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  • Major WaderMajor Wader Posts: 641 Officer
    Never had a saltwater striped, but the freshwater ones are very good.

    Get all the red meat off when you filet, then cook any way you like other fish.
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  • SchmidtySchmidty Posts: 6,806 Admiral
    "Major Wader"

    If you ever get a chance...Go up to Martha's Vineyard in October and hang yourself some "big-un's" from the shore...

    Butter...salt.....pepper and a broiler....wow...
  • stc1993stc1993 Posts: 10,594 AG
    both are good if you're hungry.

    It's been my experience anything is good if your hungry enough.
  • stc1993stc1993 Posts: 10,594 AG
    An RC Cola and Moon Pie for breakfast is pretty good, especially if you have some good bacon to go with it!
    And dumping one of those small packs of Lance's peanuts in an RC or Coke is pretty good stuff, too.

    I never did like Moon pies, But an ice cold Coke with Lance's peanuts poured inside was good to me as a kid.
  • stc1993stc1993 Posts: 10,594 AG
    :funnypost :rotflmao
  • jcbcpajcbcpa Posts: 2,633 Captain
    We eat strippers and hybrid bass all the time out of Lake Eufala.
    Just filet, cut out the bloodline, cut into bite size chunks, marinate for about an hour in a mixture of hot sauce and lemon juice.
    Then salt generously, meal and fry.

    "Winners take responsibility, losers blame others"

    Megyn Kelly

  • FibberMckeeFibberMckee Posts: 12,826 AG
    "apparently you" don't understand even after it was "spelled out for you".
    Yes and yes, apparently you need it spelled out for you.

    The topic is 'Striped Bass'. These fish are virtually nonexistent above the Troy dam.

    C&R regs in areas where 'Striped Bass' don't exist aren't pertinent to this topic.

    The areas of the Hudson where "ocean fish coming into the river" are not C&R.
  • duckmanJRduckmanJR Posts: 21,265 AG
    Schmidty wrote: »
    "Major Wader"

    If you ever get a chance...Go up to Martha's Vineyard in October and hang yourself some "big-un's" from the shore...

    Butter...salt.....pepper and a broiler....wow...

    I doubt they are in the slot in NY state anymore...but...You can catch MONSTERS on the south shore of long Island.
    Most people do not know that Germany sunk a good amount of tonnage off our coast in WWII coming out of NY harbor or coming up the east coast to form up convoys. Wrecks will congregate those big fish. Some where pretty close in to shore.
    Back in the late 1960's early 1970's...My family caught a lot of those big girls on live Bunker ( menhaden.....Pogys )...or fresh dead.
    Honestly, a little embarrassed at the amount.... Dad would sell them to guys in the local bar...and it was always a hoot to hear the fish stories they would make up for their "big catch" :rolleyes
    Fish in the 20 - 45 lb range were pretty much the norm since it was a pretty large bait for a schoolie.
    We never ate big ones.... We would fish inshore with either skimmer clams (bellies) or at certain times they would only eat grass shrimp that we used trawl nets to get and catch the schoolies for the table.
    There are many roads to travel
    Many things to do.
    Knots to be unraveled
    'fore the darkness falls on you
  • FibberMckeeFibberMckee Posts: 12,826 AG
    "I doubt" that you've looked at NYS Striped Bass regs.
    duckmanJR wrote: »
    I doubt they are in the slot in NY state anymore...but...You can catch MONSTERS on the south shore of long Island.

    Hudson River has an 18"-28" slot size for Striped Bass, but also allows anglers to keep one over 40".

    Below George Washington Bridge marine regs allows anglers to keep 1 Striped Bass over 28" per day.

    http://www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/7894.htm

    You can catch MONSTERS on the North side of Long Island too.
  • Baits OutBaits Out Posts: 12,328 AG
    Schmidty wrote: »
    . . . . And as far as the bluefish goes.......well.......ya gotta bleed them and put them in an ice slurry...filet and cut out the brown meat....broil with salt-pepper and onion.....

    Can't remember ever saving a bluefish for the table.

    A southeast Florida laid back beach bum and volunteer bikini assessor who lives on island time. 
  • SchmidtySchmidty Posts: 6,806 Admiral
    Baits Out wrote: »
    Can't remember ever saving a bluefish for the table.

    A lot don't "Baits".....

    It could have something to do with the fact that the flesh is very delicate and don't react well to being crushed...(as in the bottom of a 55 gallon drum), not bled...(as is the case with all fish with a belt of brown meat).....or, not immediately refrigerated "being a soft, fine grain oil bearing meat).

    About the worst thing that a person can do with a bluefish is to wash the filets off with fresh water and then attempt to freeze them.....which is about the same with all saltwater fish. They will freezer burn in no time and not be fit for a cat.

    But cared for correctly......good eats!

    No fish is better smoked....
  • Baits OutBaits Out Posts: 12,328 AG
    Schmidty wrote: »
    A lot don't "Baits".....

    It could have something to do with the fact that the flesh is very delicate and don't react well to being crushed...(as in the bottom of a 55 gallon drum), not bled...(as is the case with all fish with a belt of brown meat).....or, not immediately refrigerated "being a soft, fine grain oil bearing meat).

    About the worst thing that a person can do with a bluefish is to wash the filets off with fresh water and then attempt to freeze them.....which is about the same with all saltwater fish. They will freezer burn in no time and not be fit for a cat.

    But cared for correctly......good eats!

    No fish is better smoked....

    Hmmmmmmmmmm?

    Never even brought them home for the two cats.

    Too many other better choices which they frequently received.

    The big tiger tom cat weighed almost 18 lbs . . . and was not fat!

    We occasionally roughhoused with him, and of course ended up with
    many scratches and a bloodied lower arm.

    The archetypical big tough cat, . . . but who could later purr
    up a storm when rubbed and petted.

    A southeast Florida laid back beach bum and volunteer bikini assessor who lives on island time. 
  • Pescatoral PursuitPescatoral Pursuit Posts: 5,065 Admiral
    stc1993 wrote: »
    I never did like Moon pies.

    You kiss your mother with that mouth?
  • duckmanJRduckmanJR Posts: 21,265 AG
    stc1993 wrote: »
    I never did like Moon pies, But an ice cold Coke with Lance's peanuts poured inside was good to me as a kid.

    When I was youmg I worked at a marina on Ft. Myers beach.... The head mechanic was an old southern GENTLEMAN who did that... He had a Coke with peanuts in it every day at 10 AM...you could set your watch by it.
    There are many roads to travel
    Many things to do.
    Knots to be unraveled
    'fore the darkness falls on you
  • Team SabatageTeam Sabatage Posts: 13,014 AG
    onthefifty wrote: »
    PCB count?
    Wrong part of the Hudson. The PCB part is upstream of the barrier dam at Troy, near Albany. The worst part of the PCB laden river bottom is in the Hudson Falls area where GE had their plant. They dumped tons of PCB's into the river. That is now being cleaned up with dredging of the river bottom and like most rivers, because of flow will self clean, eventually.
    Up until recently you were not even allowed to fish in the river, now you can fish, but C&R only.
    The striper part is below troy, they are ocean fish coming into the river.

    Lake Powell striper fishing is stupid at times. It's a boom/bust cycle depending on the health of the shad. When the shad are healthy the stripers are too and 100 fish days are not uncommon. As far as eating quality, again, not in months without an R. Cold water is best, but they are not as good as ocean stripers. For more information visit http://www.wayneswords.com/ A houseboat vacation in the spring on Powell can be the freshwater fishing trip of a lifetime.
    Well yes & no. This year is the last phase in dredging PCB, however PCB bio-accumulates & "because of flow will" be carried downstream in the species that consume it.



    But the Hudson River Striped bass, for the most part "are ocean fish coming into the river" to spawn & have not been eating a diet contaminated with PCB.

    Hudson River striped bass are safe to eat & definitely NOT "C&R only".
    Yes and yes, apparently you need it spelled out for you.
    The river from Troy Dam upstream to Hudson Falls is C&R only.

    From the NYS DEC fishing guidebook.

    Hudson River from Troy Dam upstream to Bakers Falls in the Village of Hudson Falls and tributaries in this section to first barrier impassable by fish, including Mohawk River below Route 32 bridge
    All Species All year
    Catch and release fishing only. All fish shall be returned to the water immediately. Baitfish listed on page 57 may be possessed for use as fish bait. Use of tip-ups is permitted.


    I am from Glens Falls, I am a NYS licensed guide and guided the Hudson River, I know what I am talking about.
    "apparently you" don't understand even after it was "spelled out for you".



    The topic is 'Striped Bass'. These fish are virtually nonexistent above the Troy dam.

    C&R regs in areas where 'Striped Bass' don't exist aren't pertinent to this topic.

    The areas of the Hudson where "ocean fish coming into the river" are not C&R.

    How about we meet there and I'll show you just how many striped bass there are above the dam.

    You from Argyle, Greenwich or Schaghticoke?
    Strap me in, tie me down and roll me a bone, I'm getting on an airplane and I'm flying home...
  • duckmanJRduckmanJR Posts: 21,265 AG
    How about we meet there and I'll show you just how many striped bass there are above the dam.

    You from Argyle, Greenwich or Schaghticoke?

    No...He is from Wiki...but spent time in Google.... :rotflmao
    There are many roads to travel
    Many things to do.
    Knots to be unraveled
    'fore the darkness falls on you
  • Team SabatageTeam Sabatage Posts: 13,014 AG
    duckmanJR wrote: »
    No...He is from Wiki...but spent time in Google.... :rotflmao

    :rotflmao
    Strap me in, tie me down and roll me a bone, I'm getting on an airplane and I'm flying home...
  • FibberMckeeFibberMckee Posts: 12,826 AG
    How many "are ocean fish coming into the river" that made it North beyond the "first barrier impassable by fish"?
    How about we meet there and I'll show you just how many striped bass there are above the dam.

    All the Striped Bass below "the dam" are fair game.

    Shame you guys speculate Wiki & Google, but can't recognize NYSDEC.
  • FibberMckeeFibberMckee Posts: 12,826 AG
    JB tries to telecommunicate from his doghouse...
    He telecommutes from his parent's spare room...

    But fails to address the topic.
  • onthefiftyonthefifty Posts: 4,094 Captain
    Wrong part of the Hudson. The PCB part is upstream of the barrier dam at Troy, near Albany. The worst part of the PCB laden river bottom is in the Hudson Falls area where GE had their plant. They dumped tons of PCB's into the river. That is now being cleaned up with dredging of the river bottom and like most rivers, because of flow will self clean, eventually.
    Up until recently you were not even allowed to fish in the river, now you can fish, but C&R only.
    The striper part is below troy, they are ocean fish coming into the river.

    Lake Powell striper fishing is stupid at times. It's a boom/bust cycle depending on the health of the shad. When the shad are healthy the stripers are too and 100 fish days are not uncommon. As far as eating quality, again, not in months without an R. Cold water is best, but they are not as good as ocean stripers. For more information visit http://www.wayneswords.com/ A houseboat vacation in the spring on Powell can be the freshwater fishing trip of a lifetime.

    Thanks for the clarification about the Hudson. Loved Powell, Dangling Rope was a cool stop. We did that in a 16' Baja with a 150, wish we would have had a houseboat! Snorkeled the coves in the cold water while it was +100 degrees. Great summer including 7/4. :cool:
  • Team SabatageTeam Sabatage Posts: 13,014 AG
    How many "are ocean fish coming into the river" that made it North beyond the "first barrier impassable by fish"?



    All the Striped Bass below "the dam" are fair game.

    Shame you guys speculate Wiki & Google, but can't recognize NYSDEC.

    :rotflmao

    :Google didn't tell you about the locks at the dam that make it part of the Champlain Barge Canal and the Mohawk Barge Canal?:banghead

    I've caught Shad/Stripers and even a crab as far up as lock 9 on the Mohawk and shad and stripers as far up as Rogers Island on the Hudson.

    Give it up, your in my backyard and your mother is calling you.:rotflmao
    Strap me in, tie me down and roll me a bone, I'm getting on an airplane and I'm flying home...
  • FibberMckeeFibberMckee Posts: 12,826 AG
    You posted about "the first barrier impassable by fish" now you seek to evade the Hudson between the Atlantic & Troy by citing "locks at the dam". What's next? You going to try to derail about Striped Bass in Lake Champlain?

    Give it up, your in my backyard and your mother is calling you.

    NYSDEC "is calling you" to say you can keep Striped Bass in the Tidal Hudson River.

    From "my backyard" I can hear the trains that run along the Hudson River & my mother died last year.
  • Wildcard2950Wildcard2950 Posts: 79 Deckhand
    My son and I are avid anglers in Massachusetts,New Hampshire. There isn't a slot limit in our area of fishing for Striped Bass, we are allowed to keep 1 greater than 28". As for Bluefish there are not any limits. We'd like to compare the 2 fish to Florida's Jack Crevalle and Snook, For the fight and for the flavor.

    Like any other fish 4 fish mention are above needed to be prepped and prepared correctly. Bluefish and the Jack are gamie and Striped Bass and Snook are mild tasting in my opinion.

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  • Pescatoral PursuitPescatoral Pursuit Posts: 5,065 Admiral
    Those are some hoss blues.


    Schmidty wrote: »
    A lot don't "Baits".....

    It could have something to do with the fact that the flesh is very delicate and don't react well to being crushed...(as in the bottom of a 55 gallon drum), not bled...(as is the case with all fish with a belt of brown meat).....or, not immediately refrigerated "being a soft, fine grain oil bearing meat).

    About the worst thing that a person can do with a bluefish is to wash the filets off with fresh water and then attempt to freeze them.....which is about the same with all saltwater fish. They will freezer burn in no time and not be fit for a cat.

    But cared for correctly......good eats!

    No fish is better smoked....

    It's been my experience that oily fish (Mackerel) respond real well to a 2 day bath in whole milk. Don't think I've tried it with blues.
  • Team SabatageTeam Sabatage Posts: 13,014 AG
    Those are some hoss blues.





    It's been my experience that oily fish (Mackerel) respond real well to a 2 day bath in whole milk. Don't think I've tried it with blues.

    That is a very accepted method of removing the gaminess of many fish and fowl. Change the milk after the first day.
    Strap me in, tie me down and roll me a bone, I'm getting on an airplane and I'm flying home...
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