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Fish HaidFish Haid Posts: 8,417 Admiral
As I mentioned previously, a tree branch took out the plumbing at my well tank. Today, I repaired it, but I also made some changes.

Previously, the tank was connected nearest to the well head, and the pressure switch was right there also. There is also a whole-house filter which was between the tank and the house. I moved the filter to upstream of the tank because I figured I might as well filter the water going to the tank. Tank is less than a year old.

When I opened the valve to the house (which is far away), the pumped started short-cycling really bad. Bouncing on-off every 2 seconds. Checked tank pressure and bled pipes in house, but still happening.

I'm guessing maybe the problem is that pressure switch needs to be at the tank (which is after the filter)?
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  • cadmancadman Posts: 43,586 AG
    Pressure switch is before the tank. Are you sure you wired the pressure switch correctly? Your tank bladder pressure should be 2lbs less than the pump cut in pressure. Could be the pressure switch is bad or a bad wire to the contacts.

    The filter before the tank could also be causing your problems depending on the type. Untreated water will not hurt the tank. The system won't backwash ( I assume you are using a backwash system that cleans the media) properly with the filter before the tank.

    I just installed an Iron and sulfur filter for my brother and replaced his pressure tank and switch just last month.

    my 2c

    Former Mini Mart Magnate

    I am just here for my amusement. 

  • Turner River TerrorTurner River Terror Posts: 11,871 AG
    I use to have a rental house.....
    Killin and Grillin :grin
  • paranoid.androidparanoid.android Posts: 99 Deckhand
    cadman wrote: »
    The filter before the tank could also be causing your problems depending on the type.

    This. Replumb.
  • Pescatoral PursuitPescatoral Pursuit Posts: 5,065 Admiral
    It doesn't matter if your tank is at the house or at the well.

    It matters much if there is a filter in between. Big nono. Nothing, not even a shut off, between the wellhead/ pressure switch/ bladder tank.

    After you remove the filter from between the well and pressure tank/ switch:

    Cut the power off to the pump and depressurize the water piping.

    Your badder tank should be pressurized to 2# less than the power on rating of your pressure switch. Ex: 40-60# switch= 38# air pressure in bladder tank. Again: This must be measured with water/ line pressure at ZERO.

    If you still have problems short cycling, you may have a bad bladder tank or pressure switch.

    Keep your pressure switch and pressure tank together.
  • Fish HaidFish Haid Posts: 8,417 Admiral
    Well,as I said in another thread - this house has a jinx or curse on it recently. So, I set out to move the pressure switch, but as I was doing that I realized the tank was very heavy. Sure enough - the tank is bad (water-logged - bad bladder). It was working fine a few days ago! All I did was repair some pipes. Getting aggravated!!!

    Installed new tank - not tested yet because it started raining (a lot).
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  • cadmancadman Posts: 43,586 AG
    Fish Haid wrote: »
    Well,as I said in another thread - this house has a jinx or curse on it recently. So, I set out to move the pressure switch, but as I was doing that I realized the tank was very heavy. Sure enough - the tank is bad (water-logged - bad bladder). It was working fine a few days ago! All I did was repair some pipes. Getting aggravated!!!

    Installed new tank - not tested yet because it started raining (a lot).

    You still need to move the filter, it won't backflush correctly.

    Former Mini Mart Magnate

    I am just here for my amusement. 

  • Fish HaidFish Haid Posts: 8,417 Admiral
    cadman wrote: »
    You still need to move the filter, it won't backflush correctly.

    Backflush? No idea what you mean. It is a filter, not a softener.
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  • lilwoodylilwoody Posts: 1,707 Captain
    Every filtration device either needs to be backwashed or replaced regularly.
    "Those who will trade freedom for security will have neither".
  • cadmancadman Posts: 43,586 AG
    Fish Haid wrote: »
    Backflush? No idea what you mean. It is a filter, not a softener.

    A sediment filter? That is even worse to put in front of the tank and pressure switch.

    Most whole house iron, sulfur, mineral filters use a media to filter the contaminates and then back flush to clean the media.

    A sediment filter is worthless and might as well just remove it.

    Former Mini Mart Magnate

    I am just here for my amusement. 

  • Fish HaidFish Haid Posts: 8,417 Admiral
    Update - hooked up with new tank. Working fine. Left filter where I moved it to. Pump-->switch-->filter-->tank/house. Flowing great, on at 40, off at 65.

    Sediment filter worthless??? I guess you're right - after all, it only keeps out the sediment. Wait - that's what it's for. It works good too!!! I can see how you might not want one though - if you like sand in your ice cubes and rust flakes in your washing machine. Cleaning those faucet strainers weekly is also lots of fun! My sediment is mostly rust specks - the well guy said it was due to someone putting bleach down there at some point. I remember one time before I had a filter - the carpenter ants made nest in the control box, and dead ants were coming out of the faucet.

    Water is clear, odorless, and very tasty!!!!!!
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  • Pescatoral PursuitPescatoral Pursuit Posts: 5,065 Admiral
    As your filter craps up it may interfere with the pressure fluctuations which may lead to problems which may lead to premature pump failure.
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