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  • Mango TangoMango Tango Posts: 2,018 Captain
    The Body Guard .380 will serve you well..........practice, practice, practice.

    On the .22 the hotter the ammo the better. The weak cheap stuff will not cycle the pistol reliably. For SD it is all about reliability.
  • lilwoodylilwoody Posts: 1,708 Captain
    I still stand by the Beretta Tom Cat as the best micro pistol.
    "Those who will trade freedom for security will have neither".
  • td.td. Posts: 4,695 Captain
    .22 Magnum is a nasty little round and in a revolver, is easily concealed and stays on target decently.
  • SchmidtySchmidty Posts: 6,806 Admiral
    td. wrote: »
    .22 Magnum is a nasty little round and in a revolver, is easily concealed and stays on target decently.

    Yea Buddy.....

    But the word "nasty" doesn't even come close to the damage that the .22 mag will actually do.....

    There is also quite a bit of body armor that it whistles through that will stop a whole bunch of center fire pistol rounds....

    There's a few semi-auto pistols chambered in it, but nothing that I feel is reliable....I have a "like new" High Standard Sentinel Mk IV snubnose revolver in .22 Magnum that I've had since the 70's......it's a 9 shot....and loud as hell....
  • td.td. Posts: 4,695 Captain
    Schmidty wrote: »
    Yea Buddy.....

    But the word "nasty" doesn't even come close to the damage that the .22 mag will actually do.....

    There is also quite a bit of body armor that it whistles through that will stop a whole bunch of center fire pistol rounds....

    There's a few semi-auto pistols chambered in it, but nothing that I feel is reliable....I have a "like new" High Standard Sentinel Mk IV snubnose revolver in .22 Magnum that I've had since the 70's......it's a 9 shot....and loud as hell....

    That's a great gun you have there. I wouldn't buy this round in an auto, I think it in a revolver is a great self defense piece. It's **** near a close range nato round for what it can do. Penetration through a gel block is close to a .357. For what we face in the world today, it will ease right thru body armor and other armor with enough punch to still knock down.
  • jlitton85jlitton85 Posts: 129 Deckhand
    Im looking to get rid of my LCP. I love the form factor of it, and how easy it is to carry in my front pocket, but just highly dislike shooting it. Any ideas?
  • JKPJKP Posts: 3,211 Captain
    jlitton85 wrote: »
    Im looking to get rid of my LCP. I love the form factor of it, and how easy it is to carry in my front pocket, but just highly dislike shooting it. Any ideas?

    Throw it in the river or sell it...
  • HeatwaveHeatwave Posts: 1,997 Captain
    YEp. Twice. Display of the weapon stopped the night time robbery of an elderly woman in a grocery store parking lot, and the second instance the severe beating/robbery attempt of a 30yo woman walking down the sidewalk on a busy street, during rush hour/daylight.......no one stopped to help. I turned around rendered some assistance. To be honest I could have stopped both by beating the guy's **** but why risk getting cut up by some HIV/hepatitis infected POS.

    These situations happen more than people realize. Pisses off my wife sometimes but I tell her if she were to have a "situation" I would hope someone would help her.

    Awesome.... I would do the same... Just never run into anything and am glad I have not...
  • PolarPolar Posts: 22,492 AG
    any thoughts on the kel-tec pf9 ?
  • cadmancadman Posts: 43,623 AG
    Polar wrote: »
    any thoughts on the kel-tec pf9 ?

    I own one I bought from a guy for $100. Not a bad gun. If buying used, the early models had a few problems. The later editions are dependable. Don't pay over $300 for a new one.

    Former Mini Mart Magnate

    I am just here for my amusement. 

  • chaser48chaser48 Posts: 345 Deckhand
    Ok shot the P 22 today very accurate ,and nice and smooth operation now to just find 22lr ammo to play
  • All I could find in a 22 Mag. was the Kel Tek whatever.
    My friends have 2 of them that I've shot . 30 round mags.
    They will Rock a Perps World. I d rather face a Squad of ReCon Marines than that Pistol in a good shooters hands.
    Killin and Grillin :grin
  • chaser48chaser48 Posts: 345 Deckhand
    That would be a PMR30,another sweet gun
  • SchmidtySchmidty Posts: 6,806 Admiral
    chaser48 wrote: »
    Ok shot the P 22 today very accurate ,and nice and smooth operation now to just find 22lr ammo to play

    That's great Chaser.....

    I am glad that you are enjoying it.....and truthfully.....I wouldn't feel that I was in the wrong place if I ever had to face off with some creep with a "9" and held it sideways while firing and I was armed with mine.....

    At close range those Yellow Jacket HP's at 1500FPS will tear up meat and fragment on bone.....

    But don't believe all that "hog wash" about a .22 being a killer at 100 and 200, yards that was shown in a video earlier...sure! It someone were to get hit right through the eye....or smack dead center of the heart....maybe.....but with even those hyper speed .22's moving out at 1500 or better....because of their light weight...30 grains....they also shed speed rather quickly.

    At 100 yards...that 1500fps out of the pipe pill is now going 1020 fps...a little slower and it would be sub-sonic...which means that it won't readily fragment on impact....

    The real beauty of them is that at close range...50 yards and in....when they strike a man sized target ...there's one hell of a chance that they might not even exit and if they did they might actually not cause much harm seeing that they shed all of their energy into the target...and really....that is what you would want...

    Good luck ...
  • PolarPolar Posts: 22,492 AG
    Im looking at trading an 870 for either this
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    or this
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  • JKPJKP Posts: 3,211 Captain
    I would consider a Kahr CM9 before either of those.
  • jlitton85jlitton85 Posts: 129 Deckhand
    Anyone have, or have shot a Sig P290 or Kimber Solo?
  • PolarPolar Posts: 22,492 AG
    JKP wrote: »
    I would consider a Kahr CM9 before either of those.

    Im actually going to look at one of those today as well.
  • Mango TangoMango Tango Posts: 2,018 Captain
    JKP wrote: »
    I would consider a Kahr CM9 before either of those.

    Absolutely.

    My carry pistols get randomly pulled and shot when I go to the range to shoot my range guns. I don't even think about it. I just quickly reach down in my pocket holster, bring the weapon up and dump a mag as if I was in a self defense situation. This means they are dusty and dirty to simulate a real situation to judge reliability. On average my carry pistols get shot and cleaned about every 6-8 months.

    Kel Tec pistols have been the cheapest brand I have owned and in a real world simulation as noted above for me they have demonstrated the least reliability either due to their mags/springs or not wanting to run dirty.

    The Kahr PM9/CM9 have been 100 percent, are more accurate, and more fun to shoot. A have a few LEO friends who carry the CM9 as a BUG.
  • BrakefootBrakefoot Posts: 4 Greenhorn
    I have owned one for years. Shoots 10 times better than the Keltec both my brothers own. I love in south FL so it's nice to have something that small and light but I would like to upgrade to the 9mm.
  • chaser48chaser48 Posts: 345 Deckhand
    Have not heard from Schmidty wanted to let him know that I bought another upgrade
  • ChuckcChuckc Posts: 4,397 Captain
    DB 380 looked like it would bite my hand every time. Elected to get Taurus TCP 738 which doesn't bite but ain't all that fun to shoot.
  • ChuckcChuckc Posts: 4,397 Captain
    BTW, DB also makes a micro 9mm that would be a joy to carry as long as you never had to fire it. It would definitely wreck the web of my thumb.
  • chaser48chaser48 Posts: 345 Deckhand
    M&P Sheild 9mm works for me every time with IWB
  • mrblugilmrblugil Posts: 971 Officer
    I have a Glock and a Kimber and that SR-22 feels better in my hand that either of the other ones,I love it
  • team getterdunteam getterdun Posts: 1,741 Captain
    Springfield EMP.

    Pricey, but well worth it. You won't find another more accurate pistol that size.
    "Fundamentals are nothing but a crutch for the talentless" - Kenny Powers
  • Major WaderMajor Wader Posts: 641 Officer
    Kahr makes some nice smaller pistols. Very reliable, and in the "C" series, very reasonable.
    Joined: Oct 25 2001
    Member #4013
    Canton, GA
  • gandrfabgandrfab Posts: 21,646 AG
    Polar wrote: »
    Im looking at trading an 870 for either this
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    Made right here in FL, mags has a 1st generation and likes it, I have a 3rd generation SCCY and like it.
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