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screamin seamanscreamin seaman Posts: 1,492 Officer
My compressor took a **** today. I called my cousin to come check things out. Tried a new capacitor and a kickstart/hard start kit to no avail. Ohm'd out the compressor and have an open circuit.

The unit is a 2004 3.5 ton Goodman, gas heat. I don't feel that it is worth dumping a bunch of money into a unit that costs me $250+ a summer month to maintain 79 degrees.
The install was ****tily done! I will need a new stand and duct work, along with a couple new ceiling returns (it only has one 12x24" low wall return that sucks the filter in now).

There are two local companies that have been in business for 30+ years who I personally know the owners. One is a Daikin, Tempstar, Honeywell dealer and the other is a Trane dealer. Both have excellent ratings on Angies List and I haven't heard anything bad about them.

My cousin (who is a drunk and I only trust his work about 65%) is trying to talk me into buying a unit online and having him install it. He has worked for both the above companies, along with almost every other one in town and it's always 'someone else's fault' of why he has a new job every other month. So I'm thinking of not having him do the install, as well as I'm curious how he would get the units warrantee paperwork taken care of.

What opinions or suggestions do ya'll have on brands or companies to do the work?

Melbourne area. House is 1400 sq/ft, block construction, in desperate need of new insulation in the attic.
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  • screamin seamanscreamin seaman Posts: 1,492 Officer
    FPL is coming out next week to do an "attic insulation review." Hoping to get a $$$ rebate from it.
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  • AC ManAC Man Posts: 7,311 Admiral
    Short and sweet. Buying a unit on line installed by a non licensed contractor voids all warranties. Second, get a second opinion. 99% of all open windings are off on internal overload and will reset in a couple hours. Turn it off all night,
    get a second opinion. Most companies offer it for free.
  • tarpon140tarpon140 Posts: 23 Deckhand
    Also have a Manual J load calculation done, 3.5 tons for 1400 sqft sounds to big for a block home. Unless you have no stucco/siding.
  • Finger MulletFinger Mullet Posts: 3,852 Officer
    I have a 2.5 ton Rheem unit with a Seer of 19 or higher, don't remember but I went with the biggest Obama rebate percentage. Just over 12OO sqft, but newer well insulated construction with double pane windows with a UV tint of some sort. Rarely have I seen an electric bill above $80/mo, usually 60-70.

    Oh, since doing new ducting, I was remodeling when I purchased mine and ditched existing ducting and installed an art deco look with visible/exposed ducting, kinda cool and price was good. Oh real easy to do fpl leak tests and such for more rebates. Also exposed ducting is way more efficient.

    Do as posted above with calculations, and use a contractor.


    EDIT: Consider ditching the heat option. I did, a radiator space heater is fine for the 2 or 3 days a year you need it in Florida, albeit I am in Palm Beach, it does get a bit more chilly in Melbourne thou.
  • PolarPolar Posts: 22,492 AG
    One is a Daikin, Tempstar, Honeywell dealer and the other is a Trane dealer.

    Youre better off sticking with RUUD with them choices
  • coldaircoldair Posts: 11,490 AG
    Polar wrote: »
    One is a Daikin, Tempstar, Honeywell dealer and the other is a Trane dealer.

    Youre better off sticking with RUUD with them choices

    he is right of course, best leakers on the market
    169304.GIF
  • PolarPolar Posts: 22,492 AG
    Far less issues that the Trane/ American Standard crap now adays, oh and they have parts available! Not like installing a 2 stage vs Trane to find out the compressor is factory order 5 to 7 out on a brand new unit!
  • screamin seamanscreamin seaman Posts: 1,492 Officer
    Why is it 9 out of 10 contractors all have different oppinions on brands?

    Seems like everyone I know have Trane and love them...
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  • Soda PopinskiSoda Popinski Posts: 16,704 AG
    My father in law swears by tranes, and even installed one in our last house. It kept leaking freon and he would have to come charge it every 6-8 months. One of the good points about them is they are enclosed, so if it does hail, the coils don't get pelted but honestly that hasn't happened in a long long time. Honestly I think the quality of all the newer units is about the same. 6/10 and with any new unit you got a 50/50 chance it's going to be garbage. Cross your fingers and make sure anything you pay for has a warranty.

    And don't let a relative do it.
    You can't pet a dead dog back to life 
  • rock_fishrock_fish Posts: 12,224 AG
    Why is it 9 out of 10 contractors all have different oppinions on brands?

    Seems like everyone I know have Trane and love them...

    Most contractors are a shady bunch. Especially the ones from SE Florida aka.southern new yawk

    :)
    Proud supporter of the anti fishing, terroristic (lol what?) movement known as Greenpeace.
  • PolarPolar Posts: 22,492 AG
    buncha thieves!
  • Finger MulletFinger Mullet Posts: 3,852 Officer
    I think some get bigger kickbacks for selling a certain brand. Just like a car salesman. :grin
  • PolarPolar Posts: 22,492 AG
    You welcome us in your homes, and next thing you know, youre out 5 grand
  • Finger MulletFinger Mullet Posts: 3,852 Officer
    It was about that, but the art deco exposed ducting is way cool. I get lots of compliments on it. The SEER 19 electric bill ALMOST makes it worth while.

    Edit: Well before that awesome 2010 Obama tax rebate, kinda felt bad not voting for him. Also got big credits for all the energy star appliances I purchased, even thou I was going to buy them anyway. It was the first year, I EVER got a check from IRS, since graduating college.
  • Tarpon65Tarpon65 Posts: 7,243 Admiral
    Polar wrote: »
    You welcome us in your homes, and next thing you know, youre out 5 grand

    You remind me of my mail order Russian wife.
    Always Do Sober What You Said You'd Do Drunk. That Will Teach You To Keep Your Mouth Shut. - Ernest Hemingway
  • jcbcpajcbcpa Posts: 2,643 Captain
    Why is it 9 out of 10 contractors all have different oppinions on brands?

    Seems like everyone I know have Trane and love them...

    http://forums.floridasportsman.com/showthread.php?189959-Another-A-C-question&highlight=Cooling

    "Winners take responsibility, losers blame others"

    Megyn Kelly

  • screamin seamanscreamin seaman Posts: 1,492 Officer
    jcbcpa wrote: »

    Tried searching but didn't come up with anything good. Thanks.


    Was a measily broken wire at the connector on the compressor.
    Cousin is fired. Old roommate is hired (from one of the mentioned companies).
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  • MadScientistMadScientist Posts: 3,402 Captain
    Goodman is junk.

    For future reference, my Goodman compressor sounded like a truck backfire when it bought the farm.
  • King_MeKing_Me Posts: 7,096 Admiral
    My cousin (who is a drunk and I only trust his work about 65%) is trying to talk me into buying a unit online and having him install it. He has worked for both the above companies, along with almost every other one in town and it's always 'someone else's fault' of why he has a new job every other month. So I'm thinking of not having him do the install, as well as I'm curious how he would get the units warrantee paperwork taken care of.

    Do not do this, had a friend just last month that had a friend do a "side job" installing a brand new system. 4 weeks later the system froze up, friend was out of town so a professional service came out to fix the "leak", not just a leak but a part from the no-name air-handler failed. Service call alone was $250 and still no solution. The "friend" didn't even install a filter. Live and learn!

    BTW, the "Friend" price for equipment and labor was $1900, it will probably go into the 4K range now.
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