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Conchy Cracker
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Socialized Medicine
Conchy Cracker
Bannedthe villagesPosts: 10,454 Officer
Yet another drawback of socialized medicine. They are curing age related blindness.
Those bastards......
British doctors hail 'cure for blindness' with successful treatment of age-related macular degeneration
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/british-doctors-hail-cure-for-blindness-with-successful-treatment-of-age-related-muscular-a6671106.html
Oh and they are doing it with unborn babies......
Those bastards......
British doctors hail 'cure for blindness' with successful treatment of age-related macular degeneration
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/british-doctors-hail-cure-for-blindness-with-successful-treatment-of-age-related-muscular-a6671106.html
Oh and they are doing it with unborn babies......
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And lets be prudent. This trial has 5 years left. You know how many "break throughs" in the search for a cure for cancer I have heard in my life? Heck, I just heard Cuba is giving us the cure for lung cancer somewhere...
A southeast Florida laid back beach bum and volunteer bikini assessor who lives on island time.
Man, that's brutal - you basically just took cranky conker out behind the woodshed and beat him with a rubber hose. :cool:
no one said anything about free. The money is there. It is just the way it is being distributed that is the problem.
In 2014 we spent 3.8 trillion dollars on Health Care in America
That should be plenty to cover All Americans
The rest of the world does it very successfully
No they don't.
Ah........yup, no matter what CC and ricky think or say.
We are still waiting for all the bills of DEM-care to hit after BHO kicked the bills into the future, after he is out of office, it a weak attempt to slough off his legacy of extraordinary bills onto the next occupant of the WH.
Are the French happy with their health care system?
A.
Eurobarometer, Harris Interactive and other studies of consumer perceptions have consistently reported high rates of satisfaction among the French — among the highest in the European Union and certainly higher than in the United States. Still, my French colleagues were surprised when the W.H.O. report came out, ranking their system No. 1, because they are typically critical of their system. I don’t know any health system about which you can’t tell a horror story that occurred to a patient. That’s why it is so important to avoid cocktail party anecdotes of health system performance and rather examine evidence in a more systematic fashion.
Never mind the anecdotes: Do Canadians like their health-care system?
Apparently.
By an overwhelming margin, Canadians prefer the Canadian health care system to the American one. Overall, 82% said they preferred the Canadian system, fully ten times the number who said the American system is superior (8%)....from a Harris-Decima poll (.pdf), July 2009. .
The vast majority of Canadians, 91 per cent, felt that Canada's health care system was better than the United States
The British Are Surprisingly Satisfied With Their Controversial Socialized Health Care System
It turns out the British National Health Service (NHS) — a system free at the point of service and funded by tax money — is pretty popular, despite the frequent controversy in the tabloids (one recent Daily Mail headline, "Thousands Dying Of Thirst On NHS").
An impressive 61% of respondents said they were "satisfied" with the socialized health care system, according to a British Social Attitudes survey released today.
To give you an idea of how that stacks against the U.S. health care system, take a look at a comparative study that appeared in the Health Affairs journal earlier this year. Using patient satisfaction surveys from 11 different countries, the authors found that just 28.9% of U.S. citizens felt that their health care system "works pretty well, and only minor changes are necessary to make it work better." The figure for the United Kingdom was 61.3% — almost exactly the BSA result.
1. Australia (Population 22.32 million, GDP US$1.379 trillion)
That’s right, their beaches and exotic wildlife aren’t the only things keeping Australians happy — their medical system is too! In Australia, public coverage is guaranteed to all, but the state encourages wealthier individuals to use a private system by enforcing an additional 1% tax on those who fall above a certain income level but use the public system anyway. The fruits of the government’s innovative techniques are evident in Australia’s death rate from conditions amenable to medical care, which was a startling 50% less than America’s in 2003 and 25% less than the United Kingdom's.
And, your point?
Three countries, are the "whole world?" Your words, not mine. :grin
Keep digging a hole, ricky. Also, please give us a graph of how these programs are paid for, the tax rates in each country and which ones are broke/soon to be broke. TYIA.
Yeah, just got back from Canada where they have socialized medicine. Yet, even though it's FANTASTIC there, when the Canadian Prime Minister needed heart surgery, where did he go? He went to America rickc. He didn't stay in Canada, he went to America.
I and/or my wife have been 'treated' at health care facilities in the UK, (recently), the Bahamas and in New Zealand. I was INSIDE the exam rooms. It's a JOKE! All are socialized medicine countries. The UK place was in a mall!
When I went to a clinic in New Zealand for a bad cough, the 'doctor' never asked me what meds I was taking, never took my BP, no forms..... nada. I was in/out in 10 mins and it cost me $10. He gave me a prescription for an inhaler but what if it conflicted with my regular meds? Yeah, I got what I paid for.
We took my now deceased father-in-law to a major New Zealand hospital for his Chemo when he was dying of Colon Cancer. This major hospital looked like something from the '60s. Paint peeling off the walls, OLD computers and on and on.
One Dr that I see annually here in Florida was a college grad at 15. He started Med School at 16. He graduated in his specialty from Yale Med School at 23. Are you starting to 'see' now?
Go get 'treated' overseas and then come back and brag how GREAT socilized medicine is!
yep
The wealthy can get great health care in America and get it quick.
America the best health care you can Afford
My wife is a British citizen (now a full-time legal immigrant here) and would be dead had she not come here for treatment. Not going into details about what they botched.
And, she paid a hefty premium to have service above what the "free" plan provides.
Like most things socialist, the foundation is built on wishful feel-good delusions.
So far as cost goes, her medical bills this last calendar year would have been almost $400,000 had we not had a reasonably priced PPO plan and only co-paid a little over 1/100th of that.
When she was over there last year to sell her residence she was talking with her primary care doc and friend to tell her what she was receiving. The doc sad, "My word! You would have had to wait for months here."
A southeast Florida laid back beach bum and volunteer bikini assessor who lives on island time.
Health care is universal. It is the rising cost of it here in the USA that the LWNJ promote.
Late 2004, my wife has a cyst removed from one of her breasts at a US military clinic in Germany. They choose to leave the incision open "so it can drain and get air". She tells them "we are flying to Spain in 2 days" but they tell her "no worries, don't go swimming". No medication provided.
While in Spain, it was clearly getting infected so I go to a local store and buy iodine and bandages to perform first aid on her chest. The next day we fly back to Germany and she immediately goes back to the American military clinic. They would not give her any antibiotics, told her "we are getting reports of too many dependents abusing drugs". Unbelievable incompetence.
We then immediately go to the Krankenhaus (German hospital) where they admit her within 10 min, clean the wound, suture it, and give her antibiotics. No bill, no hassle, didn't chastise her for not speaking German, in and out under an hour. She was better within 2-3 days.
The hospital wasn't pretty but I recall that there was not one American I know of who had any reservations about the quality of their healthcare or trusted our own American medical care more than their healthcare.
Walker your mind is made up. If you were really interested you would do your own research.
What is that?
The cost will crush the system.
we have 3.8 trillion dollars to work with without spending another dime.
In theory not a bad idea. Many physicians I've talked to agree, they can work within the rules. But fraud and corruption make it difficult to support.
"Prediction is very difficult, especially if it's about the future." Niels Bohr
Once all the states expand medicaid, I bet we will only be talking about less than 10% of the population. How many of those have no insurance due to choice rather than finances.
It is a very small group that does not have insurance due to finances and not choice.
Former Mini Mart Magnate
I am just here for my amusement.
In 2014, 48.1 mil recipients cost $597 bil. Medicare, that is. Where's the money coming from?
simple!
Out of the rest of the 3.8 trillion dollars we give the insurance companies. Same money just distributed differently. Cut out a bunch of middlemen.
Difference of opinion here. Cost are already out of control due to greed. Medicare has price controls.
This is seriously your answer?? Price controls? You would feel right at home in Mother Russia. Should we ration it also?