What do y'all think about this as a basic home defense weapon?

lilwoody

Mister-Jr wrote: »

In the past 35 years I have lived in Tampa, Atlanta, Los Angles and South Florida without ever owning a firearm. I laugh at these threads.

The RE attorney who we use to purchase our house through in 92 was just like you. Did not see a point in carrying a pistol. He set his security on alarms and surveillance, that was until about 6 months ago. He was followed home, ambushed before he got out of his car, then he and his wife were tied and beaten. He has some very nice pictures of his new friends (who must enjoy winter sports) for his scrap book. He now has fresh opportunity to go shopping for jewelry and electronics with that insurance money he knows well how to claim. He also has a brand new Glock and some new found friends at the local gun range.

Mark O.

Mister-Jr wrote: »

In the past 35 years I have lived in Tampa, Atlanta, Los Angles and South Florida without ever owning a firearm. I laugh at these threads.

The vast majority of people without guns could say the same thing...but it's because enough people DO have guns that it is a deterrent to criminals...making it less likely that some thug would just walk into your home and take what he wants. So you should be thanking the citizens who do own guns.

Mister-Jr

lilwoody wrote: »

The RE attorney who we use to purchase our house through in 92 was just like you. Did not see a point in carrying a pistol. He set his security on alarms and surveillance, that was until about 6 months ago. He was followed home, ambushed before he got out of his car, then he and his wife were tied and beaten. He has some very nice pictures of his new friends (who must enjoy winter sports) for his scrap book. He now has fresh opportunity to go shopping for jewelry and electronics with that insurance money he knows well how to claim. He also has a brand new Glock and some new found friends at the local gun range.

If he was ambushed what good would a gun have done?

Mister-Jr

Mark O. wrote: »

The vast majority of people without guns could say the same thing...but it's because enough people DO have guns that it is a deterrent to criminals...making it less likely that some thug would just walk into your home and take what he wants. So you should be thanking the citizens who do own guns.

Thank you Mark O!

jad1097

mikev wrote: »

Well, you have to admit I was right. Well, you don't have to, but you should.

Nope. You have to be more than "close"

Schmidty

chubasco wrote: »

I live in a gated community where they also patrol all night and have everyone coming in or out on video yet, I still have to shoot at least one person a week.

You're lucky.....

Most places throw you out if you shoot that many neighbors....:grin

jad1097

Mister-Jr wrote: »

If he was ambushed what good would a gun have done?

None. He should have been a good bit more attention

lilwoody

Mister-Jr wrote: »

If he was ambushed what good would a gun have done?

What good wouldn't it have done? By not owning a firearm and having training with it and most important being trained in awareness the situation would have never happened. The best self defense weapon a person has is between their ears. Just like anything training sharpens these skills. Walking around through life with a false sense of security makes you vulnerable.

Baits Out

My former FBI friend frequently says, "You may go throughout your life with no incidents.
But, . . . it only takes that one brief time to erase all else."

Mister-Jr

lilwoody wrote: »

What good wouldn't it have done? By not owning a firearm and having training with it and most important being trained in awareness the situation would have never happened. The best self defense weapon a person has is between their ears. Just like anything training sharpens these skills. Walking around through life with a false sense of security makes you vulnerable.

I believe people that own guns for self protection purposes have the false sense of security of being armed. If someone is going to ambush me, it makes no difference if I'm armed or not. I have lived in South Florida a long time and have many friends and business clients, but have never heard of any of them needing a firearm to defend themselves.

I spend many nights at Lake Okeechobee and hundreds of nights in the Everglades and Everglades City without ever needing a firearm. I travel to West Palm Beach and Miami on business and pleasure, going to UM and Marlin games and several Heat games and never felt threatened.

Mister-Jr

Baits Out wrote: »

My former FBI friend frequently says, "You may go throughout your life with no incidents.
But, . . . it only takes that one brief time to erase all else."

Tell him his chances of dying in an auto accident are about a 1,000 times more than getting shot. Tell him I said so.

mikev

Mister-Jr wrote: »

Tell him his chances of dying in an auto accident are about a 1,000 times more than getting shot. Tell him I said so.

Well, if you like to hunt, and you have a weapon already, what's the harm in keeping it available?

mississippi mac

my rifles and shotguns are on display racks mounted on the walls in my bedroom(other rooms have too much art and collectable fishing gear on them)...
my pistols are on shelves above the head stead of my bed....
I only keep 2 loaded, my model 29 S&W .44 mag and my S&W model 48 .22 mag....

first line of defense is a 110# malamute and an 18# wiener dog...
if you make it past them, then you'll be looking down the barrel of the .44 mag....

and to be perfectly honest, I don't really feel compelled to keep either pistol loaded...it's just that they are useless without being loaded...

in our neighborhood there hasn't been a break-in at least 100 years....
only thing ever stolen from me was a pair of 3/8" spinnaker sheets and shackles and 200' of 1/2" anchor rhode...
I recovered those items...(dumb crook\sailor)...

Mister-Jr

mikev wrote: »

Well, if you like to hunt, and you have a weapon already, what's the harm in keeping it available?

Absolutely nothing. Before I moved to Florida I was a bird hunter and had an Ithaca 12ga shotgun that I keep at home.

mississippi mac

Mister-Jr wrote: »

Absolutely nothing. Before I moved to Florida I was a bird hunter and had an Ithaca 12ga shotgun that I keep at home.

I hope you didn't use it on quail...

Mister-Jr

mississippi mac wrote: »

I hope you didn't use it on quail...

Ducks and geese.

mississippi mac

Mister-Jr wrote: »

Ducks and geese.

nice image of the geese....

aqua-holic

I keep one of my judges and a 44 magnum in my bedroom right by my side and if my family needs more they know where to go

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Nick Nikon

aqua-holic wrote: »

I keep one of my judges and a 44 magnum in my bedroom right by my side and if my family needs more they know where to go

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We feel sorry for your wrists ... both of them.

Nick Nikon

Up until a few years ago, the only weapon that Mossberg marketed for "home defense" was a .410 pump action repeater, with a pistol grip on the pump. Things have changed ... unfortunately.

In a "worst case" situation, these 12 gauge doorstops, no matter the capacity, are good for one shot.


It's 3:30 AM, the dog starts barking, and the burned-out hall light still needs replacement.

You're still half-bagged from an end-of-week visit to the tavern with co-workers.

If you touch-off one of those newer "home defense weapons", two things will happen:

Number one: you're going to be stone deaf for five minutes.

Indoors, a short barrel 12 gauge is the **** crack of doom!

Number two: You're also going to be blind for several seconds.

The muzzle flash in the dark will leave you blinking badly.

"Deaf and blind" isn't an advantage.


A flashlight, a pistol, and a mean dog would be our choice.

mindyabiness

I am not a fan of a pistol grip on a shotgun as they put your face in a position that doesn't lend itself to a correct instinctive shooting position and allows the rear of the receiver to smack you in the snot box should you stuff 3 1/2" magnum shells in the weapon.....

Hurt like helll..... didn't it?

Schmidty

mindyabiness wrote: »

Hurt like helll..... didn't it?

....why.........yes it did....:grin

cadman

Baits Out wrote: »

Though this is a condo community, I live in a "villa," meaning a detached and regular 3/2 single family residence.

Given everything I have learned to date, a shotgun is a better option.

Use these

http://www.keepshooting.com/12ga-rubber-bullets.html

Gary S. Colecchio

cadman wrote: »

Use these

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wz7GUxBATp8

newguy101

Interesting to see and hear what other people use. Each of us have our own way or favorite weapon of choice my own thinking is I use what ever I am most familiar with. I am no expert in firearms just been shooting a long long time, pistol and rifle. The only thing that I personally stay away from are any arms or blades for "home defense" that are to tactical looking, or sold with what a jury could see as being sold as strictly a home defense weapon (look at original post) skulls and a pistol grip. Don't get me wrong I have tactical weapons, if it goes to court do you want them to hold up the latest greatest weapon a civilian can buy or something a little less ominous...jury's are a sometimes a strange bunch. If you hit the intruder in the head with a bat, someone will think you should have just hit their arm. If you know what I mean. Stay safe anyway you can��

Tug Boat Bob

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Mossberg 500 12g Cruiser/Persuader Combo Package W/Pistol Grip & Full Stock


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Type: Shotgun
Caliber: 12 Gauge
Capacity: 2.75" 7+1
Action: Pump Action
Finish: Matte Blue
Receiver: Matte Blue
Stock: Pistol Grip, Black Synthetic Stock Included
Sights: Bead
Barrel Length: 20"
Overall Length: 30.25" Pistol Grip or 41" Full Size Stock
Weight: 6 lbs or 7 lbs
Chokes: Cylinder Bore
Chamber: 3"
Heat Shield Installed

mindyabiness

Schmidty wrote: »

....why.........yes it did....:grin

Thank you for not asking "How did you know that".

cadman

Nick Nikon wrote: »

Up until a few years ago, the only weapon that Mossberg marketed for "home defense" was a .410 pump action repeater, with a pistol grip on the pump. Things have changed ... unfortunately.

I own a 12ga Mossberg pump with pistol grips that was marketed for "home defense" that I bought back in 1982. It had a 28" barrel and an 18.5" barrel. Regular stock and pistol grip was included. Would never be my choice for home defense.

I bought it from the old Service Merchandise company when they were closing the Gainesville store. Paid $100 for the thing on clearance.

MRichardson

The only expert on this matter would be someone who's shot lots of home intruders with both types of weapon. Everything else is speculative. Can't be but only 3 or 4 such folks left on this forum now that Mitch is gone.

Pistols are great, but folks can't hit **** with them. Especially in real life (not the range)
and in the dark.

Cyclist

bear spray....used upwind....