Was up in NY this weekend, ate Striped Bass for the first time. Not impressed. Anyone else tried it and liked it?
Glad to be back in FL and [hopefully] fishing this weekend [for something tastier].
Southerners do not have a sophisticated palet.... Yankees are more refined in their epicurial tastes.....Have a RC cola and a moon pie and you'll feel as good as new.
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A salt run striper is a damned good tasting fish.....
Of course them farm raised ones.......raised in fresh water...ain't worth plating.
And as far as the bluefish goes.......well.......ya gotta bleed them and put them in an ice slurry...filet and cut out the brown meat....broil with salt-pepper and onion.....
Salt run Stripers are good.....not great and small Blues are good if you cut the bloodlines out......used to spend my summers as a kid in New Jersey at my grandparents house on the beach.
Salt run Stripers are good.....not great and small Blues are good if you cut the bloodlines out......used to spend my summers as a kid in New Jersey at my grandparents house on the beach.
As with most fish....the smaller fish are usually better. Unfortunately, with slot limits now....sometimes the better "eating" size fish are off the menu.
I used to love schoolie Stripers.... those 20-22 inch fish were VERY good.
My brother LOVES the 2-3 LB blues we get here in spring...but his care and cleaning is way way way beyond what most weekend hillbillys do.
He also has the self discipline to only catch a "fresh fish dinners" worth...again, something many just cannot do when they are in a school of fish.
There are many roads to travel
Many things to do.
Knots to be unraveled
'fore the darkness falls on you
Southerners do not have a sophisticated palet.... Yankees are more refined in their epicurial tastes.....Have a RC cola and a moon pie and you'll feel as good as new.
For breakfast and lunch!
Strap me in, tie me down and roll me a bone, I'm getting on an airplane and I'm flying home...
Stripers and blues from the NE can be good, or bad. Like oysters, don't eat them in a month that does not have an R in it. That is when they are most abundant, but the colder the water the better. Maine Bluefish and stripers are OK in the summer.
They must be cared for the instant they are hooked up. Those intended to be eaten must be yanked in as fast as possible, not fought so that the lactic acid does not build up in them. They must also have their throat slit and placed back in the water to "bleed out" as soon as they are landed. Then iced, really iced, gut them, cut away the brown flesh and submerge them in a cooler full of ice with salt in it.
As soon as possible fillet.
To prepare you can either bake them with some butter, onion, peppers and tomatoes over them or fry after dredging in milk, covering with flour, dipping in an egg wash and covering in herbed bread crumbs.
Seems like a lot of work, but so it is with fish that are just so-so to eat.
Next time your up north, stick with the lobsters, the ones that have claws.
Strap me in, tie me down and roll me a bone, I'm getting on an airplane and I'm flying home...
Stripers and blues from the NE can be good, or bad. Like oysters, don't eat them in a month that does not have an R in it. That is when they are most abundant, but the colder the water the better. Maine Bluefish and stripers are OK in the summer.
They must be cared for the instant they are hooked up. Those intended to be eaten must be yanked in as fast as possible, not fought so that the lactic acid does not build up in them. They must also have their throat slit and placed back in the water to "bleed out" as soon as they are landed. Then iced, really iced, gut them, cut away the brown flesh and submerge them in a cooler full of ice with salt in it.
As soon as possible fillet.
To prepare you can either bake them with some butter, onion, peppers and tomatoes over them or fry after dredging in milk, covering with flour, dipping in an egg wash and covering in herbed bread crumbs.
Seems like a lot of work, but so it is with fish that are just so-so to eat.
Next time your up north, stick with the lobsters, the ones that have claws.
*YOU*...are not the weekend hillbilly I was referencing....You understand how to properly preserve fresh fish.
There are many roads to travel
Many things to do.
Knots to be unraveled
'fore the darkness falls on you
Have always liked eating Striped bass & apparently am not alone. NY stopped commercial sales of Striped bass years ago in order to save them from overfishing.
Also liked fat Summer NE Bluefish, especially when smoked, even the livery tasting dark meat.
And this is why I started the thread: I was sure that a fish which is so popular has to be better than the limited sampling I got to do on this trip. If I ever get the chance to fish for them, I'd like to try it fresh and give Striped Bass another chance.
If I ever get the chance to fish for them, I'd like to try it fresh and give Striped Bass another chance.
We'd get them drift fishing at The Race between Plum & Fishers Islands, or at Orient Pt. Never caught a really big Striped bass, but plenty of 20 something size.
IMO Striped bass taste delicious, but of course I like to eat fish.
Last year there were reports of 50lb+ Stripers out of the Hudson River every week & one over 60 lb!
I only clicked on this thread cuz I thought it said Stripper ****, not striped bass...what a disappointment.
I read it anyways, your first problem is you ordered fish from a restaurant, and therefor was highly unlikely what I consider fresh and well cared for, so it probably tasted like stripper ****.
I only clicked on this thread cuz I thought it said Stripper ****, not striped bass...what a disappointment.
I read it anyways, your first problem is you ordered fish from a restaurant, and therefor was highly unlikely what I consider fresh and well cared for, so it probably tasted like stripper ****.
Worked in New Haven for nearly 14 years & did "get the chance to fish for them" regularly.
We'd get them drift fishing at The Race between Plum & Fishers Islands, or at Orient Pt. Never caught a really big Striped bass, but plenty of 20 something size.
IMO Striped bass taste delicious, but of course I like to eat fish.
Last year there were reports of 50lb+ Stripers out of the Hudson River every week & one over 60 lb!
Wrong part of the Hudson. The PCB part is upstream of the barrier dam at Troy, near Albany. The worst part of the PCB laden river bottom is in the Hudson Falls area where GE had their plant. They dumped tons of PCB's into the river. That is now being cleaned up with dredging of the river bottom and like most rivers, because of flow will self clean, eventually.
Up until recently you were not even allowed to fish in the river, now you can fish, but C&R only.
The striper part is below troy, they are ocean fish coming into the river.
Lake Powell striper fishing is stupid at times. It's a boom/bust cycle depending on the health of the shad. When the shad are healthy the stripers are too and 100 fish days are not uncommon. As far as eating quality, again, not in months without an R. Cold water is best, but they are not as good as ocean stripers. For more information visit http://www.wayneswords.com/ A houseboat vacation in the spring on Powell can be the freshwater fishing trip of a lifetime.
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Bluefish are not so bad, but they must be cooked the day before and eat the day after.
BTW I always release them, not so tasty and a gamefish here.
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Ate both when I lived in Maine. As Duckman mentioned, the schoolies were the best to eat. We would on occasion brine the Bluefish and Mackerel and then smoke them.
I loved fishing for sea run big Stripers. Live eels and lots of beverages while waiting on them to move into the Kennebunk and Androscoggin Rivers.
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they are perfect for dishes that require a delicate sauce
some oily fish have strong and somewhat disagreeable flavors
they require a preparation that uses smoke or very flavorful spices and herbs that either overpower or change those flavors
both are good if you're hungry
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Quote Originally Posted by duckmanJR
Southerners do not have a sophisticated palet.... Yankees are more refined in their epicurial tastes.....Have a RC cola and a moon pie and you'll feel as good as new.
I only clicked on this thread cuz I thought it said Stripper ****, not striped bass...what a disappointment.
I read it anyways, your first problem is you ordered fish from a restaurant, and therefor was highly unlikely what I consider fresh and well cared for, so it probably tasted like stripper ****.
Hope this helps.
:Spittingcoffee sorry to disappoint you!
Since posting this thread I have looked up a number of recipes that look better than what I had, so yes you're right on that.
Well yes & no. This year is the last phase in dredging PCB, however PCB bio-accumulates & "because of flow will" be carried downstream in the species that consume it.
Wrong part of the Hudson. The PCB part is upstream of the barrier dam at Troy, near Albany. The worst part of the PCB laden river bottom is in the Hudson Falls area where GE had their plant. They dumped tons of PCB's into the river. That is now being cleaned up with dredging of the river bottom and like most rivers, because of flow will self clean, eventually.
Up until recently you were not even allowed to fish in the river, now you can fish, but C&R only.
The striper part is below troy, they are ocean fish coming into the river.
But the Hudson River Striped bass, for the most part "are ocean fish coming into the river" to spawn & have not been eating a diet contaminated with PCB.
Hudson River striped bass are safe to eat & definitely NOT "C&R only".
Southerners do not have a sophisticated palet.... Yankees are more refined in their epicurial tastes.....Have a RC cola and a moon pie and you'll feel as good as new.
If you're going to call us unsophisticated, one would think you'd at least try to spell it right...
Wrong part of the Hudson. The PCB part is upstream of the barrier dam at Troy, near Albany. The worst part of the PCB laden river bottom is in the Hudson Falls area where GE had their plant. They dumped tons of PCB's into the river. That is now being cleaned up with dredging of the river bottom and like most rivers, because of flow will self clean, eventually.
Up until recently you were not even allowed to fish in the river, now you can fish, but C&R only. The striper part is below troy, they are ocean fish coming into the river.
Lake Powell striper fishing is stupid at times. It's a boom/bust cycle depending on the health of the shad. When the shad are healthy the stripers are too and 100 fish days are not uncommon. As far as eating quality, again, not in months without an R. Cold water is best, but they are not as good as ocean stripers. For more information visit http://www.wayneswords.com/ A houseboat vacation in the spring on Powell can be the freshwater fishing trip of a lifetime.
Well yes & no. This year is the last phase in dredging PCB, however PCB bio-accumulates & "because of flow will" be carried downstream in the species that consume it.
But the Hudson River Striped bass, for the most part "are ocean fish coming into the river" to spawn & have not been eating a diet contaminated with PCB.
Hudson River striped bass are safe to eat & definitely NOT "C&R only".
Yes and yes, apparently you need it spelled out for you.
The river from Troy Dam upstream to Hudson Falls is C&R only.
From the NYS DEC fishing guidebook.
Hudson River from Troy Dam upstream to Bakers Falls in the Village of Hudson Falls and tributaries in this section to first barrier impassable by fish, including Mohawk River below Route 32 bridge
All Species All year Catch and release fishing only. All fish shall be returned to the water immediately. Baitfish listed on page 57 may be possessed for use as fish bait. Use of tip-ups is permitted.
I am from Glens Falls, I am a NYS licensed guide and guided the Hudson River, I know what I am talking about.
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I've tried one of the small bluefish that sometimes swim down here in spring; it fought like a similarly sized mackerel and kinda tasted like one too.
Many things to do.
Knots to be unraveled
'fore the darkness falls on you
A salt run striper is a damned good tasting fish.....
Of course them farm raised ones.......raised in fresh water...ain't worth plating.
And as far as the bluefish goes.......well.......ya gotta bleed them and put them in an ice slurry...filet and cut out the brown meat....broil with salt-pepper and onion.....
As with most fish....the smaller fish are usually better. Unfortunately, with slot limits now....sometimes the better "eating" size fish are off the menu.
I used to love schoolie Stripers.... those 20-22 inch fish were VERY good.
My brother LOVES the 2-3 LB blues we get here in spring...but his care and cleaning is way way way beyond what most weekend hillbillys do.
He also has the self discipline to only catch a "fresh fish dinners" worth...again, something many just cannot do when they are in a school of fish.
Many things to do.
Knots to be unraveled
'fore the darkness falls on you
For breakfast and lunch!
They must be cared for the instant they are hooked up. Those intended to be eaten must be yanked in as fast as possible, not fought so that the lactic acid does not build up in them. They must also have their throat slit and placed back in the water to "bleed out" as soon as they are landed. Then iced, really iced, gut them, cut away the brown flesh and submerge them in a cooler full of ice with salt in it.
As soon as possible fillet.
To prepare you can either bake them with some butter, onion, peppers and tomatoes over them or fry after dredging in milk, covering with flour, dipping in an egg wash and covering in herbed bread crumbs.
Seems like a lot of work, but so it is with fish that are just so-so to eat.
Next time your up north, stick with the lobsters, the ones that have claws.
Don't forget to put some peanuts in your lunch RC Cola..... :wink
Many things to do.
Knots to be unraveled
'fore the darkness falls on you
*YOU*...are not the weekend hillbilly I was referencing....You understand how to properly preserve fresh fish.
Many things to do.
Knots to be unraveled
'fore the darkness falls on you
Also liked fat Summer NE Bluefish, especially when smoked, even the livery tasting dark meat.
:grin
We'd get them drift fishing at The Race between Plum & Fishers Islands, or at Orient Pt. Never caught a really big Striped bass, but plenty of 20 something size.
IMO Striped bass taste delicious, but of course I like to eat fish.
Last year there were reports of 50lb+ Stripers out of the Hudson River every week & one over 60 lb!
I read it anyways, your first problem is you ordered fish from a restaurant, and therefor was highly unlikely what I consider fresh and well cared for, so it probably tasted like stripper ****.
Hope this helps.
Thanks for your input
PCB count?
Wrong part of the Hudson. The PCB part is upstream of the barrier dam at Troy, near Albany. The worst part of the PCB laden river bottom is in the Hudson Falls area where GE had their plant. They dumped tons of PCB's into the river. That is now being cleaned up with dredging of the river bottom and like most rivers, because of flow will self clean, eventually.
Up until recently you were not even allowed to fish in the river, now you can fish, but C&R only.
The striper part is below troy, they are ocean fish coming into the river.
Lake Powell striper fishing is stupid at times. It's a boom/bust cycle depending on the health of the shad. When the shad are healthy the stripers are too and 100 fish days are not uncommon. As far as eating quality, again, not in months without an R. Cold water is best, but they are not as good as ocean stripers. For more information visit http://www.wayneswords.com/ A houseboat vacation in the spring on Powell can be the freshwater fishing trip of a lifetime.
BTW I always release them, not so tasty and a gamefish here.
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I loved fishing for sea run big Stripers. Live eels and lots of beverages while waiting on them to move into the Kennebunk and Androscoggin Rivers.
some fish do not have strong flavors
they are perfect for dishes that require a delicate sauce
some oily fish have strong and somewhat disagreeable flavors
they require a preparation that uses smoke or very flavorful spices and herbs that either overpower or change those flavors
both are good if you're hungry
Southerners do not have a sophisticated palet.... Yankees are more refined in their epicurial tastes.....Have a RC cola and a moon pie and you'll feel as good as new.
An RC Cola and Moon Pie for breakfast is pretty good, especially if you have some good bacon to go with it!
And dumping one of those small packs of Lance's peanuts in an RC or Coke is pretty good stuff, too.:dance
Since posting this thread I have looked up a number of recipes that look better than what I had, so yes you're right on that.
But the Hudson River Striped bass, for the most part "are ocean fish coming into the river" to spawn & have not been eating a diet contaminated with PCB.
Hudson River striped bass are safe to eat & definitely NOT "C&R only".
If you're going to call us unsophisticated, one would think you'd at least try to spell it right...
"Palate"
Yes and yes, apparently you need it spelled out for you.
The river from Troy Dam upstream to Hudson Falls is C&R only.
From the NYS DEC fishing guidebook.
Hudson River from Troy Dam upstream to Bakers Falls in the Village of Hudson Falls and tributaries in this section to first barrier impassable by fish, including Mohawk River below Route 32 bridge
All Species All year
Catch and release fishing only. All fish shall be returned to the water immediately. Baitfish listed on page 57 may be possessed for use as fish bait. Use of tip-ups is permitted.
I am from Glens Falls, I am a NYS licensed guide and guided the Hudson River, I know what I am talking about.
good stuff....and I hated blue fish before I ate his dish...
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