an über would have been a better call.
I try to be careful with my opinion on this. I have had a few drinks and drove home once or twice.
I just like poking our newly most sensitive member.
It's in the court appearance video on the previous page.
Barrett's attorney, Phil Templeton, told Judge H. William Pollitt that Barrett was home with friends on the night before Halloween. An unnamed friend of Barrett's showed up at his home "heavily intoxicated" and Barrett made the decision to drive that friend home.
Yes UF has had players break the law, just like "every other school" has.
The difference here is you like to think tOSU is different.
Keep your head in the sand and enjoy the cool weather.
It's in the court appearance video on the previous page.
Barrett's attorney, Phil Templeton, told Judge H. William Pollitt that Barrett was home with friends on the night before Halloween. An unnamed friend of Barrett's showed up at his home "heavily intoxicated" and Barrett made the decision to drive that friend home.
It's on the front page of ever CFB news outlet in the nation.
The two links you provided it was on the front page of one (about half way down the foxsports link) with a head line "with suspension over JT likely to start". Well, no kidding, the suspension is over.
Failing to see your point.
It really isn't news. Kid got caught doing what millions of people do every day. He wasn't out on Halloween partying like the rest of campus, he was at home. He wasn't driving recklessly. He was trying to be responsible but got caught up in a bad law. He then OWNED his mistake admitting guilt and accepting punishment.
You could only dream that "happens everywhere".
I have never eaten a booger in my entire life. -Jim Harbaugh
Barrett was home Oct. 31 relaxing with friends when a "heavily intoxicated" friend stopped by and Barrett decided to drive him home, said Barrett's attorney, Phil Templeton. Barrett's sense of responsibility as an Ohio State captain played a part in that decision, Templeton said.
"He now recognizes, of course, that was a poor decision given what has happened to him," Templeton said. He wouldn't identify the friend.
Templeton also said that Barrett was home that night, Halloween, instead of out "reveling" like so many other people his age.
"He wasn't out doing the things that so many other college kids around the country were doing," Templeton said.
The lawyer noted to the judge that Barrett's blood-alcohol level of 0.099 was only slightly above the legal limit of 0.08 for adults, though he acknowledged Barrett was underage. In Ohio, the limit is 0.02 for people under 21.
Unlike other people charged with drunken driving, Barrett had the added punishment of being publicly ridiculed with his picture everywhere on TV after his arrest. "He's paying the ultimate price," Templeton said.
Judges in Ohio have the option to sentence first-time drunken driving defendants to a three-day residential driving-intervention program instead of jail time. Private counseling services typically offer the program in hotels at costs ranging from $300 to $500.
You are proving my point with all of your "was he, yada yada yada".
Had it been you or me or anyone else, we would have spent the night in jail and had much stiffer penalties.
Regarding the "story having legs"...
I was just pointing out it is being discussed nationally. Which it is.
Ol Urb might have a heart attack after the impending loss.
You are proving my point with all of your "was he, yada yada yada".
Had it been you or me or anyone else, we would have spent the night in jail and had much stiffer penalties.
No, actually what he received is pretty standard for first time offenders. He got not special treatment. The only thing that could be twisted as special treatment would be the fact he was not arrested and went to jail, but "calling someone" to come pick you up is fairly standard procedure for check points in Ohio. His court punishment (3 day drunk school $400 fine and license suspension) is standard too.
Regarding the "story having legs"...
I was just pointing out it is being discussed nationally. Which it is.
Ol Urb might have a heart attack after the impending loss.
-Urb fan/realist.
Discussed nationally? Why wouldn't it be? Anyone saying anything important? The kid got raked over the coals when you factor in the team and school punishment.
Perhaps Urb will have a stroke, who knows? I figured OSU sold their soul to hire him anyways, so I'm sure he will be skipping town soon enough.
Not surprised.
I have never eaten a booger in my entire life. -Jim Harbaugh
****.
Catch a DUI in FL, you pay well over 10k when all is said and done. And at least 24hrs in jail.
Insurance, lawyer fees, court fees, ect.
In OH you are "raked over the coals" for a tune of 500$ and a ride home from a friend.
:awesome
He wasn't in Florida.
He was sentenced to 72 hours in Franklin County jail, which will be suspended if he submits to and completes a 72 hour drunk school class which he must pay for out of his own pocket. Cost is around $500 and the class is held in a hotel which he will be bound to until the 72 hours passed. Check in Friday check out Sunday.
He was granted limited driving privileges, which likely includes a Breathalyzer on his vehicle, which he must pay to install and the monthly service agreement - all said and done around $1,000. If no Breathalyzer system was installed he undoubtedly will have a yellow license plate - party plates - which of course he will have to pay for, not sure on cost.
He lost his summer scholarship, which for out of state residents could amount to well over $10,000 last time I checked tuition at OSU, although it is highly likely he will get this reinstated.
He limited his costs (lawyer fee's) significantly by immediately taking responsibility and pleading guilty. He could have plead not guilty and drug this case out for months on end racking up a significant legal bill. I suspect Meyer or someone else (family member) told him this needs to go away ASAP.
He will always have a DUI conviction on his record in the state of Ohio. DUI is worse then some felonies in the state in the fact that it is impossible to have it expunged from ones record. Also if he gets another one with in 20 years he will be classified as a second offender, which carries much stiffer penalties.
The two biggest surprises for me was there was no suspended jail time with a probation requirement. To my knowledge most first offense convictions come with an automatic 6 month jail sentence that is immediately suspended as long as you complete 6 months of probation / community service. I also thought that a conviction mandated a 1 year license suspension, but perhaps that is for a refusal to submit to a sobriety test.
In the end he significantly reduced his expenses by pleading guilty. Legal fees and court costs are typically the bulk expenses with these type of cases.
I have never eaten a booger in my entire life. -Jim Harbaugh
Add to that he was underage... Look up underage DUI penalties nationwide.
Here is Florida penalties:
Zero Tolerance for Drivers under 21
Florida has a Zero Tolerance law for drivers under 21. This means that any driver under 21 that is stopped by law enforcement and has a blood alcohol level of .02 or higher will automatically have their Florida drivers license suspended for 6 months. The .02 limit really means that you cannot have a single drink and drive. And that's the idea.
For drivers over 21 the legal limit in Florida is .08. Regardless of your age be aware that drinking and driving is considered a serious offense. Below we have summarized the penalties in the state of Florida for a first offense DUI, but the average cost including legal defense, fines, and auto insurance increases is $8000.
Florida Penalties for DUI First Conviction
Fine - $250 to $500
Community Service - 50 Hours
Probation - Not more than 1 Year
Imprisonment - Not more than 6 Months
Imprisonment with BAL of .08 or higher with a minor in the vehicle, not more than 9 months
License Revocation - Minimum of 180 days
DUI School - 12 Hours
Conditions for Release of Persons Arrested for DUI-s. 316.193 (9), F.S.
•The person is no longer under the influence and;
• The person's normal faculties are no longer impaired
• The person's blood/breath alcohol level is lower than 0.05; or
•Eight hours have elapsed from the time the person was arrested.
Conditions for Release of Persons Arrested for DUI-s. 316.193 (9), F.S.
•The person is no longer under the influence and;
• The person's normal faculties are no longer impaired
• The person's blood/breath alcohol level is lower than 0.05; or
•Eight hours have elapsed from the time the person was arrested.
To me this is much to do about nothing. Crap, I was going through drive through liquors at 16 getting setups. I guess it was the **** stache and sideburns that got me a pass. :grin
This is for people over 21 but you have been talking out of your *** this entire thread so carry on.
really.
OUT.
You should really try to educate yourself on the topic before replying.
Penalties for Under 21 DUI
In an effort to reduce underage drunk driving, the state sentences violators to harsh penalties, the extent of which are based upon the circumstances of the alleged incident. If you are convicted of under 21 DUI, your sentencing could include the following penalties:
•Under 21 Driver with BAC of .02% or above: If a first offense, the driver's license will be suspended for 6 months. If the driver has previously been convicted of DUI, their license will be suspended for 1 year.
•Under 21 Driver who refuses breath or blood test: For refusal to submit to a chemical BAC test the driver's license will be suspended for 1 year. If a second or subsequent refusal, the driver will lose their license for 18 months.
•Under 18 Driver with a BAC of .02% or above: Minors charged with DUI will face a 6 month license suspension for a first offense as well as mandatory evaluation at an addictions facility or completion of an alcohol education program.
•Under 21 Driver with BAC of .08% or above: If an underage driver is convicted of DUI with a BAC of .08% or above they face the same penalties as a driver aged 21 or older. The penalties for a first DUI offense in Florida include fines of $500 to $1,000, driver's license suspension of 180 days to 1 year, vehicle impoundment, incarceration in county jail up to 6 months, and 50 hours of community service.
You expect anyone to believe a kid in Florida doesn't get to call home and have his parents come get him? Seriously?
Just face the facts - Columbus PD handled this like they should have by NOT turning a blind eye. The court system handled it as they should have with out giving any special treatment. The team handled this the way they should have by giving a two week suspension.
One thing I've noticed about you is you only like to criticize and rarely if ever offer any positive thoughts to the way a police department or team handle their issues.
I have never eaten a booger in my entire life. -Jim Harbaugh
My best friend got a DUI when he was 19. Ironically it was on UCF's campus.
He was detained until his BAL was below .02, the leagal limit for a minor.
They had him blow every hour. Once he was under the leagal limit for a minor he had to be BAILED out. What was JT's bail amount? I must have missed it.
My best friend got a DUI when he was 19. Ironically it was on UCF's campus.
He was detained until his BAL was below .02, the leagal limit for a minor.
They had him blow every hour. Once he was under the leagal limit for a minor he had to be BAILED out. What was JT's bail amount? I must have missed it.
My bro's court costs alone were in the thousands.
Cool story.
You still have not provided anything of substance to support your claim one must stay in jail for 24 hours and spend "well over $10,000" for a first offense DUI. It's ok though, I can tell you are not well versed in Florida's DUI laws so I can say with some certainty that you have "no clue" about Ohio's.
Have a good evening.
I have never eaten a booger in my entire life. -Jim Harbaugh
Summary of thread:
When laws are broken by athletes in Ohio, no favoritism, strict penalties, everything by the book
When laws are broken by athletes in FL, nothing ever happens, everything swept under the rug, special treatment
Got it:beer:beer
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Your stories with legs are a joke.
Columbus PD could have done the same thing Tallahassee PD or Gainesville PD does and actually let him go.
How many games and scholarships were lost when the kids walked out of the bowling alley again? What about "don't say nuttin"?
How about for shooting up an apartment complex doing $4,000 worth of damage with bb guns?
Any charges filed? Any time served? Any fines? Suspensions? Scholarships revoked?
No?
Didn't think so.
"It happens everywhere"
I have never eaten a booger in my entire life. -Jim Harbaugh
Do you have a link to the friend story?
In hindsight... letting his bro crash on the couch or dropping a 10 on an über would have been a better call.
I try to be careful with my opinion on this. I have had a few drinks and drove home once or twice.
I just like poking our newly most sensitive member.
:rotflmao
"don't shoot the messenger."
http://espn.go.com/college-football/
http://www.foxsports.com/college-football
It's on the front page of ever CFB news outlet in the nation.
It's in the court appearance video on the previous page.
Barrett's attorney, Phil Templeton, told Judge H. William Pollitt that Barrett was home with friends on the night before Halloween. An unnamed friend of Barrett's showed up at his home "heavily intoxicated" and Barrett made the decision to drive that friend home.
http://www.cleveland.com/osu/index.ssf/2015/11/ohio_state_quarterback_jt_barr_4.html
Watch the video, his attorney does a good job playing the innocent kid who was just trying to help a friend out.
I have never eaten a booger in my entire life. -Jim Harbaugh
Yes UF has had players break the law, just like "every other school" has.
The difference here is you like to think tOSU is different.
Keep your head in the sand and enjoy the cool weather.
Out.
:cheers
The two links you provided it was on the front page of one (about half way down the foxsports link) with a head line "with suspension over JT likely to start". Well, no kidding, the suspension is over.
Failing to see your point.
It really isn't news. Kid got caught doing what millions of people do every day. He wasn't out on Halloween partying like the rest of campus, he was at home. He wasn't driving recklessly. He was trying to be responsible but got caught up in a bad law. He then OWNED his mistake admitting guilt and accepting punishment.
You could only dream that "happens everywhere".
I have never eaten a booger in my entire life. -Jim Harbaugh
"He now recognizes, of course, that was a poor decision given what has happened to him," Templeton said. He wouldn't identify the friend.
Templeton also said that Barrett was home that night, Halloween, instead of out "reveling" like so many other people his age.
"He wasn't out doing the things that so many other college kids around the country were doing," Templeton said.
The lawyer noted to the judge that Barrett's blood-alcohol level of 0.099 was only slightly above the legal limit of 0.08 for adults, though he acknowledged Barrett was underage. In Ohio, the limit is 0.02 for people under 21.
Unlike other people charged with drunken driving, Barrett had the added punishment of being publicly ridiculed with his picture everywhere on TV after his arrest. "He's paying the ultimate price," Templeton said.
Judges in Ohio have the option to sentence first-time drunken driving defendants to a three-day residential driving-intervention program instead of jail time. Private counseling services typically offer the program in hotels at costs ranging from $300 to $500.
http://www.usnews.com/news/sports/articles/2015/11/10/ohio-state-qb-barrett-has-court-date-on-driving-citation
I have never eaten a booger in my entire life. -Jim Harbaugh
You are proving my point with all of your "was he, yada yada yada".
Had it been you or me or anyone else, we would have spent the night in jail and had much stiffer penalties.
Regarding the "story having legs"...
I was just pointing out it is being discussed nationally. Which it is.
Ol Urb might have a heart attack after the impending loss.
-Urb fan/realist.
No, actually what he received is pretty standard for first time offenders. He got not special treatment. The only thing that could be twisted as special treatment would be the fact he was not arrested and went to jail, but "calling someone" to come pick you up is fairly standard procedure for check points in Ohio. His court punishment (3 day drunk school $400 fine and license suspension) is standard too.
Discussed nationally? Why wouldn't it be? Anyone saying anything important? The kid got raked over the coals when you factor in the team and school punishment.
Perhaps Urb will have a stroke, who knows? I figured OSU sold their soul to hire him anyways, so I'm sure he will be skipping town soon enough.
Not surprised.
I have never eaten a booger in my entire life. -Jim Harbaugh
Catch a DUI in FL, you pay well over 10k when all is said and done. And at least 24hrs in jail.
Insurance, lawyer fees, court fees, ect.
In OH you are "raked over the coals" for a tune of 500$ and a ride home from a friend.
:awesome
He wasn't in Florida.
He was sentenced to 72 hours in Franklin County jail, which will be suspended if he submits to and completes a 72 hour drunk school class which he must pay for out of his own pocket. Cost is around $500 and the class is held in a hotel which he will be bound to until the 72 hours passed. Check in Friday check out Sunday.
He was granted limited driving privileges, which likely includes a Breathalyzer on his vehicle, which he must pay to install and the monthly service agreement - all said and done around $1,000. If no Breathalyzer system was installed he undoubtedly will have a yellow license plate - party plates - which of course he will have to pay for, not sure on cost.
He lost his summer scholarship, which for out of state residents could amount to well over $10,000 last time I checked tuition at OSU, although it is highly likely he will get this reinstated.
He limited his costs (lawyer fee's) significantly by immediately taking responsibility and pleading guilty. He could have plead not guilty and drug this case out for months on end racking up a significant legal bill. I suspect Meyer or someone else (family member) told him this needs to go away ASAP.
He will always have a DUI conviction on his record in the state of Ohio. DUI is worse then some felonies in the state in the fact that it is impossible to have it expunged from ones record. Also if he gets another one with in 20 years he will be classified as a second offender, which carries much stiffer penalties.
The two biggest surprises for me was there was no suspended jail time with a probation requirement. To my knowledge most first offense convictions come with an automatic 6 month jail sentence that is immediately suspended as long as you complete 6 months of probation / community service. I also thought that a conviction mandated a 1 year license suspension, but perhaps that is for a refusal to submit to a sobriety test.
In the end he significantly reduced his expenses by pleading guilty. Legal fees and court costs are typically the bulk expenses with these type of cases.
I have never eaten a booger in my entire life. -Jim Harbaugh
Here is Florida penalties:
Zero Tolerance for Drivers under 21
Florida has a Zero Tolerance law for drivers under 21. This means that any driver under 21 that is stopped by law enforcement and has a blood alcohol level of .02 or higher will automatically have their Florida drivers license suspended for 6 months. The .02 limit really means that you cannot have a single drink and drive. And that's the idea.
For drivers over 21 the legal limit in Florida is .08. Regardless of your age be aware that drinking and driving is considered a serious offense. Below we have summarized the penalties in the state of Florida for a first offense DUI, but the average cost including legal defense, fines, and auto insurance increases is $8000.
Florida Penalties for DUI First Conviction
Fine - $250 to $500
Community Service - 50 Hours
Probation - Not more than 1 Year
Imprisonment - Not more than 6 Months
Imprisonment with BAL of .08 or higher with a minor in the vehicle, not more than 9 months
License Revocation - Minimum of 180 days
DUI School - 12 Hours
http://www.dmvflorida.org/florida-dui.shtml
Seems he received worse then that?
I have never eaten a booger in my entire life. -Jim Harbaugh
Conditions for Release of Persons Arrested for DUI-s. 316.193 (9), F.S.
•The person is no longer under the influence and;
• The person's normal faculties are no longer impaired
• The person's blood/breath alcohol level is lower than 0.05; or
•Eight hours have elapsed from the time the person was arrested.
http://www.flhsmv.gov/ddl/duilaws.html
You don't have any clue what you are talking about.
I have never eaten a booger in my entire life. -Jim Harbaugh
This is for people over 21 but you have been talking out of your *** this entire thread so carry on.
really.
OUT.
You should really try to educate yourself on the topic before replying.
Penalties for Under 21 DUI
In an effort to reduce underage drunk driving, the state sentences violators to harsh penalties, the extent of which are based upon the circumstances of the alleged incident. If you are convicted of under 21 DUI, your sentencing could include the following penalties:
•Under 21 Driver with BAC of .02% or above: If a first offense, the driver's license will be suspended for 6 months. If the driver has previously been convicted of DUI, their license will be suspended for 1 year.
•Under 21 Driver who refuses breath or blood test: For refusal to submit to a chemical BAC test the driver's license will be suspended for 1 year. If a second or subsequent refusal, the driver will lose their license for 18 months.
•Under 18 Driver with a BAC of .02% or above: Minors charged with DUI will face a 6 month license suspension for a first offense as well as mandatory evaluation at an addictions facility or completion of an alcohol education program.
•Under 21 Driver with BAC of .08% or above: If an underage driver is convicted of DUI with a BAC of .08% or above they face the same penalties as a driver aged 21 or older. The penalties for a first DUI offense in Florida include fines of $500 to $1,000, driver's license suspension of 180 days to 1 year, vehicle impoundment, incarceration in county jail up to 6 months, and 50 hours of community service.
http://www.dunhampa.com/Criminal-Defense/DUI/Under-21-DUI.aspx
I have never eaten a booger in my entire life. -Jim Harbaugh
You expect anyone to believe a kid in Florida doesn't get to call home and have his parents come get him? Seriously?
Just face the facts - Columbus PD handled this like they should have by NOT turning a blind eye. The court system handled it as they should have with out giving any special treatment. The team handled this the way they should have by giving a two week suspension.
One thing I've noticed about you is you only like to criticize and rarely if ever offer any positive thoughts to the way a police department or team handle their issues.
I have never eaten a booger in my entire life. -Jim Harbaugh
He was detained until his BAL was below .02, the leagal limit for a minor.
They had him blow every hour. Once he was under the leagal limit for a minor he had to be BAILED out. What was JT's bail amount? I must have missed it.
My bro's court costs alone were in the thousands.
Cool story.
You still have not provided anything of substance to support your claim one must stay in jail for 24 hours and spend "well over $10,000" for a first offense DUI. It's ok though, I can tell you are not well versed in Florida's DUI laws so I can say with some certainty that you have "no clue" about Ohio's.
Have a good evening.
I have never eaten a booger in my entire life. -Jim Harbaugh
When laws are broken by athletes in Ohio, no favoritism, strict penalties, everything by the book
When laws are broken by athletes in FL, nothing ever happens, everything swept under the rug, special treatment
Got it:beer:beer
I have never eaten a booger in my entire life. -Jim Harbaugh
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