Micro pistols

chaser48

Maybe wrong place to ask, Any one have any exp with Diamond Back 380 for CCWeapon ?

Schmidty

...why would you really want to go with a 9mm Kurtz in the first place?

...just asking...

dnelson

When they first came out the site used to say it had to be fired multiple times to break it in for reliability- this scared me away. A gun should be reliable out of the box.

hooknline

Had a friend of my wife's come over a while back they had one. I shot it. It was ok. Nothing to brag about but fully functional.

Chuckc

If it is anything like my Taurus 380 it isn't particularly pleasant to shoot but is nice to throw in a pocket of a pair of shorts. I looked at the DB micro 9mm and didn't buy it because the web of my hand would get bitten every time I thought.

fish_stix

My carry gun is a Sig P938 (9mm); my daughter-in-law, a police officer, carries a Kimber Solo (9mm). Both are the size of the 380 autos but with a significantly better defensive cartridge. I carry mine in a pocket holster and it's virtually undetectable in my front pocket in both blue jeans and shorts. I have owned two 380 autos, Walther PPK and Sig P230, and never felt adequately armed, plus accuracy was nonexistent which probably doesn't matter much at the distances you'd expect bad encounters to happen.

Griz

I have. Ruger LCP 380. Just for a pocket gun when anything else would be too big to carry. Not all that fun to shoot and I much prefer my Glock 19, but like everything else has a place.

Buckeye

If you can get over the weight consider a Colt New Agent. I carried one for a couple of years and it is practically the same size as a Ruger LCP .380 but chambered in .45 acp - there is a 9mm version too for those girly men.



Although the trench sights on it are cool and it makes a great defensive weapon, I have reconsidered my options and now carry a weapon with more offensive capabilities (sights, longer barrel etc).

JKP

Junk gun and junk cartridge.

Schmidty

Buckeye wrote: »

If you can get over the weight consider a Colt New Agent. I carried one for a couple of years and it is practically the same size as a Ruger LCP .380 but chambered in .45 acp - there is a 9mm version too for those girly men.



Although the trench sights on it are cool and it makes a great defensive weapon, I have reconsidered my options and now carry a weapon with more offensive capabilities (sights, longer barrel etc).

That pistol hurts the living hell out of the heel of my giant hand....especially with a hot flying ash can...

Westwall01

JKP wrote: »

Junk gun and junk cartridge.

I agree. I fired one several times....considered it for u/c work, but eventually decided against it.

Buckeye

Schmidty wrote: »

That pistol hurts the living hell out of the heel of my giant hand....especially with a hot flying ash can...

You must not have a proper grip.

I've had several 200+ round range trips with mine and never had hand issues. I can't hit the broad side of a barn at 10 yards with it, but pain was never an issue. I ended up putting laser grips on it, but still my confidence was crushed as far as accuracy goes and opted to go with a more offensive weapon in the event I ever need to run down someone who just snatched a kid.

gandrfab

After a few months of not smoking my self reward was a new sccy 9mm in S/S
It's a nice little gun but not a micro.

tag

The Diamond Back is a crap gun. Stay away from them. As far as the .380, I've never been murdered while carrying the .380. Not my preferred caliber but sometimes my LCP .380 is all I can carry.

Schmidty

Buckeye wrote: »

You must not have a proper grip.

I've had several 200+ round range trips with mine and never had hand issues. I can't hit the broad side of a barn at 10 yards with it, but pain was never an issue. I ended up putting laser grips on it, but still my confidence was crushed as far as accuracy goes and opted to go with a more offensive weapon in the event I ever need to run down someone who just snatched a kid.

Buckeye....

It's my hand....it's too big...the mag well is about an 1" plus up from the bottom of the heel of my hand...and the sharp bottom digs in....

...plus the +P+ loads that I make don't help matter and even in a full side "11" most people find them objectionable...

chaser48

Thanks for all the replies ,What about the hell cat 380 by I/O ,btw way I have lots of 380 ammo is the reason why

Schmidty

....and is most of that ammo FMJ?

I own a few 9mmK...a Beretta 84BB and a Walther PPK/S........the Beretta being the more accurate and got a whole bunch of rounds in the magazine...

I take it that you just want something to shove in your pocket to collect the lint?

chaser48

FMJ and Winchester,yep to only collect lint and not actually have to use it

JKP

If it has to be a .380 get the Glock. Want smaller? Ruger LCP.

lilwoody

I personally prefer the Beretta Tom Cat for my wife's micro pistol. It's a 32ACP but makes up for it with 8 rounds, dead nuts reliable, as accurate as a micro can get and best it's double single action. 8 accurate rounds can be delivered in very short order. With the tip up barrel it's a snap to load and unload. For a pocket pistol I feel it can't be beat.

mindyabiness

chaser48 wrote: »

Thanks for all the replies ,What about the hell cat 380 by I/O ,btw way I have lots of 380 ammo is the reason why

Over the last few years concealed carry has become almost an expected certification among gun owners. Because of this... so called "mouse guns" have become very popular.
I know little of these guns and have no intention of owning one, but I recently had the opportunity to inspect closely and handle one.
I friend of mine had to have one and he did his homework. He wound up with one of these, chambered in .380. it was larger than I thought it would be. I would not want to fire a gun of this size consistently that used a round much larger than this one (.380). On the other hand, I think the .380 is just a poor choice for a fighting cartridge.

http://www.seecamp.com/products.htm

It was quite expensive but it seemed to me to be well made and the fit and finish was impeccable.
I suggest.... if must have a mouse gun, you might consider this purchase.

treemanjohn

I sell a lot of guns and plenty of Diamondbacks. I'm not really a fan, but they're great for a budget. If you're really wanting a micro look at the Beretta Pico. I carry one with Buffalo Bore .380. It's tiny!

Mango Tango

Diamond is a junk pistol. Painful to shoot.

Schmidty

I have barrels of firearms....

And I gotta say that one of the only reasons why I would carry a teeny-tiny underpowered handgun is because I was leaving the house in pants like ..."sweat shorts" that don't have belt loops to hold my drawers up.....and a real sized pistol would have me tripping on my drawers because they were down around my ankles....:grin

UNLESS you are gonna handload these squb type loads up to the point where they are gonna wear out the weapon in no time...ie....flattened primers and the like...or destroy it outright....then don't fool yourself thinking that a "body shot" is gonna take anyone out....especially someone who's adrenalin is pumped up like a wolf attacking "Li'l Red"...UNLESS you bang them right in the coconut....

...and to tell the truth......even the "big boys" (.40 caliber+) simply will not drop anyone like they show in the movies....with body shots anyway....especially if the "target" is pizzed, high or scared ......

My suggestion is a .45 acp...185 flying ash can...loaded to old or cheap gun breaking velocities......and AIM...not just "kinda aim"...really aim.....aim at the 3rd button on his shirt down from his collar and act like it's the only round you have......

With any luck...the round will start to break apart on impact...shattering the sternum and shower the heart with fragments....and if you're lucky it will cleave off the aorta and then the game ends immediately....

Good luck.....read Bill Jordans book.....

chaser48

Thanks again for all the replies

swampmonster

S&W Shield in 9, the 40 has a lot of recoil in that model. You can get a soft pocket holster and carry it in the front pocket, you may need a shirt hanging over your pocket if its not baggy and deep.

Noeettica

Curtis Reeves One Shot One Kill .380

Right around the corner from me ...

Parkerboy

I carry a Springfield XD-40 sub compact and will change magazine depending on how t am dressed. I simply do not dress where I need anything smaller.

Tarponator

Kel Tec PF9

TripleX

Not a fan of DB! We took one out for some T&E and I was not impressed. Several FTF/F, which for a SD firearm is not good!!
As some have already mentioned, the Ruger LCP is a nice choice as well as Glock and Khar.

Buford Cletus

swampmonster wrote: »

S&W Shield in 9, the 40 has a lot of recoil in that model. You can get a soft pocket holster and carry it in the front pocket, you may need a shirt hanging over your pocket if its not baggy and deep.

I carry a S&W Shield 9MM every day IWB and I can't imagine trying to carry it in my front pocket. It's not a Micro.