What do y'all think about this as a basic home defense weapon?

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  • jad1097jad1097 Posts: 9,609 Admiral
    Mister-Jr wrote: »
    In the past 35 years I have lived in Tampa, Atlanta, Los Angles and South Florida without ever owning a firearm. I laugh at these threads.
    I don't own a gun either.
  • mikevmikev Posts: 10,822 AG
    jad1097 wrote: »
    Keep telling yourself that and it may come true one day

    Well, you have to admit I was right. Well, you don't have to, but you should.
    "The only people that tell you it can't be done are the people who haven't done it themselves."
  • lilwoodylilwoody Posts: 1,045 Officer
    Mister-Jr wrote: »
    In the past 35 years I have lived in Tampa, Atlanta, Los Angles and South Florida without ever owning a firearm. I laugh at these threads.

    The RE attorney who we use to purchase our house through in 92 was just like you. Did not see a point in carrying a pistol. He set his security on alarms and surveillance, that was until about 6 months ago. He was followed home, ambushed before he got out of his car, then he and his wife were tied and beaten. He has some very nice pictures of his new friends (who must enjoy winter sports) for his scrap book. He now has fresh opportunity to go shopping for jewelry and electronics with that insurance money he knows well how to claim. He also has a brand new Glock and some new found friends at the local gun range.
    "Those who will trade freedom for security will have neither".
  • Mark O.Mark O. Posts: 3,401 Captain
    Mister-Jr wrote: »
    In the past 35 years I have lived in Tampa, Atlanta, Los Angles and South Florida without ever owning a firearm. I laugh at these threads.
    The vast majority of people without guns could say the same thing...but it's because enough people DO have guns that it is a deterrent to criminals...making it less likely that some thug would just walk into your home and take what he wants. So you should be thanking the citizens who do own guns.
  • Mister-JrMister-Jr Posts: 26,559 AG
    lilwoody wrote: »
    The RE attorney who we use to purchase our house through in 92 was just like you. Did not see a point in carrying a pistol. He set his security on alarms and surveillance, that was until about 6 months ago. He was followed home, ambushed before he got out of his car, then he and his wife were tied and beaten. He has some very nice pictures of his new friends (who must enjoy winter sports) for his scrap book. He now has fresh opportunity to go shopping for jewelry and electronics with that insurance money he knows well how to claim. He also has a brand new Glock and some new found friends at the local gun range.

    If he was ambushed what good would a gun have done?
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  • Mister-JrMister-Jr Posts: 26,559 AG
    Mark O. wrote: »
    The vast majority of people without guns could say the same thing...but it's because enough people DO have guns that it is a deterrent to criminals...making it less likely that some thug would just walk into your home and take what he wants. So you should be thanking the citizens who do own guns.

    Thank you Mark O!
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  • jad1097jad1097 Posts: 9,609 Admiral
    mikev wrote: »
    Well, you have to admit I was right. Well, you don't have to, but you should.
    Nope. You have to be more than "close"
  • SchmidtySchmidty Posts: 6,814 Admiral
    chubasco wrote: »
    I live in a gated community where they also patrol all night and have everyone coming in or out on video yet, I still have to shoot at least one person a week.

    You're lucky.....

    Most places throw you out if you shoot that many neighbors....:grin
    On Wednesday, 1/25/2017...Florida Sportsman "Big Kahunna"......"Triple Threat 33T" gave his "official word"...and greasy thumb print...by saying....."Here's your written rules Schmidty, No Politics in OT. You're welcome."

    ...and with that history was made...:)
  • jad1097jad1097 Posts: 9,609 Admiral
    Mister-Jr wrote: »
    If he was ambushed what good would a gun have done?
    None. He should have been a good bit more attention
  • lilwoodylilwoody Posts: 1,045 Officer
    Mister-Jr wrote: »
    If he was ambushed what good would a gun have done?

    What good wouldn't it have done? By not owning a firearm and having training with it and most important being trained in awareness the situation would have never happened. The best self defense weapon a person has is between their ears. Just like anything training sharpens these skills. Walking around through life with a false sense of security makes you vulnerable.
    "Those who will trade freedom for security will have neither".
  • Baits OutBaits Out Posts: 12,281 AG
    My former FBI friend frequently says, "You may go throughout your life with no incidents.
    But, . . . it only takes that one brief time to erase all else."
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  • Mister-JrMister-Jr Posts: 26,559 AG
    lilwoody wrote: »
    What good wouldn't it have done? By not owning a firearm and having training with it and most important being trained in awareness the situation would have never happened. The best self defense weapon a person has is between their ears. Just like anything training sharpens these skills. Walking around through life with a false sense of security makes you vulnerable.

    I believe people that own guns for self protection purposes have the false sense of security of being armed. If someone is going to ambush me, it makes no difference if I'm armed or not. I have lived in South Florida a long time and have many friends and business clients, but have never heard of any of them needing a firearm to defend themselves.

    I spend many nights at Lake Okeechobee and hundreds of nights in the Everglades and Everglades City without ever needing a firearm. I travel to West Palm Beach and Miami on business and pleasure, going to UM and Marlin games and several Heat games and never felt threatened.
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  • Mister-JrMister-Jr Posts: 26,559 AG
    Baits Out wrote: »
    My former FBI friend frequently says, "You may go throughout your life with no incidents.
    But, . . . it only takes that one brief time to erase all else."

    Tell him his chances of dying in an auto accident are about a 1,000 times more than getting shot. Tell him I said so.
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  • mikevmikev Posts: 10,822 AG
    Mister-Jr wrote: »
    Tell him his chances of dying in an auto accident are about a 1,000 times more than getting shot. Tell him I said so.


    Well, if you like to hunt, and you have a weapon already, what's the harm in keeping it available?
    "The only people that tell you it can't be done are the people who haven't done it themselves."
  • mississippi macmississippi mac Posts: 4,215 Officer
    my rifles and shotguns are on display racks mounted on the walls in my bedroom(other rooms have too much art and collectable fishing gear on them)...
    my pistols are on shelves above the head stead of my bed....
    I only keep 2 loaded, my model 29 S&W .44 mag and my S&W model 48 .22 mag....

    first line of defense is a 110# malamute and an 18# wiener dog...
    if you make it past them, then you'll be looking down the barrel of the .44 mag....

    and to be perfectly honest, I don't really feel compelled to keep either pistol loaded...it's just that they are useless without being loaded...

    in our neighborhood there hasn't been a break-in at least 100 years....
    only thing ever stolen from me was a pair of 3/8" spinnaker sheets and shackles and 200' of 1/2" anchor rhode...
    I recovered those items...(dumb crook\sailor)...
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  • Mister-JrMister-Jr Posts: 26,559 AG
    mikev wrote: »
    Well, if you like to hunt, and you have a weapon already, what's the harm in keeping it available?

    Absolutely nothing. Before I moved to Florida I was a bird hunter and had an Ithaca 12ga shotgun that I keep at home.
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  • mississippi macmississippi mac Posts: 4,215 Officer
    Mister-Jr wrote: »
    Absolutely nothing. Before I moved to Florida I was a bird hunter and had an Ithaca 12ga shotgun that I keep at home.

    I hope you didn't use it on quail...
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  • Mister-JrMister-Jr Posts: 26,559 AG
    I hope you didn't use it on quail...

    Ducks and geese.
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  • mississippi macmississippi mac Posts: 4,215 Officer
    Mister-Jr wrote: »
    Ducks and geese.

    nice image of the geese....
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  • aqua-holicaqua-holic Tampa,FLPosts: 214 Deckhand
    I keep one of my judges and a 44 magnum in my bedroom right by my side and if my family needs more they know where to go :D

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  • Nick NikonNick Nikon Posts: 1,850 Captain
    aqua-holic wrote: »
    I keep one of my judges and a 44 magnum in my bedroom right by my side and if my family needs more they know where to go :D

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  • Nick NikonNick Nikon Posts: 1,850 Captain
    Up until a few years ago, the only weapon that Mossberg marketed for "home defense" was a .410 pump action repeater, with a pistol grip on the pump. Things have changed ... unfortunately.

    In a "worst case" situation, these 12 gauge doorstops, no matter the capacity, are good for one shot.


    It's 3:30 AM, the dog starts barking, and the burned-out hall light still needs replacement.

    You're still half-bagged from an end-of-week visit to the tavern with co-workers.

    If you touch-off one of those newer "home defense weapons", two things will happen:

    Number one: you're going to be stone deaf for five minutes.

    Indoors, a short barrel 12 gauge is the **** crack of doom!

    Number two: You're also going to be blind for several seconds.

    The muzzle flash in the dark will leave you blinking badly.

    "Deaf and blind" isn't an advantage.


    A flashlight, a pistol, and a mean dog would be our choice.
  • mindyabinessmindyabiness Posts: 3,916 Captain
    I am not a fan of a pistol grip on a shotgun as they put your face in a position that doesn't lend itself to a correct instinctive shooting position and allows the rear of the receiver to smack you in the snot box should you stuff 3 1/2" magnum shells in the weapon.....

    Hurt like helll..... didn't it?
    Arguing with idiots is like playing chess with a pigeon... No matter how good you are, the bird is going to crap on the board and strut around like it won anyway.
  • SchmidtySchmidty Posts: 6,814 Admiral
    Hurt like helll..... didn't it?

    ....why.........yes it did....:grin
    On Wednesday, 1/25/2017...Florida Sportsman "Big Kahunna"......"Triple Threat 33T" gave his "official word"...and greasy thumb print...by saying....."Here's your written rules Schmidty, No Politics in OT. You're welcome."

    ...and with that history was made...:)
  • cadmancadman Home of the Gators Posts: 24,403 AG
    Baits Out wrote: »
    Though this is a condo community, I live in a "villa," meaning a detached and regular 3/2 single family residence.

    Given everything I have learned to date, a shotgun is a better option.

    Use these

    http://www.keepshooting.com/12ga-rubber-bullets.html

    Mini Mart Magnate

  • Gary S. ColecchioGary S. Colecchio Posts: 24,922 Officer
    cadman wrote: »
    Use these

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  • newguy101newguy101 Posts: 31 Deckhand
    Interesting to see and hear what other people use. Each of us have our own way or favorite weapon of choice my own thinking is I use what ever I am most familiar with. I am no expert in firearms just been shooting a long long time, pistol and rifle. The only thing that I personally stay away from are any arms or blades for "home defense" that are to tactical looking, or sold with what a jury could see as being sold as strictly a home defense weapon (look at original post) skulls and a pistol grip. Don't get me wrong I have tactical weapons, if it goes to court do you want them to hold up the latest greatest weapon a civilian can buy or something a little less ominous...jury's are a sometimes a strange bunch. If you hit the intruder in the head with a bat, someone will think you should have just hit their arm. If you know what I mean. Stay safe anyway you can��
  • Tug Boat BobTug Boat Bob Posts: 2,568 Captain
    My personal home defense weapon loaded with 7+1 #4 Buckshot;

    Mossberg 500 12g Cruiser/Persuader Combo Package W/Pistol Grip & Full Stock


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    Stock: Pistol Grip, Black Synthetic Stock Included
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    Barrel Length: 20"
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  • mindyabinessmindyabiness Posts: 3,916 Captain
    Schmidty wrote: »
    ....why.........yes it did....:grin
    Thank you for not asking "How did you know that".
    Arguing with idiots is like playing chess with a pigeon... No matter how good you are, the bird is going to crap on the board and strut around like it won anyway.
  • cadmancadman Home of the Gators Posts: 24,403 AG
    Nick Nikon wrote: »
    Up until a few years ago, the only weapon that Mossberg marketed for "home defense" was a .410 pump action repeater, with a pistol grip on the pump. Things have changed ... unfortunately.

    I own a 12ga Mossberg pump with pistol grips that was marketed for "home defense" that I bought back in 1982. It had a 28" barrel and an 18.5" barrel. Regular stock and pistol grip was included. Would never be my choice for home defense.

    I bought it from the old Service Merchandise company when they were closing the Gainesville store. Paid $100 for the thing on clearance.

    Mini Mart Magnate

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