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Obviously he is an expert...his middle name is "kat"....bow to the kat, dude!
This might be true.... but check with the experts before you believe it, or re-post it. It adds some perspective....
Sooo.... If you go on a Safari....obey the rules, and don't kill the one with a name.....
I AM NOT A RACIST
He'll kill himself soon enough.
Yes - if you go on safari - obey the rules - and kill an unnamed non-beloved lion Zimbabwe cashes the check and the world continues to turn.
describes it at all.
AND the evil dentist will not be extradited unless it would play into Hillary's campaign if she needs the PETA vote.
LOL ... yeah, she'll have a real difficulty prying the PETA vote away from the righties ...
He will be extradited and have to pay a large fine before he can return home ... maybe he will be allowed to just pay the fine as part of a plea bargain
the righties approve of poaching
no surprise there ... they're for shooting anything from Africa
Straight out of the PETA hand book there Peter. The dentist had the money, he spent it, there you go. I'm now so mad I'm going to make a sign saying, "Justice for Cecil" and loot something. You guys are a hoot. Doesn't PETA have their own forum?
Ooops again - the sign will read "Justice for Beloved Cecil"
big game hunting and still be able to enforce their anti-poaching laws without any
fallout from this.
This wasn't hunting.
In my case PETA stands for "Peter Eats Tasty Animals" that he shoots with dangerous archery equipment and longguns.
JUSTICE FOR THE BELOVED CECIL:rotflmao
2-It is sad and amazing how we as a nation are so easily distracted by something "shiny".
3-There are lions and other large animals hunted every day all across Africa. It is foolish to make such a big deal out of this event.
4-Contrary to the narrative being forced down the US news consumers gullet,,, Lions are not endangered.
I enjoy hunting. I do not consider this style of hunting to be sporting. Baiting a lion or any other animal into the open, shooting it with a less than ideal weapon from the back of a truck and following professional guides across the plains as they do all of the work and track the animal is NOT hunting (my opinion only).
"Today is MINE"
Baiting and hunting in the same paragraph. Not related.
I missed you picking on me.
JUSTICE FOR THE BELOVED CECIL. Doesn't matter it is now and has always been an accepted way to hunt the big cats. If you don't approve then cancel your African big game hunt. Rain has stopped. The Twins and Blue Jays are live on MLB. Have you studied the difference between a compound bow and a cross bow? Let me know tomorrow. I'm done for today. What a "sportsman" forum. :chill always a great way to spend a rainy afternoon. Glad someone said "they are not endangered". Since I have already been declared a non-expert I wasn't going to mention that bit of trivia.:blowkiss:blowkiss
African Lion Populations Drop 42 Percent in Past 21 Years
Outside of those four nations, things aren’t as good. Lion populations have fallen in most other countries, with an average decline of 60 percent. The worst hit has been the West African population of lions, which has now been classified as critically endangered. A study published last year found that only about 400 lions remained in the 17 nations of West Africa.
You can thank me for not adding to my signature line...cool:
Me thinks that Charity Charamba knows that Mr Palmer will go another 100k to clear his name and be able to return to kill more.
And at this point...I'm sure that Walter is trying to figure out what this is going to cost him and he just wants it over.
Money will fix this and what ever Mr. Palmer has to pay......he deserves it.
I AM NOT A RACIST
I AM NOT A RACIST
I think that is different. I would shoot a trophy deer as I would eat it. Probably do a Euro mount as well. Deer are hooved pests.
I don't think I would eat a lion. They are declining in population in most areas, and their outlook is not great in most as well.
I will restate in that shooting something with no plans to eat it, only to hang on a wall is morally bankrupt.
I get that....I don't necessarily agree however. I'm of the opinion that when the passion for recognition becomes greater, than the passion for the hunt....something is definitely wrong.
I think hunting a predator (another hunter), without using food as bait, makes you about as good a hunter as there is....it's hunting at it's hardest, most difficult, and most rewarding...as long as it is sustainable, hunting a threatened species or a protected one is bad practice
This is where it starts to get off topic so I'll make it brief......
Deer hunting and deer farming for antlers is way past the point of hunting now. It's time we call out and recognize those for how they took the deer not just if and how big the horns are. If you can be successful without planting, baiting or cameras...... now your hunting, not just harvesting.
I AM NOT A RACIST
Hunting is fine with me. Even trophy hunting. ALL ethical hunting is fine with me.
It's the poaching that gets me. Poaching for food is one thing but poaching for nothing but a trophy is sick.
“If the purpose of hunting is only to kill an
animal, then the process is moot; we contain the
technological ability to kill all animals.”
–Allen Morris Jones
The phrase “fair chase” has a very specific meaning in the hunting world. The Boone and Crockett Club defines it as “the ethical, sportsmanlike, and lawful pursuit and taking of any free-ranging wild, native North American big-game animal in a manner that does not give the hunter an improper advantage over such animals.” This means fair-chase hunters pursue their quarry on foot; hone their skills so they make quick, clean kills; and obey the law.
Jim Posewitz, the founder of Orion, The Hunter’s Institute, writes (in Beyond Fair Chase) that fair chase “addresses the balance between the hunter and the hunted. It is a balance that allows hunters to occasionally succeed while animals generally avoid being taken.” The principle of “fair chase” is revered by ethical sportsmen and a cornerstone of the American hunting heritage.
good read in that link ...
I don't think much went to waste in the bush back then.
"Today is MINE"
I suggest "shooting" any endangered species for a trophy should be done with a DSLR and just a 100mm lens for the "head shot"....
if you survive to print it, you have something to brag about....
I have a friend who shoots for nat-geo and has been on some shoots in Africa....
he told me that even with a 400mm lens he felt "uncomfortably close" to large predators....
The Real White Dog
if you can't catch a fish...catch a buzz....
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Killing an endangered species would not be ethical.
I've grown tired of violence ... cameras are what I shoot with now ...